Elections Trump is rigging the Republican primary, by not having one

[Confucamus]

The American people wanted Trump and voted him in. No need for Republicans to try finding a new candidate.

 

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@VivaRevolution

It's ok, they're shooting themselves in the foot with this.

It's very likely Trump will be a dead commodity by the time the election rolls around with all this mess going on. Depriving themselves of a primary just in case that happens means they're basically punting 2020.

This is pure delusion.

Trump is a live commodity and growing.

You will look forward to what kinds of lies will be used in his second term.

 

[hisandherpes]

Moar proof Murka is an oligarchy that zhits all over democracy.

democracy is a joke anyways

 

[D3thr0n3d K1ng]

democracy is a joke anyways

Agreed. Fascism is the best way.

 

[badascan]

We don't want Trump but can you imagine the extreme pushback from the black woman (who may or may not identify as a man) who's to be the next president? Zhe will double down on the perceived injustices and the inmates will completely be running the asylum...

 

[glenwo2]

Concession accepted.

 

[glenwo2]

Aww you guys are so cute.

@rearnakedchoke likes this.

 

[glenwo2]

Not that facts seem to matter at all, but 25% of incumbents seeking reelection have lost since 1900.

This thread is a thin veil to whine about Bernie though. You are very right about that

Really? Didn't know about that.


Can you provide a list of PRESIDENTIAL incumbents who lost since 1900? (or you could just provide a link to that so I can see)

25% is a pretty substantial number.

 

[glenwo2]

Agreed. Fascism is the best way.

Nancy Pelosi knows that for a fact.

 

[sambobeer]

What the hell are you on about? We all want Trump. Do you actually think anybody else would best him and replace him for 2020? The other party doesn’t even have an answer LOL

This is what is so pervasive on the right. You dont see people that arent aligned with you politically as your countrymen. Like at all. It doesnt matter what your side" does as long as the people you perceive as your enemy "the left" lose. Its crazy. You'll forgive any misgiving so long as there is an R next to their name.

 

[sambobeer]

"so what if my elected officials are denigrating my ability to participate in democracy, it means we own the libtards"

I really just dont get giving up so much just to win a fight that doesnt even really exist.

 

[Limit Smasher]

This is what is so pervasive on the right. You dont see people that arent aligned with you politically as your countrymen. Like at all. It doesnt matter what your side" does as long as the people you perceive as your enemy "the left" lose. Its crazy. You'll forgive any misgiving so long as there is an R next to their name.

It's the exact same for both sides and it's sad. The majority of Democrats are willing right now to vote for a 76 year old suspected phile with obvious dementia just because they think he can beat Trump.

 

[sambobeer]

It's the exact same for both sides and it's sad. The majority of Democrats are willing right now to vote for a 76 year old suspected phile with obvious dementia just because they think he can beat Trump.

I dont disagree with you, but this is total whataboutery. They're both bad, and both "sides" should feel bad

 

[Limit Smasher]

I dont disagree with you, but this is total whataboutery. They're both bad, and both "sides" should feel bad

I don't care what it's called. It's just my response to your post strictly calling out "the right" for this nonsense. It's not party specific. Everyone seems to be putting their own best interests aside just so "their team" can win.

 

[7437]

Really? Didn't know about that.


Can you provide a list of PRESIDENTIAL incumbents who lost since 1900? (or you could just provide a link to that so I can see)

25% is a pretty substantial number.

I had to look it up. Still 75% win rate is pretty severe.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wa...-five-incumbent-presidents-who-lost?_amp=true

14 wins and 5 losses for incumbents.

OldBush, Carter, Ford, Hoover, and Taft.

I'd always assumed it was even more in favor of the incumbents too.

 

[glenwo2]

I had to look it up. Still 75% win rate is pretty severe.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonexaminer.com/the-five-incumbent-presidents-who-lost?_amp=true

14 wins and 5 losses for incumbents.

OldBush, Carter, Ford, Hoover, and Taft.

I'd always assumed it was even more in favor of the incumbents too.

Thanks for that.

Not saying Trump becomes loss # 6 since the Dems don't have anyone worth shit to challenge him but it's very interesting to see it's not as rare as we thought.

 

[7437]

Thanks for that.

Not saying Trump becomes loss # 6 since the Dems don't have anyone worth shit to challenge him but it's very interesting to see it's not as rare as we thought.

He could be. It's a bit hard to compare him with previous races.

 

[Trotsky]

It is the presidential election itself that promotes the formation of two large parties. Nothing else in our system gives a stronger incentive to forming two large mega parties than most parliamentary systems. I don't see it as much of a problem.

Uhh, no. It's not the presidential election that promotes the formation of two large parties.

It's the single member district plurality voting system broken down rigidly by geographic district that leads to two parties. Because in each district, the highest vote-getter receives all the electoral benefit, regardless of whether they received 20% or 100% of the vote. That creates a much, much stronger incentive to monopolize votes than a proportionally representative parliamentary system in which each party receives seats relatively equal to their vote share, regardless of plurality status.

 

[44nutman]

Smart move by the GOP. You don’t want a real conservative talk about family values and balanced budgets. Trumpublicans would Have to listen to Trumps Multiple Trillion Dollar Deficits being a talking point. The media never brings it up and last thing you need is a candidate with no chance to win talking about it.

 

[ObamaPhoneLady]

This is what is so pervasive on the right. You dont see people that arent aligned with you politically as your countrymen. Like at all. It doesnt matter what your side" does as long as the people you perceive as your enemy "the left" lose. Its crazy. You'll forgive any misgiving so long as there is an R next to their name.

Oh fuck off. The left is just as guilty of this.