Law Trump just pardoned 1.5k rioters and Proud Boys.....

Darkballs said:
Only in the instances where an incoming administration has promised to investigate those individuals for revenge for investigating them or performing their jobs as they were supposed to.
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So when Democrats pass laws to eliminate statutes of limitations during a limited time frame specifically to prosecute Trump, or go after him for paying back loans with interest for some obscure NYC laws that literally every single property developer in the city is guilty of, in an obvious political frame up for years, then they're just "doing their jobs," but even the possibility of Trump's team investigating them necessitates decades long blanket pardons?

Deluded leftoid projecting dishonestly again. The fact you can say this shit with a straight face is in and of itself a testament to your intellectual dishonesty as a human being and you should be embarrassed.
 
WoozyFailGuy said:
So when Democrats pass laws to eliminate statutes of limitations during a limited time frame specifically to prosecute Trump, or go after him for paying back loans with interest for some obscure NYC laws that literally every single property developer in the city is guilty of, in an obvious political frame up for years, then they're just "doing their jobs," but even the possibility of Trump's team investigating them necessitates decades long blanket pardons?

Deluded leftoid projecting dishonestly again. The fact you can say this shit with a straight face is in and of itself a testament to your intellectual dishonesty as a human being and you should be embarrassed.
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I'm sorry if the words of our founding fathers anger you. But no, trump being found guilty of tax fraud by claiming his tacky penthouse was 300% larger than it actually was, is not a justification for pardoning traitors.

You could always try crying about it though.
 
Darkballs said:
I'm sorry if the words of our founding fathers anger you. But no, trump being found guilty of tax fraud by claiming his tacky penthouse was 300% larger than it actually was, is not a justification for pardoning traitors.

You could always try crying about it though.
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Oh I have no problem with the idea of a pardon. Hell, even the idea of a blanket pardon can be argued. I'm not arguing the pardons should be nullified or anything. Your claim that "one side does its job, the other is retaliating," your intellectual dishonesty is what I take issue with.

No one is crying about anything here except libtard like yourself crying that a bunch of people get to see their families again after serving 4 years for participating in a riot, while you inwardly cheer on the fact that people burned down half the country for 6 months in 2020 with no repercussions.

You're pretty low on my totem pole of humanity overall, and I do hope you do some type of introspective thinking in the near future.
 
WoozyFailGuy said:
Oh I have no problem with the idea of a pardon. Hell, even the idea of a blanket pardon can be argued. I'm not arguing the pardons should be nullified or anything. Your claim that "one side does its job, the other is retaliating," your intellectual dishonesty is what I take issue with.
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Well we have dozens of examples of Trump threatening people who hurt his feelings with pointless investigations. Combine that with the fact that none of you can articulate any actual crimes, and anyone who's not a retard can tell the man is full of shit.

And there's an easy way for you to prove me wrong. Just give me a single shred of evidence for any crime committed by the Jan. 6th committee. You do that, and I'll take you seriously.

But when you just claimed in your last post that trumps tax fraud was for something....

WoozyFailGuy said:
every single property developer in the city is guilty of
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....I don't have much hope.
 
Cool Hand Luke said:
It's the very thing Trump as accused of in his role for J6.
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No, it really isn't.

What do you know about the Minnesota Freedom Fund?

How well do you understand the unconstitutionality of prohibitively high bail?

Bail is intended to incentivize appearance in court, that's all. It is not intended to keep people behind bars. If a suspect is dangerous, it's up to the judge to refuse bail.

A flight risk is meant to receive high bail (proportional to their resources), someone presenting danger is meant to be refused bail.

People donating to the MFF have absolutely no idea who is going to benefit from their donations.
 
MAGA logic
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Crickets when Trump pardons a guy who used a stun gun on a cop or the countless others who beat up hard working American police officers.
 
Darkballs said:
You support the pardoning of literal traitors.

That's even lamer than all the times you've quit arguments.
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I love how you keep saying everyone quits arguments, after you were called out for quitting arguments. You don't have to lie for attention. I'll come pour some water in your bowl.
 
44nutman said:
MAGA logic
Back the Blue!
Crickets when Trump pardons a guy who used a stun gun on a cop or the countless others who beat up hard working American police officers.
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Several posters, including myself, have said anybody who assaulted police officers that day should serve their sentence.
 
Loiosh said:
No, it really isn't.

What do you know about the Minnesota Freedom Fund?

How well do you understand the unconstitutionality of prohibitively high bail?

Bail is intended to incentivize appearance in court, that's all. It is not intended to keep people behind bars. If a suspect is dangerous, it's up to the judge to refuse bail.

A flight risk is meant to receive high bail (proportional to their resources), someone presenting danger is meant to be refused bail.

People donating to the MFF have absolutely no idea who is going to benefit from their donations.
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Hy boss, my comment wasn't directed at the bail issue, it was the first part if her post.
 
Loiosh said:
No, it really isn't.

What do you know about the Minnesota Freedom Fund?

How well do you understand the unconstitutionality of prohibitively high bail?

Bail is intended to incentivize appearance in court, that's all. It is not intended to keep people behind bars. If a suspect is dangerous, it's up to the judge to refuse bail.

A flight risk is meant to receive high bail (proportional to their resources), someone presenting danger is meant to be refused bail.

People donating to the MFF have absolutely no idea who is going to benefit from their donations.
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Which is why we have democratically elected judges decide what is appropriate bail instead of far left NGOs that believe the prison system should be abolished.
 
Mr Holmes said:
Which is why we have democratically elected judges decide what is appropriate bail instead of far left NGOs that believe the prison system should be abolished.
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if you thought your post made sense as a reply to his you are wrong.

As Loiosh rightly pointed out, it is the Court and Judge who determines who is eligible for bail release. The system does not want those people held in jail and everyone with any financial resources or help gets out. The NGO's that take in donations (like what Harris gave) are only helping those financially who have been approved for bail release and are not helping decide who gets bail.

The purpose is to provide some level of fairness so that two people accused of the exact same crime who are granted bail, does not see one, with money get out while the other does not, because he is broke. And thus they end up with very different punishment for the same accused crime.
 
ChosenOne said:
if you thought your post made sense as a reply to his you are wrong.

As Loiosh rightly pointed out, it is the Court and Judge who determines who is eligible for bail release. The system does not want those people held in jail and everyone with any financial resources or help gets out. The NGO's that take in donations (like what Harris gave) are only helping those financially who have been approved for bail release and are not helping decide who gets bail.

The purpose is to provide some level of fairness so that two people accused of the exact same crime who are granted bail, does not see one, with money get out while the other does not, because he is broke. And thus they end up with very different punishment for the same accused crime.
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Wrong, judges already factor in an individual's financial situation when deciding appropriate bail.
 
Mr Holmes said:
Wrong, judges already factor in an individual's financial situation when deciding appropriate bail.
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That is demonstrable false as bail is granted to a lot of people who are broke and who cannot get a bond and end up stuck in jail. Many rely on friends and family for bail and the judge is not asking for friends and family financial reports to determine the person will get it.

So again, a person with cash, who did the exact same crime gets out while a person with no money does not.
 
ChosenOne said:
That is demonstrable false as bail is granted to a lot of people who are broke and who cannot get a bond and end up stuck in jail. Many rely on friends and family for bail and the judge is not asking for friends and family financial reports to determine the person will get it.

So again, a person with cash, who did the exact same crime gets out while a person with no money does not.
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Its demonstrably true that judges adjust bail on a case by case basis. This is documented in every court case. Maybe you should just give it a rest.
 
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