International Trump: US control of Greenland is absolute nescessity

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Yes. It is good to buy land which has natural resources. If a country doesn’t have the infrastructure to extract them, it would make sense to either partner with or sell to an entity that does.

I agree it is wrong to alienate allies. I’ve said as much ITT re: foreign aide. I do not disdain NATO. I would like all countries to meet the agreed upon 2% of GDP spending. I agree with Trump when he shined light on this. Do you think that was a bad thing? I was never pro-Trump and didn’t vote for him.

You may continue to claim otherwise, but it’s not the truth.

Ukraine begging has nothing to do with our national security. I don’t support them and don’t think we should be in a perpetual arrangement for their defense.

I don’t think Russia or China would attack a NATO country but I don’t believe ceding artic defense to the Danes is a prudent strategy for the United States.



I never said he would.

I’m not.

And this is what I’m arguing for.

I think you are MAGA type isolationist living in dreams.

For example in dreams that U.S is world hegemon today. It isn't and Russia too will not be.

To regain at least financial hegemony U.S might have hope only if they will negotiate with EU& EEZ plus U.K.
Not alone to talk about military hegemony dreams ruled by U.S POTUS administration, regardless reps or dems...it is total dreams and Reagan might just to cry and roll in coffin if he had to see today's idiots....
 
I don’t want to support Ukraine. We should we actively ending the war in Ukraine. We should be actively securing the Arctic. These opinions are not contradictory.
Piss na h u *j . You long ago had allowed invasion with clear signs only idiots can't see and Kissinger was correct that more fatal is to have U.S as friends rather than enemy.
Please stop dream that european taxpayers will continue to pay for next contracts about overpriced and overrated U.S weapons....NO.
It is done deal. Especially because both reps and dems does support russia in reality and are selling overpriced stuff with delays....Jesus....U.S can't voke up..
 
Defending a corrupt country like Ukraine is not the same as wanting to defend your own national territory. Surely you see this?
Standing together with the developed world against conquest of sovereign nations is actually one of the most important things we can do for our own long-term security. We don't want this century to look like the last, and we shouldn't assume that there's no possibility of it. It looks remote because developed countries have acted to make it remote, and Russia and China (and Trump) are pushing against the supports we have in place for that end.

Generally, the right in America abandoning little-c conservatism is an underrated problem, and related to irrational doomerism.
Not on the level of the US. Trade agreements may solve this.
What specific changes to existing deals do you support?
I don’t think we should support Ukraine and I think Russia is a far lesser threat than China overall. I don’t think we should take over the canal and this was the shitposting I mentioned I’m trying to avoid.
Cool on that last point. Russia and China are part of the same threat. Strengthening one strengthens the other because they are allied.
 
Trump has deranged these guys into actively denying reality and common sense.
I will be happy to see MAGA dreamers reaction if Trump advised tariffs for import from Canada will get implemented in reality.
Canada is more important supplier for U.S than Russia ....while Canada might export to other countries as well, exception might be electricity supplies for at least 1 500 000 households in MAGA U.S heaven. Nothing wrong ofc. MAGA is like Russia dream.
 
Even reps had settled to start negotiantions team build up in order to prevent huge trade war vs U.S best and most trustable strategic partner in Canada during 130 years.
Ofc Pump will not care about inflation like he had almost 0 sense in his previous 4 years term of tenure. Cycle will repeat again. With next promises...
 
Greenland is not US territory though.
The artic is strategically important to the defense of the US mainland. Greenland is important to that strategy.
Denmark joining NATO was your idea now? That's rich
I’ve stopped shitposting. You shouldn’t start.
Purchasing the land is a silly idea, big use of public funds for dubious benefit. Lowering trade barriers would make far more sense but populists hate that idea.
I don’t hate that idea. I’m not necessarily a populist, but I don’t hate the idea.
I thought you said Russia was not a concern though? They're not going to attack a NATO country right? And since Greenland is part of NATO via Denmark there's nothing to worry about. Are you worried about China attacking Greenland?
They aren’t a concern re: Ukraine. I’ve not once said the concern is Russia attacking Greenland. Can you please stop trying to frame my argument that way?
I think you are MAGA type isolationist living in dreams.

For example in dreams that U.S is world hegemon today. It isn't and Russia too will not be.

To regain at least financial hegemony U.S might have hope only if they will negotiate with EU& EEZ plus U.K.
Not alone to talk about military hegemony dreams ruled by U.S POTUS administration, regardless reps or dems...it is total dreams and Reagan might just to cry and roll in coffin if he had to see today's idiots....
Considering I didn’t vote for Trump, I doubt I’m a MAGA type.
So do you consider Russia a threat to the US yes or no?
The are an adversary who, along with China, are threatening the Artic. We should halt this with our own advancement in the space.
You long ago had allowed invasion with clear signs only idiots can't see and Kissinger was correct that more fatal is to have U.S as friends rather than enemy.
Please stop dream that european taxpayers will continue to pay for next contracts about overpriced and overrated U.S weapons....NO.
It is done deal. Especially because both reps and dems does support russia in reality and are selling overpriced stuff with delays....Jesus....U.S can't voke up..
I don’t even know what you’re saying here.
Standing together with the developed world against conquest of sovereign nations is actually one of the most important things we can do for our own long-term security. We don't want this century to look like the last, and we shouldn't assume that there's no possibility of it. It looks remote because developed countries have acted to make it remote, and Russia and China (and Trump) are pushing against the supports we have in place for that end.

Generally, the right in America abandoning little-c conservatism is an underrated problem, and related to irrational doomerism.
Like.
What specific changes to existing deals do you support?
Whichever would allow us mineral rights greater military presence.
Cool on that last point. Russia and China are part of the same threat. Strengthening one strengthens the other because they are allied.
A fair argument.
You cooked yourself. This is where you sit in the corner
Clearly not.
 
The artic is strategically important to the defense of the US mainland. Greenland is important to that strategy.
Thankfully Denmark and Greenland are part of NATO already.
I don’t hate that idea. I’m not necessarily a populist, but I don’t hate the idea.
Its not like its my idea or anything, this is just standard foreign policy before Trump. The American Ambassador to Denmark James P. Cain way back in 2007 was suggesting pursuing closer relations with Greenland in case it decides to go independent from Denmark which became a possibility in 2009. We didn't need smooth-brain populists to talk about buying Greenland to consider its strategic importance.
They aren’t a concern re: Ukraine. I’ve not once said the concern is Russia attacking Greenland. Can you please stop trying to frame my argument that way?
Russia is not a concern in Ukraine? The country its actively invading that borders our NATO allies? But we need Greenland to contain Russia instead of using Ukraine to contain Russia?

Nonsensical take IMO.
I wasn't talking to you.
Not to me but seemingly about me and the others dogpiling Rob for his dumb take right now.

If I'm mistaken then who were you referring to with those posts?
 
The artic is strategically important to the defense of the US mainland. Greenland is important to that strategy.

I’ve stopped shitposting. You shouldn’t start.

I don’t hate that idea. I’m not necessarily a populist, but I don’t hate the idea.

They aren’t a concern re: Ukraine. I’ve not once said the concern is Russia attacking Greenland. Can you please stop trying to frame my argument that way?

Considering I didn’t vote for Trump, I doubt I’m a MAGA type.

The are an adversary who, along with China, are threatening the Artic. We should halt this with our own advancement in the space.

I don’t even know what you’re saying here.

Like.

Whichever would allow us mineral rights greater military presence.

A fair argument.

Clearly not.
I do know that you don't think at all in reality.
You are thinking that you do know better about life reality.
OK, nothing wrong here. No one is ideal.

Russia today is China's vassal de facto with allies in Iran, Belarus and North Korea.
Nothing wrong from brutal short term business sense ofc might be to sell Ukraine to Russia and dream about happy life. 1938 th repeat.
Country is entity created in order to provide elite with income.
Marx.
There are 2 nationalities and 2 " countries " : working class and oppressors class.
Lenin.
These guys appeared were correct.

Idea should make crowd to trust.
Mussolini. 1930 th.
 
My favorite thing about when Trump says something so moronic and assine, is how the dumbest people on the forum like @cottagecheesefan try to man-splain it like it's 4d chess using straight plagiarized talking points from social media.

Its like the kid in the LD class lecturing the entire gifted advanced honors class on the benefits of eating paste and huffing paint.

😂 fucking spot on, well put sir!
 
Thankfully Denmark and Greenland are part of NATO already.
I’m not sure if you’re being purposefully dense here.
Russia is not a concern in Ukraine? The country its actively invading that borders our NATO allies? But we need Greenland to contain Russia instead of using Ukraine to contain Russia?

Nonsensical take IMO.
US mainland is my concern. I’ve mentioned this many times.
 
Not to me but seemingly about me and the others dogpiling Rob for his dumb take right now.

If I'm mistaken then who were you referring to with those posts?
You seem way angrier than normal. I hope everything is okay.
 
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