Law Trump says the Epstein list is a conspiracy created by Obama and Clinton

Do you believe Trump is in the Epstein List?

  • Yes, absolutely.

    Votes: 259 57.8%
  • Yes, probably.

    Votes: 125 27.9%
  • No, he's not on the list.

    Votes: 28 6.3%
  • No, there is no list. So of course he's not on it.

    Votes: 18 4.0%
  • I'm on the fence.

    Votes: 18 4.0%

  • Total voters
    448
This guy got love bombed. It's a manipulation tactic. Trump did the same thing recently with Bill Maher and Maher fell for it too.

"The only thing I can say about President Trump is that he is the only person who in 2009, when I served a lot of subpoenas on a lot of people, or at least gave notice to some pretty connected people that I wanted to talk to them, he is the only person who picked up the phone and said 'lets just talk, I'll give you as much time as you want, I'll tell you what you need to know.'

Edwards said Trump: "Was very helpful in the information he gave and gave no indication whatsoever that he was involved in anything untoward whatsoever but had good information that checked out and that helped us and that we didn't have to take a deposition of him."

Trump tried the same thing with Michael Wolff and Bob Woodward, etc, after they wrote books critical of him. Trump was the one calling them for meetings! After Jan 6th, Trump invited Wolff to Maro Lago. "That guy gets ratings. Let's see him."

With Bob Woodward, Woodward spoke about how they arranged phone calls, and Trump went above and beyond what was planned, and would just call him all the time. I think Woodward ended up with 20 hours of recordings. Trump's "charisma" works on some people, but not everyone. Woodward still criticized him in his next book.

He claimed to have spoken to Trump twice about his relationship with Epstein, which the business tycoon insisted was primarily business related..."Last year, I saw a 1992 video of Epstein and Trump together, suggesting that they were closer social friends than I had been made to understand."

You don't say?!?!?

Trump once hosted party for ‘young women’ where Epstein was the only guest, says report​


 
Bullshit. I don't know about you, but if I'm rotting in a prison cell, and I have information that might be of use to a political party who is in charge, that could be used against their very bad no good opponent, I'm rolling them dice.

I've already spoken on the silly logic of claiming something exists and then trying to memory hole it. I'm of the mind that the pressure to make it go away, is from outside influences that could probably put an end to Trump permanently if they wanted to. If Trump was trying to cover for himself, he wouldn't have let it go so far as to have his team lean into it after he was elected. It would've been buried immediately. As for Maxwell, it's not unusual for special inmates to get special treatment, if they are willing to talk about serious matters. She's not the first ever inmate to moved to more comfortable confines in exchange for highly sensitive information.

Since it won't go away though, you're probably gonna get a few sacrificial lambs to shut everyone up. Trump won't be one of them, because he's not involved.
You think maxwell could have gotten a sweeter deal by giving up trump (and only trump) as a participant and acknowledging her role in sex trafficking of minors?

She’s speaking NOW because she’s being asked to speak and benefiting. NOW, she has no risk, only reward.

It’s absolutely rare for convicted felons to get sweetheart deals while serving for providing information related to the same crimes she’s already serving time for. You plea before sentencing, not after.

Again, the ONLY way to give any credibility to anything she says is to support it with evidence and with the release of the files. That’s the only way. Taking her word is absurd.

I’m not even saying he’s guilty. But I am saying he’s not cleared.
 
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Careful now. I know you're very upset, but I don't think it's wise to try to wordplay around the rules here.

in this very thread we were encouraged by a moderator to use that term.

but imagine reducing yourself to carrying water for some of the most notorious child sex predators out there. is this owning any libs?
 
They are already claiming that gislane cleared trump of "doing anything in front of her". Obviously very carefully chosen words. Trump's going to pardon a child rapist and these weirdos will act like it was the right thing to do.

All the media they followed whipped them into an Epstein frenzy. Dudes like Baldy Pool and Charlie Kirk have already done a 180 on the Epstein files because Trump told them to shut the fuck up.
The problem is most of MAGA are too dumb or too emotionally invested to see the obvious media manipulation.
There is a reason a bunch of billionaires started buying Newspapers. Newspapers are a dying medium, and you would think someone worth a billion would know that, but the point is not to make money but control the narrative. They are lucky most Americans are too fucking stupid to see it.
 
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All the media they followed whipped them into an Epstein frenzy. Dudes like Baldy Pool and Charlie Kirk have already done a 180 on the Epstein files because Trump told them to shut the fuck up.
The problem is most of MAGA are too dumb or too emotionally invested to see the obvious media manipulation.
There is a reason a bunch of billionaires started buying Newspapers. Newspapers are a dying medium, and you would think someone worth a billion would know that, but the point is not to make money but control the narrative. They are luck most Americans are too fucking stupid to see it.
and we've already seen that they are 100% controlling the narrative through editorial resignations, firings, and whistleblowers. We're doomed if twitter and facebook is the replacement for journalism
 
Article says it happened between 2023 and 2024, during the open border disaster under Biden.

What does this have to do with this thread, other than the Trump admin closed the border, preventing him from trafficking, and now prosecuting him?

That wasnt just mental backflipping, that was me tal trapeze work.
 
New Gallup poll is out on Trump's job approval. Republicans truly are fascinating.

Jan job approval for Trump:

Republicans: 91%
Independents: 46%
Democrats: 6%
All U.S. Adults: 47%

Current job approval for Trump:

Republicans: 89%
Independents: 23%
Democrats: 1%
All U.S. Adults: 37%
Looks like the majority of registered Republicans support PDFs.
 
That wasnt just mental backflipping, that was me tal trapeze work.

How so? You posted it as pointing out the child trafficking is still going on under Trump. However, the person commited the tracking before Trump got into office and is now being prosecuted.

Or did I miss something?
 
Oh, Canada!

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How so? You posted it as pointing out the child trafficking is still going on under Trump. However, the person commited the tracking before Trump got into office and is now being prosecuted.

Or did I miss something?
I think the guy who removes the sex offender status of a person who was part of the largest sex trafficking ring, so she can get put in a cushy jail, is not being tough on Epsteinphiles.
BTW Maxwell has multiple eyewitnesses who said she observed and participated in the raping of teenage girls. We all know the removing the sex offender status is quid pro quo. Imagine seeing all of that and someone deflecting to the other team. You are a sick individual and need to take a hard look in the mirror
Also, the GOP is currently blocking looking into Epstein's finances and releasing the Epstein files, but I guess that is the Dems fault somehow in your Kari Lake is pulling ahead, partisan riddled brain of yours.
 
Oh, Canada!

O Canada! Our home and native land! True patriot love in all of us command. With glowing hearts we see thee rise, The True North strong and free! From far and wide, O Canada, we stand on guard for thee. God keep our land glorious and free! O Canada, we stand on guard for thee". Another version of the song includes the lyrics "O Canada, glorious and free! We stand on guard, we stand on guard for thee. O Canada, we stand on guard for thee. Great prairies spread, and lordly rivers flow. From East to Western sea. The True North strong and free!
You feeling ok bud?
 
A person with intimate knowledge of the situation might be more credible than random twitter slop? How controversial.

I can't believe you think a convicted child sex trafficker who lied under oath about her crimes has any sort of credibility. That's just beyond the pale. It's a shame OJ is dead, otherwise we could have simply asked him who killed his wife, right?

<JagsKiddingMe>

We all know what your opinion of her credibility would be if she said what you wanted to hear.

Do you ever wonder why your arguments always seem to be based on what you "know" people would do, as opposed to what they've actually done?

Pro tip: Just because reality isn't on your side doesn't mean your fantasy becomes a relevant point of discussion.

Her "credibility" to you simply depends on her implicating one man.

Pretty sure I outlined how much "credibility" I think the perjured child sex trafficker has.
 
I think the guy who removes the sex offender status of a person who was part of the largest sex trafficking ring, so she can get put in a cushy jail, is not being tough on Epsteinphiles.
BTW Maxwell has multiple eyewitnesses who said she observed and participated in the raping of teenage girls. We all know the removing the sex offender status is quid pro quo. Imagine seeing all of that and someone deflecting to the other team. You are a sick individual and need to take a hard look in the mirror
Also, the GOP is currently blocking looking into Epstein's finances and releasing the Epstein files, but I guess that is the Dems fault somehow in your Kari Lake is pulling ahead, partisan riddled brain of yours.

This weird rant has nothing to do with the link he posted and the point he failed to make.
 
“Infidelity does not consist in believing, or in disbelieving; it consists in professing to believe what he does not believe. It is impossible to calculate the moral mischief, if I may so express it, that mental lying has produced in society. When a man has so far corrupted and prostituted the chastity of his mind, as to subscribe his professional belief to things he does not believe, he has prepared himself for the commission of every other crime.”

― Thomas Paine
 
I can't believe you think a convicted child sex trafficker who lied under oath about her crimes has any sort of credibility. That's just beyond the pale. It's a shame OJ is dead, otherwise we could have simply asked him who killed his wife, right?

<JagsKiddingMe>



Do you ever wonder why your arguments always seem to be based on what you "know" people would do, as opposed to what they've actually done?

Pro tip: Just because reality isn't on your side doesn't mean your fantasy becomes a relevant point of discussion.



Pretty sure I outlined how much "credibility" I think the perjured child sex trafficker has.
The libs did something bad in my imagination; therefore, it is only fair for us to do it in reality!
 
Oh, Canada!

O Canada! Our home and native land! True patriot love in all of us command. With glowing hearts we see thee rise, The True North strong and free! From far and wide, O Canada, we stand on guard for thee. God keep our land glorious and free! O Canada, we stand on guard for thee". Another version of the song includes the lyrics "O Canada, glorious and free! We stand on guard, we stand on guard for thee. O Canada, we stand on guard for thee. Great prairies spread, and lordly rivers flow. From East to Western sea. The True North strong and free!
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