Opinion Trump is not the problem.

HereticBD said:
And you would've called any other candidate the same names you called Trump. It's not like the Dems haven't run the same game on every single Republican candidate for the last 30 years. It's why people are tuning you chicken little's out.
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That’s not the argument, and check my post history, I supported several republicans over Biden. So either stfu and worry about your country, or pay attention, I don’t care which.
 
Why do Liberals continue to try and drag their echo chamber onto this site?

As far as I can see, very few on here label Trump as a 'problem'. Post this on Reddit or some other weird mental illness-fuelled site.
 
Mr Holmes said:
Most Americans never got a chance to vote in the GOP primary.
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I get that, and we gots that 2 party system. I’m not refuting your point about the choice between Trump and the Kamala. It’s not my choice, but I get it. In the end we (you and me and I suspect a lot of other posters here) got stuck with a shit sammy, and it is not because of the smart voters on either side.
 
Spam On Rye said:
You're unable to engage with the topic of yr own thread.
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There is no point in engaging with intellectual midgets who isn’t civil and doesn't maintain an incoherent worldview. Go scream at the clouds or something.
 
Possum Jenkins said:
What? No I didn't, you got me confused.

I said from the moment Harris got the nomination that it was a toss up. Even when Harris made some gains and 80% of right wingers here were pre-emptively crying about how "it's all set up" for her to win, I still had it as pretty much 50-50.

And of course you're going to distort progressive positions, I can do the same for conservative ones. But the reality is, policy only matters a little. If they were everything, Bernie would have been a two-term president already. Candidate personality, charisma and likability matter a ton.

Good luck getting all the bearded, Oakley wearers to rally behind this guy:

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I am sorry you can't grow a beard.
 
HereticBD said:
According to who? Are you still in pre-election mode, where you thought calling him "weird" and "couch fucker" really hit home?
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Well, pre-election opinion polls are all we have at this point.

I'm sure he'll magically turn it around once in office though.
 
EL CORINTHIAN said:
Because Covid. No one voted for Biden, they voted against Trump.
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It still shows that Democrats can win with an establishment, only mildly charismatic guy.

Republicans only win with an outrageous clown saying crazy shit. Good luck replicating that in 2028.
 
Possum Jenkins said:
It still shows that Democrats can win with an establishment, only mildly charismatic guy.

Republicans only win with an outrageous clown saying crazy shit. Good luck replicating that in 2028.
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Oh sure........ the race riots, leftist media and tech platforms propaganda machine, global pandemic and lockdown had nothing to do with it.

It was mildly charismatic Joe, that's all.

This is why people call you guys delusional.
 
Possum Jenkins said:
It still shows that Democrats can win with an establishment, only mildly charismatic guy.

Republicans only win with an outrageous clown saying crazy shit. Good luck replicating that in 2028.
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ROFL?? that's the only reason??

Trump already won twice buddy if we are lucky we can overturn the constitution and have him win a 3rd time
 
Possum Jenkins said:
Well, pre-election opinion polls are all we have at this point.

I'm sure he'll magically turn it around once in office though.
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He already did turn it around. Once your stupid lies and allegations about him were dispelled, most agreed that he was a great pick and a positive for Trump's ticket. Even Democrats had to cope and resort to calling him a "smooth talker" after he started killing it on the campaign. Ironically enough, Tim Walz ended up being the "weird" guy.
 
The problem is the political system. The fact that people are desperate enough to vote for Trump because they believe he may be the only person that actually says what they believe, rather than the constant flood of fake political simulacrums that every other politician seems to be.

People still venerate Obama despite the absolute fact that he (without Congress) initiated invasions and wars that caused massive amounts of death, despair, open air slavery, massive displacements of people, etc. The same actions people call Putin the worst person in the world; people seem to not care at all when Obama did it. It's so hypocritical and most people subconsciously realize this and it causes weird cognitive dissonances amongst the population that manifest in various different ways. I think Trump is simply a product of that.
 
payton said:
There is no point in engaging with intellectual midgets who isn’t civil and doesn't maintain an incoherent worldview. Go scream at the clouds or something.
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Intellectual midgets who isn’t civil? Lmao.

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payton said:
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Take Trump out of the picture, and there would be somebody else taking his place; we can't think of who that is because Trump is taking up all the oxygen in the room rn. Trump is no worse than any other Republican in office.
Both the forces that define the Trump movement - the conservatives gradually rejecting the idea of a liberal democracy and a christo-fascist reaction to the changing social order - were present in the world way before Trump entered the scene as a "legitimate" political faction in 2015, so there's no reason why they won't be present in a non-trivial way if and when Trump goes.

The goal of conservatives hasn't really changed since the French Revolution: they want a society where a white Christian king (or whatever title is in style at the time) rules over a bunch of rich white male property owners who themselves rule over their families and employees.

Trump was the perfect choice. He captured conservatives rage over having a black liberal family in the White House and harnessed it to snuggle himself in the primaries. And the white christians rallied behind him because he had come out early and often making racially coded attacks at Obama, which earned him their respect.

Trump is such a wild person to be the face of Christian nationalism. I didn’t expect it to be a guy who owns casinos and who commits sexual assaults and brags about it, who brags about invading the changing rooms of Miss Teen contestants, who says weird creepy things about the attractiveness of his own daughter’s body, who’s on his third wife and hasn’t been faithful to any of them, who constantly boasts about his wealth, who seems entirely unfamiliar with the Bible, who claims Presbyterianism but cannot recite the Apostles’ Creed, etc..
I thought this would come, but in the form of a more traditional conservative Christian type but somehow it worked.

Tump is a symptom not the cause and this has been going on for a long, long time.
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You dumbasses still don't understand why Kamala lost...

lol
 
It will be so cool. Project 25 is going to deport all the atheists so we can achieve the foretold prophecies. Then Trump will drink from the fountain of eternal life, and God will proclaim him his son.
 
HereticBD said:
And? It's a factor of why the Democrats are where they are right now. A big one. Just because you want to ignore it out of convenience, doesn't make it go away. It's by far gonna be the Democrats biggest obstacle in gaining back relevance. You just had a majority of House Dems vote against deporting illegal immigrants who commit violent crimes. A majority of them also just voted against keeping biological men out of women's sports. Stupid shit like that, is why Democrats and the left in general, are going to become more and more irrelevant as the years go by.


More denial. Do you actually believe the culture war is irrelevant to elections? Of course you do, because you're losing it.
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No, I think the culture war stuff is very relevant. It’s easy to get people like you worked about trannies and whatever the fuck since you don’t have much going on. You’ll claim it’s about “protecting women” but then cheerlead for people like Matt Gaetz and Herschel Walker being appointed.

But understanding how grocery prices and healthcare actually impact people on a daily basis requires actual critical thinking and legislation. And we just voted for a guy promising to drench everything in tariffs and who had 12 yrs to come up with a concepts of a plan for healthcare.

The tables will always turn. People will realize that MAGA can’t cure “wokeness”, he didn’t in 2016 and there are bigger issues in the world than a Disney casting that you don’t like. At the end of the day, Trump is an oaf, there is a reason why many people feel ashamed and self conscious for voting for him…
 
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