Law Trump picks Fox News host for Defense Secretary

[avenue94]

The guy oversaw the Afghan withdrawal and the US military is currently facing a recruiting crisis with two ongoing wars with US allied countries.
Yeah, to be honest it can't get much worse.

What did Austin have to do with the recruiting crisis?

And let's give a couple plausible examples that have happened before:
-Israel asks for American support for an air strike on Iranian nuclear facilities. The defense secretary blindly advises Trump to go with his gut rather than presenting the potential risks of such a strike. (Israel asked for this approval late in GWB's tenure.)
-When the US wanted to retaliate against Iran in 2019, DoD gave Trump a couple options, with assassinating Soleimani being the most extreme case and meant as a nudge toward the less extreme choices. A secdef who is slavishly devoted to Trump might instead present options where that most extreme option is now the normalized option, with instead use something like US airstrikes on Iranian military bases as the new choice.

Do either of these scenarios sound like their worse than the current status quo? You seem to think the DOD is in the worst state it's in (it isn't). What areas do you think are, let's say, its top 3 failings right now?

You know Elon has been hired by Trump already right? It was a joke putting him in charge of the Military but he is already going into a role within the Trump administration.

I know he's been announced as a hire but it's hard to say if he'll make it to an actual appointment given his business interests and the fact that Elon has made many a promise then gotten cold feet.

 

[Vampire life]

This should twist some panties

Vivek Ramaswamy, Elon Musk to head US 'government efficiency' department in Trump administration

“ DOGE”
Department of government efficiency

 

[avenue94]

With a 20% recruiting shortfall and most combat experienced ground commanders having left in recent years...

Odd that you're expecting a semi-isolationist president to increase the size of the military. Do you support the current military footprint goals?

100%
And he hid in the hospital for 3 days without telling potus or anyone else
DEi hire

Of the last 10 appointed secretaries of defense, which ones were more qualified than Austin at the time of confirmation?

 

[TJ Dillashank]

He's also a infantry major with actual combat experience and education from both Princeton and Harvard

Weird how that got left out

 

[IDGETKTFO]

Funny how TS left those parts out huh?

I litterally was just going to post something along those lines. This is why i abandoned the democratic party. They are fucking insufferable.

 

[GearSolidMetal]

Yea funny how the Indian has the same talking point as TS, "Fox New friends host" leaves out important background information .. TDS 2.0 is going to be a good season

 

[IDGETKTFO]

TS wants these type of people in charge of America's national security.

I hope Trump fires every single one of them/they, if them/they havent left the country already.

 

[avenue94]

Weird how that got left out

Do you think that's comparable organizational experience to running a department the size of DoD? There's a reason most appointees for the position are usually flag rank at some time prior.

 

[Misfit23]

They are grifters, nothing more
The whole reason Trump went after the trans in the military is because they had to pay their medical expenses to accommodate their mental illness because they were enlisted

Easy to google it

That's not grifting. That's taking advantage of military benefits.

Grifting is some BLM chapters taking donations and lining their own pockets or the Trump Bible/Trump Crypto/Trump sneakers.

 

[avenue94]

That's not grifting. That's taking advantage of military benefits.

Grifting is some BLM chapters taking donations and lining their own pockets or the Trump Bible/Trump Crypto/Trump sneakers.

Just wait until he hears about how much money the military spends on ED drugs

 

[Rational Poster]

With a 20% recruiting shortfall and most combat experienced ground commanders having left in recent years...

DOD Addresses Recruiting Shortfall Challenges

Shortfalls in some of the military services' recruiting goals for fiscal year 2023 demonstrate the challenges that lie ahead for the all-volunteer force, the Defense Department's acting undersecretary

www.defense.gov

You can keep throwing money at it to prop it up, but the end result is that the Military is currently at a deficit in terms of qualified personnel.

And you think just hiring the guy who made Top Gun is actually a solution to the recruitment shortfall?

 

[ShadowRun]

 

[maximus__]

Odd that you're expecting a semi-isolationist president to increase the size of the military. Do you support the current military footprint goals?

Of the last 10 appointed secretaries of defense, which ones were more qualified than Austin at the time of confirmation?

I don't expect them to increase the size of the Military. They missed recruiting goals that were set based on the current geopolitical climate (Two ongoing wars with US support)

I think he was very qualified. he just did a poor job and it's time for someone new. I am surprised we didn;t see Goggins get a gig or someone like that.

 

[avenue94]

I don't expect them to increase the size of the Military. They missed recruiting goals that were set based on the current geopolitical climate (Two ongoing wars with US support)

Recruiting goals are based on Ukraine and Israel. I'm not sure why you would think that. If the US is going to step up military spending, who's supposed to man and crew all these new toys?

I think he was very qualified. he just did a poor job and it's time for someone new. I am surprised we didn;t see Goggins get a gig or someone like that.

You act like keeping Austin on was ever an option lol. And like I said: the common thread with Trump's appointees is their devotion to him above all else, no consideration given to actual experience or ability. DEI you might say.

Are their big companies where a the executive board was overly deferential to the chief executive succeeded? These companies are usually the ones that end up fucked due to bad accounting or mismanagement. It seems you're more interested in a burn it down approach and dumbing down governance that actually addressing the DoD's laundry list of shortcomings.

 

[maximus__]

What did Austin have to do with the recruiting crisis?

And let's give a couple plausible examples that have happened before:
-Israel asks for American support for an air strike on Iranian nuclear facilities. The defense secretary blindly advises Trump to go with his gut rather than presenting the potential risks of such a strike. (Israel asked for this approval late in GWB's tenure.)
-When the US wanted to retaliate against Iran in 2019, DoD gave Trump a couple options, with assassinating Soleimani being the most extreme case and meant as a nudge toward the less extreme choices. A secdef who is slavishly devoted to Trump might instead present options where that most extreme option is now the normalized option, with instead use something like US airstrikes on Iranian military bases as the new choice.

Do either of these scenarios sound like their worse than the current status quo? You seem to think the DOD is in the worst state it's in (it isn't). What areas do you think are, let's say, its top 3 failings right now?

I know he's been announced as a hire but it's hard to say if he'll make it to an actual appointment given his business interests and the fact that Elon has made many a promise then gotten cold feet.

The Military Is Resuming the Diversity Training That Trump Banned

On his first day in office, President Joe Biden signed an executive order that revoked Trump's order.

www.military.com

He oversaw the reintroduction of what we all refer to as "wokeism".
There is no place in the Military for it. That's a big part of why nobody will join.
They recruit from the incorrect groups to "diversify" and then the actual soldiers leave because they have to carry the slack of these numpties.

I actually think he was well qualified initially, but after Afghan, the current cabinet needs to be fired. Starting at the top.

People literally were left to hang off the side off planes and fall to their death. That entire clusterf#ck is worse than any of the other stupid stuff done in recent Military history. You can't have a worse example. They literally advanced the Taliban from primitive makeshift IEDs to Helicopters and NVG overnight.
The Taliban didn't have IR(Infrared) capable NVG until that moment. It was the main way that US and Allied forces were able to win in country.

 

[TJ Dillashank]

Do you think that's comparable organizational experience to running a department the size of DoD? There's a reason most appointees for the position are usually flag rank at some time prior.

I think that there will be more competent people to do the but acting like hes just a fox news host is dishonest

 

[TJ Dillashank]

Do you think that's comparable organizational experience to running a department the size of DoD? There's a reason most appointees for the position are usually flag rank at some time prior.

With that said I also think political correctness has made a mockery of the current military and the focus needs to br brought back to international strength

 

[avenue94]

He oversaw the reintroduction of what we all refer to as "wokeism".
There is no place in the Military for it. That's a big part of why nobody will join.
They recruit from the incorrect groups to "diversify" and then the actual soldiers leave because they have to carry the slack of these numpties.

Do you have any evidence of this, as opposed to just vibes? It seems much more likely that people that recruiting numbers were down because unemployment was so low and non-officer compensation wasn't competitive with the civilian labor market.

I actually think he was well qualified initially, but after Afghan, the current cabinet needs to be fired. Starting at the top.

People literally were left to hang off the side off planes and fall to their death. That entire clusterf#ck is worse than any of the other stupid stuff done in recent Military history. You can't have a worse example. They literally advanced the Taliban from primitive makeshift IEDs to Helicopters and NVG overnight.
The Taliban didn't have IR(Infrared) capable NVG until that moment. It was the main way that US and Allied forces were able to win in country.

I mean...I'd much rather be the US bungling its pullout from a failed country like Afghanistan after a disastrous occupation than Russia b leeding blood and pressure in the meat grinder that's Ukraine. Do you feel otherwise?

If Austin had been fired as a scapegoat, I would have had no problem with it. But he didn't, and it seems odd to opt for a uniquely inexperienced candidate as an attempt to improve DoD.

I think that there will be more competent people to do the but acting like hes just a fox news host is dishonest

What experience does he have to essentially be CEO of an org with 3 million employees and almost a trillion dollar budget? The Fox News angle is important because it's the only reason Trump wants him. Let's be real, if he had all his current qualifications but never went on Fox News or acted as a surrogate for Trump, do you think Trump would have picked him?

 

[avenue94]

With that said I also think political correctness has made a mockery of the current military and the focus needs to br brought back to international strength

And yet here we are with the most powerful military the world has ever seen. What military would you model the US after at this point?

 

[maximus__]

Recruiting goals are based on Ukraine and Israel. I'm not sure why you would think that. If the US is going to step up military spending, who's supposed to man and crew all these new toys?

You act like keeping Austin on was ever an option lol. And like I said: the common thread with Trump's appointees is their devotion to him above all else, no consideration given to actual experience or ability. DEI you might say.

Are their big companies where a the executive board was overly deferential to the chief executive succeeded? These companies are usually the ones that end up fucked due to bad accounting or mismanagement. It seems you're more interested in a burn it down approach and dumbing down governance that actually addressing the DoD's laundry list of shortcomings.

Why would they not base the current recruiting off the two most prominent wars with Allies involved?
Russia has historically been an adversary of the US. Russia and China have formed the basis of most Military training pre Afghan and Post Afghan.

The US funding of both is the only reason they are in the positions they are in. The guys who has been fired has mentioned that involvement and 100% they had a boots on ground approach ready to go in the event it needed to happen.

I don't think it was an option. I am making fun of Trump and how out there he can be sometimes.

I don't really care either way. I don't live in the US. I am just posting in a thread to be honest.

I just don;t think someone who thought it was a good idea to effectively arm the Taliban to save money, is capable of continuing in the role.
The Military has grossly overspent for years, why not try a different approach with some business people and see what happens.