Law Trump says the Epstein list is a conspiracy created by Obama and Clinton

Do you believe Trump is in the Epstein List?

  • Yes, absolutely.

    Votes: 259 57.8%

  • Yes, probably.

    Votes: 125 27.9%

  • No, he's not on the list.

    Votes: 28 6.3%

  • No, there is no list. So of course he's not on it.

    Votes: 18 4.0%

  • I'm on the fence.

    Votes: 18 4.0%
  • Total voters
    448
Substance Abuse said:


I find it hilarious that after all the shit this orange ass clown has done over the years, this is the one single thing his nut huggers won't let go. Better late than never, I suppose.
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The very notion that a well known sexual deviant with a slew of SA allegations would be the one to "take down the satanic global child trafficking ring" shows just how insane these people were.

Like I said before, it's like voting for The Hamburgler to take down the global elites who are stealing hamburgers.
 
Mr Holmes said:
There's absolutely list.
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I elaborate more on that here:

Neph

Law Post in thread 'Trump says the Epstein list is a conspiracy created by Obama and Clinton'

I've mentioned this here; I don't know if I'm completely on board for it, but I think it's a possibility:

There's a good chance there's no list as such. It was likely a convenient thing for Trump to refer to for his own benefit.

I do suspect there's an informal list of some kind. This list would range from 'very unlikely' to 'very likely' perpetrators, and many in-between. If someone was ever on a flight with Epstein, are they on the list...
 
Neph said:
I elaborate more on that here:

Neph

Law Post in thread 'Trump says the Epstein list is a conspiracy created by Obama and Clinton'

I've mentioned this here; I don't know if I'm completely on board for it, but I think it's a possibility:

There's a good chance there's no list as such. It was likely a convenient thing for Trump to refer to for his own benefit.

I do suspect there's an informal list of some kind. This list would range from 'very unlikely' to 'very likely' perpetrators, and many in-between. If someone was ever on a flight with Epstein, are they on the list...
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It was clearly a blackmail operation, so there would be receipts. My guess is Trump thought he could clean up the list and remove himself and his friends but Isreal told him couldn't do that.
 
Mr Holmes said:
It was clearly a blackmail operation, so there would be receipts. My guess is Trump thought he could clean up the list and remove himself and his friends but Isreal told him couldn't do that.
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Let's just keep it simple. Epstein fucked kids. He hung out with a lot of dudes that fucked kids. Yes, there were a lot of other things going on, but we don't know exactly what.
 
ShadowRun said:
Depends on the source , I find it hard to believe if there was some list it would last this long if powerful people were on it. It’s gone the first time seen forever .

Also sherbro have you ventured to Vegas ? Any really good whiskey specialist places ? I wanna try high level stuff . I been to Vegas a lot but never went out searching for that
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What type of source do you think would hold weight? Even fairly unbiased sources like Reuters and AP get shit on by Trump supporters, and I really don’t think right-leaning sources would be much help if Dems released the list. They’d coin some new term for it like “P:eek::eek::eek:ofare” or something.

I used to live in NV—not in Vegas, but have been there quite a few times. It’s been probably over a decade since I was in Vegas, so I’m not really sure on good whiskey bars. I know that Whiskey Down at the MGM Grand gets good reviews, and so does Oak and Ivy, but I’ve never been to either so can’t say.

SKYNET said:
Democrats would have the majority in the house and senate today.
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Nah, I don’t buy that. The only reason the MAGA faithful are having a fit is because this is something Trump himself is doing and his hand-picked administration, so they have to contend with it. If we releases a list, Trump would employ the same defense he is now and always uses—“it’s a Democrat hoax!”—and his supporters would buy it. The narrative would be that all our hoaxes, “lawfare,” and even assassination attempts had failed, we were desperate and in shambles, now we had stooped to smearing Trump as a PDF file. That would be the story, and his supporters would 100% believe it.

Maybe we’d sway some middle of the road type voters, but I don’t even feel certain about that.
 
Crazy Source said:
Let's just keep it simple. Epstein fucked kids. He hung out with a lot of dudes that fucked kids. Yes, there were a lot of other things going on, but we don't know exactly what.
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Epstein hung out with the head of the IDF and was gifted the biggest piece of real-estate in Manhattan. I think there's more to it than that.
 
Mr Holmes said:
There's absolutely list.
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A list of what, though? Some flight logs? A client list? Okay, that's gonna include a whole bunch of people who dealt with him legitimately. What does releasing some ambiguous list get anyone? Should people just assume they were all fucking kids, including the wealthy women who are likely on that list as well? It would open a whole other can of worms, where the public would be tasked with blindly sorting it all out.

Is there "evidence" of people who were doing wrong? Certainly, and that should be made public. This whole "list" obsession is a bit silly though. That's what you don't want to be released, because it won't actually reveal anything, and would likely give more cover to the government to play dumb about who did what.

Fuck some ambiguous list that will just raise more questions than it answers, and just have everyone chaotically pointing fingers from their partisan camps. Release the actual evidence of wrongdoing. Let's have an actual discovery of evidence released, that they used to charge both of them with. We already have "lists" of known associates that are easily accessible. Should we go burn down Chris Tucker's house, because he's on it?
 
HereticBD said:
A list of what, though? Some flight logs? A client list? Okay, that's gonna include a whole bunch of people who dealt with him legitimately. What does releasing some ambiguous list get anyone? Should people just assume they were all fucking kids, including the wealthy women who are likely on that list as well? It would open a whole other can of worms, where the public would be tasked with blindly sorting it all out.

Is there "evidence" of people who were doing wrong? Certainly, and that should be made public. This whole "list" obsession is a bit silly though. That's what you don't want to be released, because it won't actually reveal anything, and would likely give more cover to the government to play dumb about who did what.

Fuck some ambiguous list that will just raise more questions than it answers, and just have everyone chaotically pointing fingers from their partisan camps. Release the actual evidence of wrongdoing. Let's have an actual discovery of evidence released, that they used to charge both of them with. We already have "lists" of known associates that are easily accessible. Should we go burn down Chris Tucker's house, because he's on it?
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I agree with you (see my comments above), and I think this puts Trump into the situation where he's exploited this and accused others of being offenders to his own benefit. Trump is in a no win of his own creation - either it doesn't exist, and he's a scum bag for saying Clinton 'did it', or it does exist, and he won't release it.
 
Mr Holmes said:
Epstein hung out with the head of the IDF and was gifted the biggest piece of real-estate in Manhattan. I think there's more to it than that.
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Youre probably not wrong. But the people who were fooled by the largest and most transparent con of all time should probably sit back & stop thinking...
Let the people who warned you & who were 100% right take it from here.

Reflect at least for a few weeks on being dead wrong for years before you start playing expert or grand standing again.
Sit this one out and get that credibility up some before you start pontificating like know it alls.
 
HereticBD said:
A list of what, though? Some flight logs? A client list? Okay, that's gonna include a whole bunch of people who dealt with him legitimately. What does releasing some ambiguous list get anyone? Should people just assume they were all fucking kids, including the wealthy women who are likely on that list as well? It would open a whole other can of worms, where the public would be tasked with blindly sorting it all out.

Is there "evidence" of people who were doing wrong? Certainly, and that should be made public. This whole "list" obsession is a bit silly though. That's what you don't want to be released, because it won't actually reveal anything, and would likely give more cover to the government to play dumb about who did what.

Fuck some ambiguous list that will just raise more questions than it answers, and just have everyone chaotically pointing fingers from their partisan camps. Release the actual evidence of wrongdoing. Let's have an actual discovery of evidence released, that they used to charge both of them with. We already have "lists" of known associates that are easily accessible. Should we go burn down Chris Tucker's house, because he's on it?
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The list is more of a metaphor. Epstein kept records of these people exploiting children so that he blackmail them. Mossad most certainly has this info. I don't see any world where our alphabet agencies allow Mossad to conduct that without themselves getting a piece of the action.
 
WklySportsMemes said:
Youre probably not wrong. But the people who were fooled by the largest and most transparent con of all time should probably sit back & stop thinking...
Let the people who warned you & who were 100% right take it from here.

Reflect at least for a few weeks on being dead wrong for years before you start playing expert or grand standing again.
Sit this one out and get that credibility up some before you start pontificating like know it alls.
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Uh, what was I wrong about? You know I didn't vote for Trump, right?
 
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