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Crime Trump-Ukraine Megathread v4

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....polls? Hahahahaha thanks for the laugh brother


Listen, Trump wanted this, impeachment calls will work perfectly for his 2020 run. David Lo Pan...I mean pelosi now has the ball in its court, if she doesn’t go through with it (which is looking less and less likely everyday) the fresh faces of the left are going to crucify her. You didn’t think Trump shit posted and got in the middle of their car fight months ago for no reason did you. You guys are entirely too gullible if you think Trump tweets and him saying dumb shit is for nothing. At this level in the game nothing is done without a purpose

Pro tip: don’t believe polls. People vote in the booth. If this clown show continues Trump is going to landslide and I already thought he would win before this started....

I’m not talking about media driven polls, I’m talking about the polls trump’s campaign pays to conduct. No spin, his people can’t get a plurality to take him over the prospective opposition. That’s his real problem, he was more popular in key states in 2016, and less popular overall. Surviving the investigation without being removed from office is only part of it, he’s got to get more popular in swing states, and every time he’s on tv complaining about shit, he’s losing ground.
 
Imagine caring about checking presidential power because trump won't be president forever...

After a 2 year carte blanche investigation, the Dems are throwing anything they can because they can’t beat Trump in the general and the fact is they could, but they keep saying hold my beer. First Russia, now Ukraine...who’s next? It won’t end until 2024
 
"Republican lawmakers said that Mr. Volker’s testimony, taken behind closed doors on Thursday by House investigators, did not support the interpretation of Mr. Trump’s actions advanced by Democrats like Representative Adam B. Schiff of California, chairman of the House Intelligence Committee.

“The facts we learned today undercut the salacious narrative that Adam Schiff is using to sell his impeachment ambitions,” Representatives Jim Jordan of Ohio and Devin Nunes of California, the ranking Republican members on two of the committees, wrote in a letter. “We hope the American people get to read the transcript of today’s testimony and see the truth.”

Mr. Volker, a former ambassador to NATO who served unpaid and part-time as Ukraine special envoy before abruptly resigning last week, was not a hostile witness who went into the testimony intending to make accusations against the president. Instead, he told investigators that he was devoted to helping Ukraine resolve its grinding five-year-old conflict with Russian-armed separatists and tried to satisfy the president’s suspicions about Ukraine but was never fully kept in the loop."

Keep digging that hole boys.
 
"Republican lawmakers said that Mr. Volker’s testimony, taken behind closed doors on Thursday by House investigators, did not support the interpretation of Mr. Trump’s actions advanced by Democrats like Representative Adam B. Schiff of California, chairman of the House Intelligence Committee.

“The facts we learned today undercut the salacious narrative that Adam Schiff is using to sell his impeachment ambitions,” Representatives Jim Jordan of Ohio and Devin Nunes of California, the ranking Republican members on two of the committees, wrote in a letter. “We hope the American people get to read the transcript of today’s testimony and see the truth.”

Mr. Volker, a former ambassador to NATO who served unpaid and part-time as Ukraine special envoy before abruptly resigning last week, was not a hostile witness who went into the testimony intending to make accusations against the president. Instead, he told investigators that he was devoted to helping Ukraine resolve its grinding five-year-old conflict with Russian-armed separatists and tried to satisfy the president’s suspicions about Ukraine but was never fully kept in the loop."

Keep digging that hole boys.

lol Russian bot confirmed
 
Rush it to a vote? The dems started a fucking inquiry before getting any facts. Before adam Schiff or his people met with the whistleblower...i mean after they secretly met with the whistleblower

Schiff did get a heads-up on a whistleblower’s allegations about President Trump’s phone call with Ukraine’s President before a complaint was filed. The whistleblower first had a colleague contact the agency’s top lawyer with his worries. Concerned with how his claims were being handled in the CIA, the whistleblower approached an aide of Schiff’s. The House aide, following the panel’s procedures, then suggested the whistleblower find a lawyer to advise him on how to file a complaint. The aide shared some of what the whistleblower knew with Schiff but did not identify him. Like other whistleblowers have done before and since under Republican- and Democratic-controlled committees, the whistleblower contacted the committee for guidance on how to report possible wrongdoing within the jurisdiction of the intelligence community.

So yes, Schiff did know some facts before the report was released, however he did not meet with him/her or influence the report, instead advised the whistleblower to file a complaint and referred him to the proper channels to do so. This is not unusual. This is more right wing muddying of the waters with little understanding of how things actually work and promoting conspiracy theories.
 
Schiff did get a heads-up on a whistleblower’s allegations about President Trump’s phone call with Ukraine’s President before a complaint was filed. The whistleblower first had a colleague contact the agency’s top lawyer with his worries. Concerned with how his claims were being handled in the CIA, the whistleblower approached an aide of Schiff’s. The House aide, following the panel’s procedures, then suggested the whistleblower find a lawyer to advise him on how to file a complaint. The aide shared some of what the whistleblower knew with Schiff but did not identify him. Like other whistleblowers have done before and since under Republican- and Democratic-controlled committees, the whistleblower contacted the committee for guidance on how to report possible wrongdoing within the jurisdiction of the intelligence community.

So yes, Schiff did know some facts before the report was released, however he did not meet with him/her or influence the report, instead advised the whistleblower to file a complaint and referred him to the proper channels to do so. This is not unusual. This is more right wing muddying of the waters with little understanding of how things actually work and promoting conspiracy theories.
Then why deny it twice?
 
Then why deny it twice?

He denied speaking to the whistleblower directly, which he didn’t. You’re pushing the narrative that he influenced the complaint, but it’s just not true.

But, it really doesn’t matter. Trump confirmed the veracity of it himself, releasing a “transcript” confirming the contents of the complaints and then went in tv and boldly did exactly what he was accused of on live tv. The Schiff, Biden, and Hillary talk is all whataboutism from the right to muddy the waters and distract from the real story, which is the POTUS leveraging military aid to a foreign government in exchange for reopening an investigation into a political opponent. Why don’t republicans want to talk about that?

Boy, I need to get out of this forum. So much misinformation and conspiracy theories. Peace out ya’ll.
 
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nope....only children change their position based on who is in office. Oh and of course...politicians.

Speaking of childish politicians changing positions...


https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna684946

Call it the post-platform era: The president-elect ran and won a campaign in which he took 141 policy positions on 23 issues over the course of 510 days. Trump defended this as being "flexible" and unpredictable, something he argued would make him a better leader.
 
Truly proud days


Trumpers find ignorance as a positive in their favor

also Incompetent Don was asked, have you asked any countries to investigate anything that doesn’t involve a political rival and Don answered, “we’ll have to look into that” lol

you don’t know incompetent Don?
 
What, the president begging for foreign help to stay in power?
Yup.

He's a fucking traitor and an honorary citizen of several countries that aren't the USA.

We literally have Obama and Biden doing the same in some capacity on a hot mike and on camera. No one gave a fuck because it wants orange man. Trump didn’t even have to release anything...I mean if we’re speaking truthfully here this has been the most interesting and politically entertaining presidents ever. I knew the basics about our government, but now I know a lot more than I care to

A fucking traitor huh? Ok...
 
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