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Law Trump says the Epstein list is a conspiracy created by Obama and Clinton

Do you believe Trump is in the Epstein List?

  • Yes, absolutely.

    Votes: 222 55.8%
  • Yes, probably.

    Votes: 113 28.4%
  • No, he's not on the list.

    Votes: 28 7.0%
  • No, there is no list. So of course he's not on it.

    Votes: 18 4.5%
  • I'm on the fence.

    Votes: 17 4.3%

  • Total voters
    398
I just thumbed out a long ass multi paragraph response to this that was lost when the page refreshed itself for no fucking reason. This has been happening a lot

It was mostly that Trump has determined that weathering the disappointment from his base was easier than dealing with his name appearing in the files in ANY context whatsoever.

The bullshit is democrats now twisting everything to where they can immediately dismiss it. Like if Maxwell testifies and says things they don’t want to hear. Well, she was coached.

Or if the files are released and Trump’s name appears in the context I believe..then whatever is redacted in the pages after becomes the goods.

So they’re operating in bad faith to create another multi year story similar to Russia. I’m NOT agreeing that it’s a democrat created hoax mind you. I’m just saying their interest is phony and they are only looking for threads to weave a tale.

The people originally getting on Trump and Bondi over this then start to qualify their criticisms or back away entirely to separate themselves from what they view as false narratives or political opportunism from the left. So it sucked the blood out of the first thing that cracked Trumps base

my original post was more expansive but I am at work.
You are though trying to dismiss legitimate criticisms. How should people be reacting to how they’ve dealt with Maxwell? Or the theater of the files and the subsequent walk back?

Is there any way to say the whole thing stinks without you pointing the finger at the people saying it stinks?
 
Trump says if you ask about the Trumpstein files and you are part of MAGA you have been duped by Democrats.
7 months in Trump is calling you dumb for the release of the Trumpstein files which is something he promised to release. An innocent man would not work this hard to hide something.
 
Why the Obama judge block the release ? Just redact the victims PII
1. the WH's request doesn't meet the legal requirements/ threshold to do so.
2. Grand Jury records are pretty meaningless and a lot of it is public record.
Why the Trump administration not relase the Epstein files?
Why don't people recognize this for the bait and switch its intended to be?
 
1. the WH's request doesn't meet the legal requirements/ threshold to do so.
2. Grand Jury records are pretty meaningless and a lot of it is public record.
Why the Trump administration not relase the Epstein files?
Why don't people recognize this for the bait and switch its intended to be?
What files are there it’s the non stop round and round why didn’t Biden release files if there are any. It’s really a stupid way of thinking that there are some files just laying around waiting to be released. If there ever was a list of powerful people on it like Trump , Clinton’s and more don’t you think it would have been destroyed the second it was found ?? People are really dumb thinking there’s some files with powerful names on laying around
 
you feel good about less people caring about the epstein files and the admin not releasing info as promised? that's something to brag about on a message board?

i wouldn't expect anything less coming from that orange-lipped epstein enthusiast.

his molester messiah gave him his marching orders and now he wants to act like all that epstein shit that he was screeching about for years on end was all some kind of hoax created by obama and the illuminati and it should suddenly be forgotten about because molestini cheetolini, catturd, tuck tuck, and ben ben told him.

reducing ourselves to carrying water for notorious child sex predators is really no biggie. that's the message that zesto molesto and the self-proclaimed party of law & order and the self-proclaimed party of christian & family values is telling the rubes just to try to protect dear leader, whose name is obviously all over those epstein files that were sitting on pam bondi's desk and then suddenly do not exist and now they do exist but are now a democrat hoax created by obama and hillary clinton - all so that they could incriminate bill clinton or some shit, and the rubes are gobbling it up as always because they still can't come to terms with being lied to by the very people who they eat the asses of.

who gives a shit if doe 174 and his best friend jeffrey (who likes women just as much as he does and many of them are on the younger side!) were out there fucking with children? and ghislaine maxwell is really a darling and a victim of a democrat hoax and she needs to be released immediately! the mandarin molester is right. forget about all of that epstein shit that we've all been crying about for years everybody, and lets focus on anything else please! hey did you hear that hunter biden smoked some crack?
 
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What files are there it’s the non stop round and round why didn’t Biden release files if there are any. It’s really a stupid way of thinking that there are some files just laying around waiting to be released. If there ever was a list of powerful people on it like Trump , Clinton’s and more don’t you think it would have been destroyed the second it was found ?? People are really dumb thinking there’s some files with powerful names on laying around
Biden isn't in power right now and Biden didn't run on releasing the Epstein files. Stop trying to deflect and make this a both sides issue.
Trump has admitted there was a file and that he is in fact on it.
I can't imaging being as pathetic and/ or stupid as you look in that post.
 
i wouldn't expect anything less coming from that orange-lipped epstein enthusiast.

his molester messiah gave him his marching orders and now he wants to act like all that epstein shit that he was screeching about for years on end was all some kind of hoax created by obama and the illuminati and it should suddenly be forgotten about because molestini cheetolini, catturd, tuck tuck, and ben ben told him.

reducing ourselves to carrying water for notorious child sex predators is really no biggie. that's the message that zesto molesto and the self-proclaimed party of law & order and the self-proclaimed party of christian & family values is telling the rubes just to try to protect dear leader, whose name is obviously all over those epstein files that were sitting on pam bondi's desk and then suddenly do not exist and now they do exist but are now a democrat hoax created by obama and hillary clinton - all so that they could incriminate bill clinton or some shit, and the rubes are gobbling it up as always because they still can't come to terms with being lied to by the very people who they eat the asses of.

who gives a shit if doe 174 and his best friend jeffrey (who likes women just as much as he does and many of them are on the younger side!) were out there fucking with children? and ghislaine maxwell is really a darling and a victim of a democrat hoax and she needs to be released immediately! the mandarin molester is right. forget about all of that epstein shit that we've all been crying about for years everybody, and lets focus on anything else please! hey did you hear that hunter biden smoked some crack?
Just today Trump told his supporters to shut the fuck up about the Trumpstein files because if they ask questions about the Trumpstein files, they are dumb Rubes, tricked by the Democrats.

You know what an innocent man does not do, is tell the people to shut the fuck up and quit asking questions.

They will release the list once the figure out how to get Trump off the list.
 
Trump says if you ask about the Trumpstein files and you are part of MAGA you have been duped by Democrats.
7 months in Trump is calling you dumb for the release of the Trumpstein files which is something he promised to release. An innocent man would not work this hard to hide something.
Oh what a tangled web we weave when at first we start to deceive. Seems like this was just yesterday...

 
What files are there it’s the non stop round and round why didn’t Biden release files if there are any. It’s really a stupid way of thinking that there are some files just laying around waiting to be released. If there ever was a list of powerful people on it like Trump , Clinton’s and more don’t you think it would have been destroyed the second it was found ?? People are really dumb thinking there’s some files with powerful names on laying around
ah, classified info now just gets destroyed when they're not needed anymore? do you still think trump can just declassify records and destroy them?

or do you think all evidence just gets destroyed when "found"? just collectively people find shit and destroy it. how does it work? and what were those binders?
 
Who were those fucking cunts anyway? Gemini tells me:

Chaya Raichik (the person behind the account Libs of TikTok)

Rogan O'Handley (the person behind the account DC_Draino)

Scott Presler (an election denier and conservative activist)

Liz Wheeler (a conservative commentator and podcast host)

Chad Prather (a conservative comedian and political commentator)

Jessica Reed Kraus (an online influencer)

Jack Posobiec (a conspiracy promoter and political commentator)

.....

LMAO. Bet they're singing a different tune today. Could have sworn one of those twats was Weird Mike Cernovich. Ahh, looks like he was: https://time.com/7305146/trump-name-epstein-files-republicans-maga-supporters-react/

Gemini hiding shit from me.
 
ah, classified info now just gets destroyed when they're not needed anymore? do you still think trump can just declassify records and destroy them?

or do you think all evidence just gets destroyed when "found"? just collectively people find shit and destroy it. how does it work? and what were those binders?
Oh yea they totally classified it and put it in a GSA safe and marked it Epstein. I’m saying it got destroyed the first time it was was read after his arrest probably and not by Trump or anyone in leadership position it would be done by a loyalist
 
, Trump never promised to release them.
In a June 2024 Fox News interview clip from the campaign, Trump indicated he would declassify / make public more materials related to Jeffrey Epstein if elected.

In a September 2024 interview he said he “would have no problem” releasing additional Epstein materials and that a client list “probably will be” made public if it existed.

Pam Bondi said, “that materials “are sitting on my desk” to review and that President Trump had directed action

July 2025 Trump publicly said he had asked the Justice Department to seek release of grand-jury testimony and other Epstein-related materials (and directed AG Bondi to pursue such releases).

That’s not getting into the trove of people on his payroll who have said the same things.
 
Oh yea they totally classified it and put it in a GSA safe and marked it Epstein. I’m saying it got destroyed the first time it was was read after his arrest probably and not by Trump or anyone in leadership position it would be done by a loyalist
That makes no sense. What happens if it’s not “found” by a “loyalist”? And a loyalist to who? Teams of federal and state investigators.
 
Biden isn't in power right now and Biden didn't run on releasing the Epstein files. Stop trying to deflect and make this a both sides issue.
Trump has admitted there was a file and that he is in fact on it.
I can't imaging being as pathetic and/ or stupid as you look in that post.
Excuse my interjection, but I want to continue to point out that not running on releasing the Epstein files is not any kind of a virtue.
We have four years of Biden as evidence that Democrats are not going to release Epstein files.
It is now clear that Trump isn't going to release Epstein files.
You have a uniparty: Kang (Dems) and Kodos (Repubs) are not going to release Epstein files.

If you like this status quo then fine, but if you don't, then you must elect a non-Dem/non-Repub president.
Ross Perot showed that a candidate from outside the uniparty could win.
The catch is that Ross Perot was probably also uniparty to split the right wing vote to elect Bill Clinton over Bush Sr; Perot even folded dutifully to Gore over the free trade debate.
Next presidential election, you need to grill all candidates mercilessly on Epstein file failures, and then write in a viral candidate on an anti-uniparty slogan like Nword Heil Hitler; do you agree?
If you don't agree then please let me know a better alternative.
 
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