Crime Trump to send the U.S. army into Portland, Oregon

[Stoic1]

That was Seattle and still don’t know how that mayor wasn’t thrown into jail for openly supporting that.People lost their businesses and a kid died.

I thought that was Portland?

Eta, I am wrong.

 

[Crazy Source]

Never said it was hell on earth. The drugs and homeless problems are really bad. What I maintained about the antifa issues that they have been allowed to operate unchecked since 2016 with 2020 being a daily destructive force. Since 2016, they have harassed, intimidated, threatened, and attacked people with different political beliefs and continue to do so. I am not in favor of military intervention at any level, but I do think that since local ppb and prospect are not handling the issue because of ineptitude or politics, maybe a federal task force should be considered.

And I don’t care if I lost you or not. I am not supporting ice and never have except to deport the violent illegals and those that continuously break the laws. So take your “bootlicker” comment and stick the boot up your ass sideways

You are in lockstep with ICE setting up shop in Portland with the Nat'l Guard protecting them for a manufactured crisis. It's 100% authoritarian bullshit and you are supporting it.

 

[nhbbear]

You are in lockstep with ICE setting up shop in Portland with the Nat'l Guard protecting them for a manufactured crisis. It's 100% authoritarian bullshit and you are supporting it.

The fuck I am you twat. I have said since the very beginning that I am against the military or national guard being deployed in American cities with exception of 2020, so stop fucking lying.

 

[Crazy Source]

The fuck I am you twat. I have said since the very beginning that I am against the military or national guard being deployed in American cities with exception of 2020, so stop fucking lying.

So you are in support of sending the Natty Guard back home away from Portland.

 

[DoctorTaco]

Let's take a trip back in time to 2020...

Remember CHAZ?

Portland's pride and joy!

Until police finally had enough of the violent assaults, shootings, sexual assaults, arson, etc.

Wrong city lol

 

[DoctorTaco]

How to find them? A search might be a start. I don’t follow any conservative anything on twitter but since I have watched the videos when they pop up, they continue to pop up, so I watch them. I have seen at least several videos pop up every day since this started. Again, these incidents are not all worthy of police reports but include threats of violence and telling people to leave or they’re going to get fucked up sort of stuff. People get surrounded and harassed. And I don’t know why no one is strapped but my guess would be that they would likely be charged with a crime if they retaliate in any way. And it irritates the shit out of me that it is always people that can’t fight back being bullied and threatened by these pussies. It’s embarrassing

I’ve tried searching every combination of “antifa/assault/portland/attack/2025 and I’m not coming up with hundreds and hundreds of unique videos for different attacks. Twitter, YouTube, Google, the numbers just aren’t there.

 

[DoctorTaco]

That was Seattle and still don’t know how that mayor wasn’t thrown into jail for openly supporting that.People lost their businesses and a kid died.

Total failure of government. Despite what the ignorant leftists and commies will tell you in this forum, government exists to protect private and public property.

I thought that was Portland?

Eta, I am wrong.

That was bullshit and the city should have stopped it immediately.

 

[ShadowRun]

That was bullshit and the city should have stopped it immediately.

I remember when this happened, did you vote for him or liked him ?

He reminds me of Canadian JT .... but less organic

 

[Cajun]

I remember when this happened, did you vote for him or liked him ?

He reminds me of Canadian JT .... but less organic

Eesh... looks pleasant. Bet he realized that wasn't a good idea.

 

[Cajun]

Well, Chicago now is popping off. But I am against sending in troops into American cities. 2020 should have had national guard deployed in several cities, it they didn’t then so I don’t know why they would now for a legitimate reason. There was an attack on ice officers in Colorado as well, but I haven’t been following this too closely-only pay attention to Portland antifa because they have been largely unbothered by law enforcement despite all the damage they did:

I think it will come down to enforcement of federal law without local protections or support. I've seen it mentioned maybe not in here about a lot of the Civil Rights integration where the local government was resistant so troops were sent to enforce integration in public schools. There is no constitutionality with sanctuary cities where it comes in contact with federal law. I don't know what the solution is but obviously ice agents have to have some local law enforcement protection

 

[Jack Reacheround]

I just mentioned a dude who wrote a near 1200 page book about Stalin and Hitler's relationship who knows more about socialism than you and i combined in 3 lifetimes. In the post you’re quoting. He’s even said Stalin wss far more brutal than Hitler on a personal level.

I’ve also posted things “from the internet” in this thread that mention the Nazi government was run essentially as a socialist government.

Fascism is NOT the opposite of socialism. Most successful fascists run communist/socialist governments and every successful socialist who lasts has been a fascist. There is a reason Mussolini was a socialist before he was a fascist. As are most fascists. They just don’t window-dress communism and see it as a “left-right” spectrum. Chairman Ping is a fascist. He runs the largest communist party in the history of the world.

Life is not a Marvel Movie. Left =\= we care about people and right =\= we want a genocide. There have been more genocides by overtly “communist” dictatorships than one can fathom and you would label a dictator as “far right” in your stupid little binary.

These terms and qualifications you use do not help anyone wrap their heads around what totalitarian power truly is. There were dictators before Communism and “Fascists” came after. If you think you could qualify any leader prior to 1920 within these terms, you are poorly mistaken and human beings, human nature, has not changed an iota. Abraham Lincoln was supremely totalitarian by today’s standards; he was a good man. To say Hitler and Stalin, two supremely evil men, were on some opposite binary to one another because one window-dressed his fascism and the other window-dressed his socialism is lazy, stupid and does further any truth being revealed.

What they both were was totalitarian, and both used the state, its resources, its people, its land, its product to funnel solely into their specific geopolitical, moral and personal goals. What does that sound like?
The only difference between Hitler and Lenin was who they included in their net of worth; one killed Jews the other killed Kulaks.
All of these arguments sympathetic to communism ignore COMMUNISM IN PRACTICE: it is brutal, it is fascistic, it is evil and it is inevitably murderous.

The Nazi Regime demands our farmers produce steel. If I do not, the state will enforce their decision with violence.
The Soviet Regime demands our farmers produce wheat. If I do not, the state will enforce their decision with violence.
One party says "Aryans of the world, Unite"
One party says "Workers of the world, Unite"

There is no difference other than one staunchly hating an ethnicity (based mostly on socio-economic grounds, mind you), and one hating a socio-economic class.

Two vile demons dressed in different outfits and you guys say one isn't wearing a dress because it's red instead of black.

Nazis were not socialists. Sorry. They had the word “socialist” in the name of their party. But you know that poem conservatives love? The one that goes “First they came for…?”

Tha poem begins, “
First they came for the Communists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Communist

Then they came for the Socialists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Socialist”

 

[icemun]

I don’t fucking care even if you told me you went to a few protests. Living there or driving by is not a complete picture-just like the videos are not the complete picture either. But there are videos almost daily-some days, multiple videos, of these buttfucks harassing the shit out of people and making threats.

There was one that came out today from last night where a guy is walking down the sidewalk and antifa clowns tell him to turn around and leave and that it is their sidewalk. One girl approaches him with a stick and tries to intimidate him. He grabs the stick off of her and after a struggle, he gets the stick. I don’t have that one on video, but the next part I do. They continue to not allow him to pass on the sidewalk and one antifa shoves him in the chest. He then threatens to use the stick and chases them off swinging the stick a bit but doesn’t hit anyone-there is yet another video that shows he didn’t hit anyone. He then throws the stick and starts walking away when he gets chased down by the girl that he took the stick from in the first video and she starts yelling at him about trying to hit someone with a stick. Dumb bitch is the one that brings the stick, tells him he is not allowed on the sidewalk, and dude gets shoved and she wants to play victim. The best part is that the dude then gets arrested by ppb for the altercation and he’s the only one that got arrested. Of course, all of antifa cheers and laughs at this.

Yet another incident in one week where antifa initiates the attack on a guy simply walking on the sidewalk and the conservative guy gets arrested. Yet another example where these twats will fuck with people with differing opinions when they have a numbers advantage-but you say it’s absolutely not happening.

My bad if you posted elsewhere.

Do you live in Portland ?

 

[icemun]

Using 2016-2020 to demonstrate how bad antifa used to be would be too easy, so while I have mentioned those years, I have been mainly sticking to this year-in particular, the last four months. And I am unsure if that is sarcasm or not directed at me, but antifa and blm did a shitload of damage in 20 and many buildings were set on fire. Portland, I know some things were burnt down like a police union building or something like that they tried almost daily, to light the fed court house on fire:

Has Portland or Oregon asked for federal assistance on this or any similar matters?

 

[DoctorTaco]

My bad if you posted elsewhere.

Do you live in Portland ?

@Limbo Pete and I do.

 

[Da Speeit]

Nazis were not socialists. Sorry. They had the word “socialist” in the name of their party. But you know that poem conservatives love? The one that goes “First they came for…?”

Tha poem begins, “
First they came for the Communists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Communist

Then they came for the Socialists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Socialist”

Wow! A poem!

You know what communist came for the communists too? Stalin

 

[LeonardoBjj]

So where are all the 2A bros who say guns prevent government tyranny? Does that not apply when they approve of the tyranny? I must've missed that footnote.

- The dream of the oppressed is to be the oppressor!

 

[LeonardoBjj]

What about taking out The Proud Boys and The Oath Keepers? Why did he give those guys pardons?

- THose suckers are the Trump clone guard.

 

[LeonardoBjj]

Let's take a trip back in time to 2020...

Remember CHAZ?

Portland's pride and joy!

Until police finally had enough of the violent assaults, shootings, sexual assaults, arson, etc.

- The thought to us foreigners, that a bunch of weirdos can larp about not being citzens of said state, while living there is hilarious.

 

[nhbbear]

I’ve tried searching every combination of “antifa/assault/portland/attack/2025 and I’m not coming up with hundreds and hundreds of unique videos for different attacks. Twitter, YouTube, Google, the numbers just aren’t there.

Ok, if I get bored later, I will get you a list of who is posting videos daily

 

[nhbbear]

I think it will come down to enforcement of federal law without local protections or support. I've seen it mentioned maybe not in here about a lot of the Civil Rights integration where the local government was resistant so troops were sent to enforce integration in public schools. There is no constitutionality with sanctuary cities where it comes in contact with federal law. I don't know what the solution is but obviously ice agents have to have some local law enforcement protection

Yeah, and especially in Chicago, they’re not getting that at all. In fact, when they called for help last week, there is audio of a Chicago supervisor that gets on the radio and tells dispatch and other officers “we are not responding to that”