Law Trump says the Epstein list is a conspiracy created by Obama and Clinton

Do you believe Trump is in the Epstein List?

  • Yes, absolutely.

    Votes: 259 57.8%
  • Yes, probably.

    Votes: 125 27.9%
  • No, he's not on the list.

    Votes: 28 6.3%
  • No, there is no list. So of course he's not on it.

    Votes: 18 4.0%
  • I'm on the fence.

    Votes: 18 4.0%

  • Total voters
    448
And it begins...

If only she had said what you wanted hear, she'd be a saint and a patriot.

She spent nine hours with Trump's personal lawyer, was immediately transferred to a minimum security prison which should have been impossible due to her sex trafficking conviction, and then tells the world the only person who can pardon her didn't do anything wrong.

Are you really saying the only reason to question this is partisan motive?

Seriously?
 
Sure, bud. I totally believe that you wouldn't be spiking the ball into the center of the Earth if Maxwell had implicated Trump, because she's a big old liar, LOL.

You guys are so pathetic.

You'll always have Reddit.
Sure bud. Continue to carry that water. It says more about you than me.
 
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She spent nine hours with Trump's personal lawyer, was immediately transferred to a minimum security prison which should have been impossible due to her sex trafficking conviction, and then tells the world the only person who can pardon her didn't do anything wrong.

Are you really saying the only reason to question this is partisan motive?

Seriously?
No, he just doesn't think it's a crime when his rich overlords do it. Obviously that's his jam.
 
She spent nine hours with Trump's personal lawyer, was immediately transferred to a minimum security prison which should have been impossible due to her sex trafficking conviction, and then tells the world the only person who can pardon her didn't do anything wrong.

Are you really saying the only reason to question this is partisan motive?

Seriously?
And what was she doing before that, that prevented her from speaking out against Trump? Don't you think she might've spilled those beans prior to him becoming President again, if she was looking for favors from a political party that may have benefitted from such information? Was it all a master plan on her part to wait until Trump became President again, so she could gain favor with that future administration she totally knew would win?

Oh' wait, I forgot you guys are incapable of logic when it comes to Trump.

Stay forever losing.
 
No, he just doesn't think it's a crime when his rich overlords do it. Obviously that's his jam.

I have no idea if Trump is guilty of anything with Epstein, I don't think there's any chance we'll ever know. I'm guessing the people who could be implicated are too powerful in general for ANY of them to go down, because none of them would go down alone.

If Maxwell had pointed fingers which led to convictions, then and only then could I take her word seriously. She doing nothing to help bring any monsters to justice, so what kind of person takes her absolution of the only person who can pardon her at face value?

It's cartoonishly stupid.
 
There are audio recordings of Jeffrey Epstein saying Trump was a horrible human being who does terrible things to the wives of his friends.
Oh' my God, you're taking the word of an evil sex trafficker!

LOL. You guys are just precious.
 
I am happy to let this all cook and see it play out. Epstein hearings in congress, grand juries for not just Russia collusion, but also Hunter Biden laptop, 2020 election, and the lawfare against Trump.

Next year and a half going to be lit
You were still claiming in like 2023 that Biden was going to be disqualified and Trump was going to be appointed the winner of the 2020 election. Seek help already.
 
It's not just Maxwell. Lawyers have said that Trump has been the only guy associated with him to ever help them out in the investigation into Epstein, long before this even became a big deal.

Except it's completely within his power to release the Epstein list, which he campaigned on doing so, and he refuses. And then his DOJ just moved Maxwell to a cushier prison. Didn't even bother to give a reason for doing so.

Watching you try to sell the idea that Trump, of all people, has been forthcoming about this is pretty funny. The things you guys think you can just make up on the go and try and sell, really does demonstrate a disconnect from reality.



Anyways, looks like it's shaping up to be another big old L for the spastic Liberals.

Go on.......
 
And what was she doing before that, that prevented her from speaking out against Trump? Don't you think she might've spilled those beans prior to him becoming President again, if she was looking for favors from a political party that may have benefitted from such information? Was it all a master plan on her part to wait until Trump became President again, so she could gain favor with that future administration she totally knew would win?

Oh' wait, I forgot you guys are incapable of logic when it comes to Trump.

Stay forever losing.

She had nothing to gain by making an accusation (except for maybe a suspicious "suicide"), while Trump's getting so much heat from this issue she's working for a pardon by absolving him. Maybe.

I never speak on this issue because I don't think we're ever going to know what really happened, but if you don't see the logic in the post you replied to, there's no reaching you. You've achieved maximum hackery. You may even have exceeded Whippy, and that's an incredibly high bar.
 
No, not him.

Maybe get off of Reddit.
Maybe read a book. Do they have book stores in Bumblefuck, Nowhere, where you live, foreigner? Does Amazon even deliver there? It seems you at least have an internet connection, so you really shouldn't be this dumb. Let's try Google. Oh, my:

"The lawyer who said Donald Trump was the only person to help them with the Epstein case is Alan Dershowitz.

Dershowitz, a prominent lawyer and Harvard Law School professor emeritus, was part of Jeffrey Epstein's legal team that negotiated a controversial non-prosecution agreement in 2007.


He has publicly stated that after Epstein's initial arrest and subsequent plea deal, many people shunned him, and that Trump was the only one who didn't. He claims that Trump was the only person who helped him during that time."
 
She spent nine hours with Trump's personal lawyer, was immediately transferred to a minimum security prison which should have been impossible due to her sex trafficking conviction, and then tells the world the only person who can pardon her didn't do anything wrong.

Are you really saying the only reason to question this is partisan motive?

Seriously?

I don't think they even believe it. They just need a reason to beg us to stop talking about it.

The easiest rebuttal in the world is just to keep calling for the release of the files, which the White House could compel tomorrow. But they don't want that, so they're asking us to just Ghislaine Maxwell of all people. It's lame in both how unethical it is to support literal convicted sex-traffickers and child rapists; and that they'd be dumb enough to think they're coming off as anything as complete pussies.
 
Lol at that projection. You've gotten duped by every single claim that you wish was true and they've all blown up in your face, and still don't even have a baseline level of shame to admit you'vebeen duped over and over to not fall for every single one. Is there a single person who "liked" your post who wasnt all in on Russiagate? No, obviously, because you absolutely demand to be lied to.

The fuck do you mean "I don't know if those people are in on it or not"? You know who had access to or control of "the files", so there is no other option than for them to be in on it.

They didn't even technically lie to you, actually, they just count on their voters to be dumb enough to draw retarded conclusions that they didn't actually say, because that's what you always do. They just say "in the files" because they know the tard patrol will think that means implicated in sex crimes without ever saying it, which you just did.

Lol at "playing like you're Columbo" for not buying your conspiracy theory with 0 evidence. Your damning evidence is that he flew on the guy's plane 4 times with his wife and daughter. Get a grip.
I can’t tell you how shocked I am that you didn’t even try to read and respond to what I said.
 
I won’t believe anything she says without transparency about the files. Anything she says that is released must be corroborated with evidence. If they release anything about ANYONE, it must be accompanied with transparency about the files or hard evidence. Releasing quotes from her without anything else is complete bullshit.
Reasonable
 
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She had nothing to gain by making an accusation
Bullshit. I don't know about you, but if I'm rotting in a prison cell, and I have information that might be of use to a political party who is in charge, that could be used against their very bad no good opponent, I'm rolling them dice.
I never speak on this issue because I don't think we're ever going to know what really happened, but if you don't see the logic in the post you replied to, there's no reaching you. You've achieved maximum hackery. You may even have exceeded Whippy, and that's an incredibly high bar.
I've already spoken on the silly logic of claiming something exists and then trying to memory hole it. I'm of the mind that the pressure to make it go away, is from outside influences that could probably put an end to Trump permanently if they wanted to. If Trump was trying to cover for himself, he wouldn't have let it go so far as to have his team lean into it after he was elected. It would've been buried immediately. As for Maxwell, it's not unusual for special inmates to get special treatment, if they are willing to talk about serious matters. She's not the first ever inmate to moved to more comfortable confines in exchange for highly sensitive information.

Since it won't go away though, you're probably gonna get a few sacrificial lambs to shut everyone up. Trump won't be one of them, because he's not involved.
 
I can’t tell you how shocked I am that you didn’t even try to read and respond to what I said.
What response did you want to CTs based on "trust me, bro"? Still waiting for any of you to provide a shred of evidence.

Pretty sure I've made it perfectly clear that you've absolutely shredded your own credibility by falling for every fake CT you come across, so either provide your evidence, which you can't, or take the L.
 
Maybe read a book. Do they have book stores in Bumblefuck, Nowhere, where you live, foreigner? Does Amazon even deliver there? It seems you at least have an internet connection, so you really shouldn't be this dumb. Let's try Google. Oh, my:

"The lawyer who said Donald Trump was the only person to help them with the Epstein case is Alan Dershowitz.

Dershowitz, a prominent lawyer and Harvard Law School professor emeritus, was part of Jeffrey Epstein's legal team that negotiated a controversial non-prosecution agreement in 2007.


He has publicly stated that after Epstein's initial arrest and subsequent plea deal, many people shunned him, and that Trump was the only one who didn't. He claims that Trump was the only person who helped him during that time."
Still not the guy I'm talking about. This was a lawyer for one of the victims, I believe. I'd post the clip, but searching for anything with "Trump/Epstein" in the title, isn't gonna lead me to it at this time.
 
As for Maxwell, it's not unusual for special inmates to get special treatment, if they are willing to talk about serious matters. She's not the first ever inmate to moved to more comfortable confines in exchange for highly sensitive information.

It's really obvious when you just make shit up as you go along. You know that, don't you?

You have multiple attorneys who post here. Some of us have worked in criminal law and with Federal Courts. It is not typical at all for convicted sex traffickers to get reductions in treatment for unsupported testimony.

And the whole room knows that, because you'll never source an example of one to support your claim. Honestly kid, when you do silly shit like, omit that it's Alan Dershowitz when you cite a "lawyer," speaking fondly about Trump and Epstein, you not only don't fool anyone, you come across as a pathetic liar.

Think about that. You just got caught by multiple posters, lying about the Epstein case in order to make Trump look better. I honestly can't think of anything lamer.
 
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