Law Trump says the Epstein list is a conspiracy created by Obama and Clinton

Do you believe Trump is in the Epstein List?

  • Yes, absolutely.

    Votes: 259 57.8%

  • Yes, probably.

    Votes: 125 27.9%

  • No, he's not on the list.

    Votes: 28 6.3%

  • No, there is no list. So of course he's not on it.

    Votes: 18 4.0%

  • I'm on the fence.

    Votes: 18 4.0%
  • Total voters
    448
44nutman said:
Trump says if you ask about the Trumpstein files and you are part of MAGA you have been duped by Democrats.
7 months in Trump is calling you dumb for the release of the Trumpstein files which is something he promised to release. An innocent man would not work this hard to hide something.
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Oh what a tangled web we weave when at first we start to deceive. Seems like this was just yesterday...

 
ShadowRun said:
What files are there it’s the non stop round and round why didn’t Biden release files if there are any. It’s really a stupid way of thinking that there are some files just laying around waiting to be released. If there ever was a list of powerful people on it like Trump , Clinton’s and more don’t you think it would have been destroyed the second it was found ?? People are really dumb thinking there’s some files with powerful names on laying around
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ah, classified info now just gets destroyed when they're not needed anymore? do you still think trump can just declassify records and destroy them?

or do you think all evidence just gets destroyed when "found"? just collectively people find shit and destroy it. how does it work? and what were those binders?
 
HOLA said:
Oh what a tangled web we weave when at first we start to deceive. Seems like this was just yesterday...

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that's just the cast of modern family filming a new scene.......
 
Who were those fucking cunts anyway? Gemini tells me:

Chaya Raichik (the person behind the account Libs of TikTok)

Rogan O'Handley (the person behind the account DC_Draino)

Scott Presler (an election denier and conservative activist)

Liz Wheeler (a conservative commentator and podcast host)

Chad Prather (a conservative comedian and political commentator)

Jessica Reed Kraus (an online influencer)

Jack Posobiec (a conspiracy promoter and political commentator)

.....

LMAO. Bet they're singing a different tune today. Could have sworn one of those twats was Weird Mike Cernovich. Ahh, looks like he was: https://time.com/7305146/trump-name-epstein-files-republicans-maga-supporters-react/

Gemini hiding shit from me.
 
kflo said:
ah, classified info now just gets destroyed when they're not needed anymore? do you still think trump can just declassify records and destroy them?

or do you think all evidence just gets destroyed when "found"? just collectively people find shit and destroy it. how does it work? and what were those binders?
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Oh yea they totally classified it and put it in a GSA safe and marked it Epstein. I’m saying it got destroyed the first time it was was read after his arrest probably and not by Trump or anyone in leadership position it would be done by a loyalist
 
Kingz said:
, Trump never promised to release them.
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In a June 2024 Fox News interview clip from the campaign, Trump indicated he would declassify / make public more materials related to Jeffrey Epstein if elected.

In a September 2024 interview he said he “would have no problem” releasing additional Epstein materials and that a client list “probably will be” made public if it existed.

Pam Bondi said, “that materials “are sitting on my desk” to review and that President Trump had directed action”

July 2025 Trump publicly said he had asked the Justice Department to seek release of grand-jury testimony and other Epstein-related materials (and directed AG Bondi to pursue such releases).

That’s not getting into the trove of people on his payroll who have said the same things.
 
ShadowRun said:
Oh yea they totally classified it and put it in a GSA safe and marked it Epstein. I’m saying it got destroyed the first time it was was read after his arrest probably and not by Trump or anyone in leadership position it would be done by a loyalist
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That makes no sense. What happens if it’s not “found” by a “loyalist”? And a loyalist to who? Teams of federal and state investigators.
 
Anung Un Rama said:
Biden isn't in power right now and Biden didn't run on releasing the Epstein files. Stop trying to deflect and make this a both sides issue.
Trump has admitted there was a file and that he is in fact on it.
I can't imaging being as pathetic and/ or stupid as you look in that post.
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Excuse my interjection, but I want to continue to point out that not running on releasing the Epstein files is not any kind of a virtue.
We have four years of Biden as evidence that Democrats are not going to release Epstein files.
It is now clear that Trump isn't going to release Epstein files.
You have a uniparty: Kang (Dems) and Kodos (Repubs) are not going to release Epstein files.

If you like this status quo then fine, but if you don't, then you must elect a non-Dem/non-Repub president.
Ross Perot showed that a candidate from outside the uniparty could win.
The catch is that Ross Perot was probably also uniparty to split the right wing vote to elect Bill Clinton over Bush Sr; Perot even folded dutifully to Gore over the free trade debate.
Next presidential election, you need to grill all candidates mercilessly on Epstein file failures, and then write in a viral candidate on an anti-uniparty slogan like Nword Heil Hitler; do you agree?
If you don't agree then please let me know a better alternative.
 
And lets just also acknowledge that if the POTUS wasn'y implicated then this case, as disgusting as it is, wouldn't reach the Oval Office.
Biden was busy with covid, inflation, infrastructure, and making the USA complicit in genocide.
Under his administration, however, Maxwell was found guilty and sentenced to 20 years in prison.
Biden did not "wish her well" once, let alone twice.
Biden did not transfer her to ClubFed.
Biden is not known to be BFF with the most notorious child SA'er in US history. Nor has he been found guilty of rape.
Trump was Epsteins BFF and something of a rapist himself, who was fully aware that Epstein liked little girls.
He's admitted knowing about Epstein's interest in Virginia Giuffre.
WHERE WAS TRUMP? WHY DIDN'T HE DO SOMETHING THEN TO PROTECT VIRGINIA AND THE OTHER GIRLS EPSTEIN WAS RAPING?
Trump ran on releasing the Epstein files.
Trump has gone from saying there is no file, to calling it a hoax created by Democrats, to admitted to being in the Epstein files.
Trump has also assigned 1,000 F.B.I. agents to pour over the files to redact his name.
Imagine coming into this thread on page 259 and acting like there isn't a file and then trying to protect the billionaire felon rapist with deflection to Biden, Hillary, Obama, oh my.
 
gatchaman said:
Excuse my interjection, but I want to continue to point out that not running on releasing the Epstein files is not any kind of a virtue.
We have four years of Biden as evidence that Democrats are not going to release Epstein files.
It is now clear that Trump isn't going to release Epstein files.
You have a uniparty: Kang (Dems) and Kodos (Repubs) are not going to release Epstein files.

If you like this status quo then fine, but if you don't, then you must elect a non-Dem/non-Repub president.
Ross Perot showed that a candidate from outside the uniparty could win.
The catch is that Ross Perot was probably also uniparty to split the right wing vote to elect Bill Clinton over Bush Sr; Perot even folded dutifully to Gore over the free trade debate.
Next presidential election, you need to grill all candidates mercilessly on Epstein file failures, and then write in a viral candidate on an anti-uniparty slogan like Nword Heil Hitler; do you agree?
If you don't agree then please let me know a better alternative.
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Your interjection is excused, but I reject any "both sides" arguments. See my above post, which was being typed before I read yours.
We can talk both sides when the unredacted (except victim names) is fully released and Dems start blaming Newt Gingrich and claiming the files don't exist when Clinton is fully outed.

edit: I have a history of voting 3rd party, even much to my chagrin, so I'm not that guy. And at this late stage to not see the stark diffference is disturbing beyond my words. At least voting and democracy will be a thing of the past so we don't even have to worry about it.
 
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Anung Un Rama said:
1. the WH's request doesn't meet the legal requirements/ threshold to do so.
2. Grand Jury records are pretty meaningless and a lot of it is public record.
Why the Trump administration not relase the Epstein files?
Why don't people recognize this for the bait and switch its intended to be?
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People do. It's the MAGA nut huggers in here making excuses. The files are coming in so fast we can't keep up...
 
Anung Un Rama said:
And lets just also acknowledge that if the POTUS wasn'y implicated then this case, as disgusting as it is, wouldn't reach the Oval Office.
Biden was busy with covid, inflation, infrastructure, and making the USA complicit in genocide.
Under his administration, however, Maxwell was found guilty and sentenced to 20 years in prison.
Biden did not "wish her well" once, let alone twice.
Biden did not transfer her to ClubFed.
Biden is not known to be BFF with the most notorious child SA'er in US history. Nor has he been found guilty of rape.
Trump was Epsteins BFF and something of a rapist himself, who was fully aware that Epstein liked little girls.
He's admitted knowing about Epstein's interest in Virginia Giuffre.
WHERE WAS TRUMP? WHY DIDN'T HE DO SOMETHING THEN TO PROTECT VIRGINIA AND THE OTHER GIRLS EPSTEIN WAS RAPING?
Trump ran on releasing the Epstein files.
Trump has gone from saying there is no file, to calling it a hoax created by Democrats, to admitted to being in the Epstein files.
Trump has also assigned 1,000 F.B.I. agents to pour over the files to redact his name.
Imagine coming into this thread on page 259 and acting like there isn't a file and then trying to protect the billionaire felon rapist with deflection to Biden, Hillary, Obama, oh my.
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Interestingly that inflation during Trump tenure term had increased more than under " bad " lethargic Biden and donny doesn't have balls to discuss his senile accusations for plebs rednecks in person with President Obama..

Make america great again and change constitution in order to elect Mr Obama as POTUS again.
 
HOLA said:
Who were those fucking cunts anyway? Gemini tells me:

Chaya Raichik (the person behind the account Libs of TikTok)

Rogan O'Handley (the person behind the account DC_Draino)

Scott Presler (an election denier and conservative activist)

Liz Wheeler (a conservative commentator and podcast host)

Chad Prather (a conservative comedian and political commentator)

Jessica Reed Kraus (an online influencer)

Jack Posobiec (a conspiracy promoter and political commentator)

.....

LMAO. Bet they're singing a different tune today. Could have sworn one of those twats was Weird Mike Cernovich. Ahh, looks like he was: https://time.com/7305146/trump-name-epstein-files-republicans-maga-supporters-react/

Gemini hiding shit from me.
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The dude that looks like a pecker checker, with the vest on is DC Draino? Who is the pretend cowboy and who is the long haired dude in the back that looks like Neil from the old TV show, Young Ones.
 
Anung Un Rama said:
And lets just also acknowledge that if the POTUS wasn'y implicated then this case, as disgusting as it is, wouldn't reach the Oval Office.
Biden was busy with covid, inflation, infrastructure, and making the USA complicit in genocide.
Under his administration, however, Maxwell was found guilty and sentenced to 20 years in prison.
Biden did not "wish her well" once, let alone twice.
Biden did not transfer her to ClubFed.
Biden is not known to be BFF with the most notorious child SA'er in US history. Nor has he been found guilty of rape.
Trump was Epsteins BFF and something of a rapist himself, who was fully aware that Epstein liked little girls.
He's admitted knowing about Epstein's interest in Virginia Giuffre.
WHERE WAS TRUMP? WHY DIDN'T HE DO SOMETHING THEN TO PROTECT VIRGINIA AND THE OTHER GIRLS EPSTEIN WAS RAPING?
Trump ran on releasing the Epstein files.
Trump has gone from saying there is no file, to calling it a hoax created by Democrats, to admitted to being in the Epstein files.
Trump has also assigned 1,000 F.B.I. agents to pour over the files to redact his name.
Imagine coming into this thread on page 259 and acting like there isn't a file and then trying to protect the billionaire felon rapist with deflection to Biden, Hillary, Obama, oh my.
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Why don't you call a spade a spade for covid like you did for genocide?: Perpetual movement restriction and always one mystery injection away from being up to date.
It is a uniparty issue; a conservative premier is running the covid script for climate change in Nova Scotia.
Please stop with the bullshit of Biden being too busy; he just needed to order the release of files, and others would do the legwork.
Trump and Biden were ordered by congress to release the JFK files, and both defied congress, but the uniparty is allergic to glasnost, so there are no consequences.
Are you governed by a uniparty?
 
gatchaman said:
Why don't you call a spade a spade for covid like you did for genocide?: Perpetual movement restriction and always one mystery injection away from being up to date.
It is a uniparty issue; a conservative premier is running the covid script for climate change in Nova Scotia.
Please stop with the bullshit of Biden being too busy; he just needed to order the release of files, and others would do the legwork.
Trump and Biden were ordered by congress to release the JFK files, and both defied congress, but the uniparty is allergic to glasnost, so there are no consequences.
Are you governed by a uniparty?
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Now we're moving on to Covid shit again? Wasn't Trump president then, anyway? WTF.
 
gatchaman said:
Why don't you call a spade a spade for covid like you did for genocide?: Perpetual movement restriction and always one mystery injection away from being up to date.
It is a uniparty issue; a conservative premier is running the covid script for climate change in Nova Scotia.
Please stop with the bullshit of Biden being too busy; he just needed to order the release of files, and others would do the legwork.
Trump and Biden were ordered by congress to release the JFK files, and both defied congress, but the uniparty is allergic to glasnost, so there are no consequences.
Are you governed by a uniparty?
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Not sure I understand your complaint.
Trump is also complicit in the genocide. There is some uniparty agreement for you.
As for JFK, unless Biden or Trump are implicated in his assassination its not high on my list, sorry.
 
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