International Trump/Putin Summit

[Amerikuracana]

Maybe Trump can come put of the media and explain to the American children and their retarded media that Crimea has wanted to rejoin Russia since they left.. And that in fact it was such common knowledge that it was even printed in school books for children a few years back.

 

[kpt018]

We'll see, I suppose.
I'm not too concerned with rhetoric; it's politics.
The US is trashed by the media of our so-called allied al the time, it's nothing new.

Dude, we are talking about state run propaganda which literally paints the US as their enemy and Putin is the only one to prevent us from destroying them, not an independent critical media.

Do countries that want "better relations" show demonstrations of missiles hitting their allies?

 

[Gregolian]

That is a type of asset

True, my brain though feels like asset involves outward direction.

Like McNulty asking Bubbles to go find Omar in Season 2 of The Wire.

 

[GetTheseHands]

Obama also hit them with harsher sanctions on his way out.

AFTER THE ELECTION...

 

[Rational Poster]

It doesn't matter. Your asking trump to admit that the Russian Government is the reason he won. That's what admitting that would mean and his ego wont allow it.

That's really what it all boils down too.

Trump and his fans don't want to admit their victory is tainted by Russian interference even if its true.

 

[kpt018]

AFTER THE ELECTION...

Uh, yeah, it was punishment for fucking with the election. What is your point?

 

[Fawlty]

What’s your take on Putin / Russia these days? Simple enemies of ours, or more nuanced?

Russia is explicitly an enemy of Western democracy and NATO. It's not a hidden agenda or anything like that, it's just state policy. There are areas of potential cooperation like North Korea, Syria, Turkey, certain instances of Muslim terrorism and Chinese expansion, but so far none of those have panned out for US-Russia relations. It's all very hostile. They've been very effective, too. Like convincing enough of the world that it was okay to militarily invade and annex territory owned by a founding UN member. Our president, rather than being hostile to Russia, welcomes their propaganda into our borders, lies on their behalf, and sucks off Putin on the world stage while agents working under his orders are committing crimes in our political system - and Trump is simultaneously praising the crimes and denying them. There's a lot of nuance to the ways in which they are simply an enemy.

 

[Gutter Chris]

No, see you guys what to live in the history of now and expect everyone to forget what you said 5 minutes ago, you know 'whataboutisms'

I have always said and believed Russia to be an enemy and the 80s called and wants its policy back was ignorant as fuck to say, I remember it was said and im telling you it wasnt true then and its not true now and its disgraceful that the republicans in power are giving the russians a pass for fucking with out country because it benefited them ( this time)

As far as whataboutisms go

You guys jumped down his throat for that comment but now its true because your team won and wants to be friendly with the russians all of a sudden ?

How bout that whataboutism and forgetting what was said 5 minutes ago.

I sometimes have a hard time with politics because im not some kind of cheer leading hack and I try to be consistent

 

[Crystaline Entity]

This was debunked over a year ago. You need to update your talking points.

Is that right? Where and by whom was it debunked? Operation Mockingbird deep state run fake news? The same people who attempted to overthrow a legally Constitutionally elected President in a hostile coup? Better yet, show me your hard undisputable smoking gun evidence that it was a Russian hack. Oh you don't have that? All you have are baseless accusations and indictments of ham sandwiches meant to draw attention away from IG reports and Congressional hearings proving the depth of corruption in the circle of deep state globalists who are trying to evilly destroy the US Constitution, destroy national heritages & cultures, and gain complete domination over the entire planet.
https://www.sott.net/article/391123...-Putin-Trump-summit-as-Russiagate-fizzles-out

 

[Pessimystic]

And remember, this whole campaign hacking that is being claimed happened under Obama, who was adamant in his certainty that influencing the election was impossible.

 

[curryjunkie]

Trump just stated he believes Putin over the U.S. intelligence community.

he may as well fellate him in front of congress

 

[Voltron]

Trump just stated he believes Putin over the U.S. intelligence community.

This a damn insult to this country, but hey he is building a wall and stuff......

 

[kpt018]

And remember, this whole campaign hacking that is being claimed happened under Obama, who was adamant in his certainty that influencing the election was impossible.

Ok, so he was wrong. I guess it's a good thing we have Trump now to make sure this doesn't happen again (smh).

Also, the election was very close and there are a number of factors that could have swayed the election. It's not fair to say this was it!

 

[Pessimystic]

Dude, we are talking about state run propaganda which literally paints the US as their enemy and Putin is the only one to prevent us from destroying them, not an independent critical media.

Do countries that want "better relations" show demonstrations of missiles hitting their allies?

When was that video made? I seem to recall one a few years back, but I'm not certain.
And like I said, I'm not interested in rhetoric, it's politics.
I'm interested in seeing what results from this.

 

[GOATER]

Trump just betrayed America....undeniably

He put russia over hardworking American citizens working to protect America via intelligence.

He put russia over the men and women who have prevented terrorist attacks on American soil.

Its truly a disgrace.....what makes it worse, is that right wingers have betrayed America as well for supporting trump.

This is why Russia influenced the election and wanted trump to win....say what you want about hilary clinton(She sucks, I dont like her) but atleast she wasnt a russian/putin cuck, and putin knew this, thus he trolled people on facebook to help trump.

So fuck trump and pussy fucking right wing putin cucks...you people are a fucking disgrace and have just officially betrayed America!!!!!

 

[Cake4Breakfast]

That's really what it all boils down too.

Trump and his fans don't want to admit their victory is tainted by Russian interference even if its true.

At best

 

[kpt018]

When was that video made? I seem to recall one a few years back, but I'm not certain.
And like I said, I'm not interested in rhetoric, it's politics.
I'm interested in seeing what results from this.

Well, I don't know when it was produced man, if that's what you're asking. But it came out during Trump's presidency.

I'm just pushing back on the vague praise of "better relations". We don't want war, but we don't want to be friendly with countries that are actively trying to undermine our goals either.

 

[Pupi]

Any word on when the Russia sanctions will be lifted?

 

[Pessimystic]

Ok, so he was wrong. I guess it's a good thing we have Trump now to make sure this doesn't happen again (smh).

Also, the election was very close and there are a number of factors that could have swayed the election. It's not fair to say this was it!

They didn't though.
The dems are upset that they got their dirty laundry aired. Too bad, they said what they said, and I for one like to know what our politicians really think and say when the cameras and mics and teleprompters are off.

 

[curryjunkie]

This thread is our current political environment in a nutshell.