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International Trump is Truly a Putin Cuck - Russia and Trump Says Ukraine Must Elect a New President as Part of a Peace Deal

HereticBD said:
Well, what dollar amount does it end at, if you just want to fund them indefinitely for a war they can't win?
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Highly unlikely in the trillions, both given how the aid works and because Russia can't keep it going forever. Their economy is on war time life support and they've sold off reserves to mitigate the effects.

As these negotiations are going it's looking to be giving Russia everything they want as well as saving their economy. They'll spend some time recovering and then pick their next target.
 
Squarechoke said:
Highly unlikely in the trillions, both given how the aid works and because Russia can't keep it going forever. Their economy is on war time life support and they've sold off reserves to mitigate the effects.
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Yeah, yeah, I've heard that since the first week of the war. Doesn't seem like Russia is abiding by the supposed consequences of fighting this war.
Squarechoke said:
As these negotiations are going it's looking to be giving Russia everything they want as well as saving their economy. They'll spend some time recovering and then pick their next target.
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Well, unless you truly push back on Russia with force, that will always be a possibility. They're not going anywhere. As per the negotiations, like it or not, Russia is going to set most of the terms. They're in the superior negotiating position. Unless Ukraine wants to continue the fight alone, or with the tea and crumpets the EU will supply them with, they have to deal.
 
HereticBD said:
Yeah, yeah, I've heard that since the first week of the war. Doesn't seem like Russia is abiding by the supposed consequences of fighting this war.

Well, unless you truly push back on Russia with force, that will always be a possibility. They're not going anywhere. As per the negotiations, like it or not, Russia is going to set most of the terms. They're in the superior negotiating position. Unless Ukraine wants to continue the fight alone, or with the tea and crumpets the EU will supply them with, they have to deal.
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The first is a nothing response that's also a straw man since I certainly haven't said it since the war started. You didn't seem to have any problems with the trillions commenter though, even though his own statement indicated that it would take over 45 years to reach those sums at this pace (and that's based on thinking the actual cost is much larger than it actually is).

They are only in a superior negotiating position because Trump is set on giving them what they want and they are currently only negotiating with the US. If the US went in with a more even base things could be at least a bit different. Trump really looks to be folding for Putin again, but we'll have to wait see what the actual outcome will be.
 
Seano said:
Well, seeing as no one seems to want it to end and we've already given them 65 billion since the start of the war, I'm not sure what you think is so outlandish.
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The fact that you have to multiply the number by over 30 to get into the very lowest qualified amount of "trillions".
 
brothir said:
The fact that you have to multiply the number by over 30 to get into the very lowest qualified amount of "trillions".
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So you think we stop sending them funds when exactly? Who's going to rebuild their country? Who's going to be the peacekeepers while they rebuild?
 
I like how Dementia Donny blamed Ukraine for being invaded by Russia.
I find it funny that MAGA thinks Trump is some sort of Alpha but he is constantly getting cucked by a guy who if he was not President of Russia, he could be a horse jockey.
I wonder if Trump privately calls Putin, his Short King!
 
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I can't believe Trump wanted Zelensky to sign over all of his country's natty resources. What in the actual fuck. This whole "peace talks" charade is next-level retarded.
 
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It was ALWAYS going to end this way. Which is why I was screaming that Ukraine should've accepted Putin's conditions for avoiding invasion from the start. The Donbas would had been independent too. Instead they got conned into this fight by the US and lost a generation of men and had their country ravaged in the process, all to end up right back where they started. Pretty fucked up for the US to allow this to happen to them all just to keep the arms industry churning.
 
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Think of it, a modestly successful comedian, Volodymyr Zelenskyy, talked the United States of America into spending $350 Billion Dollars, to go into a War that couldn’t be won, that never had to start, but a War that he, without the U.S. and “TRUMP,” will never be able to settle. The United...
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Is it Wednesday already!
 
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