Social Trump Going After Academic Autonomy

You are usually a pretty intelligent and level headed person, which is why I chose to address and respond to you with some detail. But if that's how you are responding, I think this is going nowhere.
You say that and have the gall to say in a previous post:
Of course, a bunch of inbred racist and homophone morons will applaud these resources being shut down from the university.
So because someone opposes DEI they are an "inbred, racist and homophone moron", and then you soy out when someone returns the same level of response back to you. Even though these policies are literally made based on race (aka, it's a racist policy) and other immutable characteristics

Even though these DEI policies have been shown to disproportionately hurt Asian Americans, who are an even bigger minority than Hispanic or Black Americans. And before you say some off-topic thing like "well Hispanics are disadvantaged", you can refer to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_continents_by_GDP#Continents_by_GDP_per_capita_(PPP) and see that GDP per capita in PPP terms (one of the best measures of standard of living we have) is lower in Asia than in South America as a whole. So there is little reason that immigrants from Asia would be worse off than ones from Hispanic countries.
 
Everyday more and more bullshit comes out from this administration, and at this point it literally has to be just the bigoted people that still support Trump. Everything is so fucked.
Cry harder, snowflake. I just looooooove to see it!
 
Conservatives are not well represented in higher education because the Leftists that run it discriminate based on ideology. The studies and admissions of the professors was very clear. You stated the exact opposite.

The studies show that discrimination and selective criteria based on political ideology exist and are in practice today in American universities. That does not explain how or why the universities and academic expert culture came to be overwhelmingly left winged in representation since the modern period and until today. Across the globe, disciplines, and academic establishment, as well as scientific communities. These are different orders of explanation. They are not exclusive. If you think this has nothing to do with the relation between intellectual liberty and censorship at the hands of conservatism in history, I don't know what to tell you.

The statistics you show are worrying. The question is how we got there, and what we should do to correct this. What the government is doing is worsening the impression that conservatisms function as a retrograde agency for censorship, against academic liberty, and with overt racist agendas. I explained why.

I fully acknowledge that today there are discriminatory practices against conservatives, and I said so and pointed to as much. Including my own case, which as I mentioned had to do with endorsing parts of neoreactionary politics.

You are being unnecessarily obtuse.
 
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You say that and have the gall to say in a previous post:

So because someone opposes DEI they are an "inbred, racist and homophone moron", and then you soy out when someone returns the same level of response back to you. Even though these policies are literally made based on race (aka, it's a racist policy) and other immutable characteristics

Even though these DEI policies have been shown to disproportionately hurt Asian Americans, who are an even bigger minority than Hispanic or Black Americans. And before you say some off-topic thing like "well Hispanics are disadvantaged", you can refer to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_continents_by_GDP#Continents_by_GDP_per_capita_(PPP) and see that GDP per capita in PPP terms (one of the best measures of standard of living we have) is lower in Asia than in South America as a whole. So there is little reason that immigrants from Asia would be worse off than ones from Hispanic countries.

I didn't say that anyone who opposes DEI is an inbred, racist homophone moron. I said that there will be people like that who applaud the closing of these programs. The point being, that a lot of people oppose these programs because of blind bigotry, not because of any actual informed reason.

This was at the end of giving examples of the kind of events and work these departments do, and saying many people who oppose DEI departments do so without knowing the first thing about them in practice.
 
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It is well known that the large majority of academy faculty is progressive-liberal leaning, in literally every field of study, across all states and institutions, public or private. Many are independent, many are centrists. Few are republican.


In an attempt to try to police university autonomy and try to directly intervene admissions and hiring policy, and the operation of university life by student and community organizations, the government is threatening major educational institutions to pull funding unless several demands are met.


They want a reduction of the power of students and untenured faculty, faculty who engages in activism, and among tenured faculty giving prerogatives to senior faculty those who abide to the guidelines of the government.

"Harvard must make meaningful governance reform and restructuring to make possible major change consistent with this letter, including: fostering clear lines of authority and accountability; empowering tenured professors and senior leadership, and, from among the tenured professoriate and senior leadership, exclusively those most devoted to the scholarly mission of the University and committed to the changes indicated in this letter; reducing the power held by students and untenured faculty; reducing the power held by faculty (whether tenured or untenured) and administrators more committed to activism than scholarship"

Adjunct faculty, as is well known, are the most vulnerable economically in the academy, and work as contractual workers who are closely associated with unions and the most active members of syndicate struggles for what is truly a grossly underpaid sector of our education system (look at the salaries of adjunct professors and you will hardly believe what you see). And of course, by "those who engage more in activism than research" we know what they mean.

Additional provisions include, predictably, the dismantling of all DEI divisions, regardless of any assessment of performance or services provided, with no data or evaluation given with regard to why they are being forced to be shut down, and no indication as to how the services currently provided can be replaced or met otherwise. Of course, these are not only providing services for minorities, but are tracking active cases of racism, bigotry, abuse in campuses.

Admissions procedures are supposed to be 'meritocratically' decided and assessed by the government, ruling out criteria based on race, ethnicity, gender, or nationality. Of course, overwhelmingly, foreign students are against American republicanism, as are racial and gender minority groups. No indication of how metrics of evaluation (which are obviously field-discipline dependent) are supposed to function across hundreds of thousands of applicants and dozens of different expert disciplines by the Department of Education.

Needless to say, anyone with a morsel of cognitive prowess understands that this is not about meritocracy at all, which is a laudable ideal (which I agree has been lost in the American education system to worrying degrees), but rather about ideological control. Absolutely nothing, not one single sentence, describes any policy or measure proposed by the government to strengthen research and educational opportunities for students and faculty.

It is true that the universities (particularly the humanities) have strayed quite close to specific paradigms of research and thought that are very strongly sympathetic to contemporary leftist progressivism, like gender studies, literature departments, and cultural studies; but these cases, which compose the majority of the humanities and arts, represent (also worryingly) a relatively small sector of the academy, which has nothing to do with the work of the sciences and other fields like economics, medicine, law, etc. The 'woke' humanities are in actuality an extremely fringe phenomenon.

The proof? There is one exception to the pseudo-meritocratic standard that allows for discrimination:

They seek to enforce what is called viewpoint diversity. This obviously doesn't mean bringing in people who hold different views about quantum mechanics, or divergent views about epistemology in philosophy, Marxist and Liberal theories in economics, or making psychology departments equal parts behavioral and cognitive. Certainly not diverse viewpoints on the role of American interventionism or millitary support to Israel. That's not what they want.

What this means in this document is that they are trying to force hiring committees to bring in conservative-leaning faculty.

Put simply: the government wants to control the admissions and hiring procedure of every department and faculty, to turn it into a politically sympathetic domain. Of course, nothing is said about who would be carrying these evaluations or auditing, or how they propose to have experts for every single specialty and department. No indication of the criteria for evaluation either. It is evidently an attempt to try to gain ideological control over the academy by seizing their autonomy.

And last but not least, the forced dismantling of every single pro-Palestinian and Human Rights organizations, again hiring auditors to ensure compliance to the preservation of school order and American values.

It is worthy of note to see just exactly which institutions are being targeted.

"August 2025, the University shall commission an external party, which shall satisfy the federal government as to its competence and good faith, to audit those programs and departments that most fuel antisemitic harassment or reflect ideological capture. The programs, schools, and centers of concern include but are not limited to the Divinity School, Graduate School of Education, School of Public Health, Medical School, Religion and Public Life Program, FXB Center for Health & Human Rights, Center for Middle Eastern Studies, Carr Center for Human Rights at the Harvard Kennedy School, Department of Near Eastern Languages and Cultures, and the Harvard Law School International Human Rights Clinic."

These are not just organizations of Palestinian students or Muslim adherents. They represent every single Human Rights and Public Health organization in the university, which are unanimously against the Israeli intervention in Gaza (as is every single international human rights agency in the world). Because, of course, being against the Israeli role in Gaza is, somehow, to be "anti-American" and "pro-Hamas", which is to say pro-terrorist.

Not a single similar provision is indicated or even recommended for Islamophobic institutions or actions in campuses targeted against the discrimination of other groups or minorities.

If Harvard does not comply to these demands, federal funding is threatened to be pulled by the billions. If this doesn't work, as Harvard seems to be playing hardball, accreditation hurdles will follow. The same is to be expected for every major university in the country, and then some.

The actual result? A decimation of departmental stability leading to the paralysis of research, admissions, and hirings. And a massive flight of intellectual capital from the end of both prospective students, faculty, and researchers.

I am at UCLA and also work at CSUSB and CalArts, and have colleagues and relatives in Cornell, NYU, New School, Berkeley, Princeton, Duke, and other institutions.

Most departments have essentially frozen all hirings for faculty until further notice. Many have rescinded offers from graduate students. All the hirings at the atmospheric science department at UCLA, for instance, have been suspended, and grants for research have across the board been paralyzed. Adjunct professors are in limbo across the board.

Since funding is completely up in the air and departments face a future of extreme economic and political volatility, facing censorship, intellectual control, and precarious funding, research initiatives are freezing and the academic labor market which was already in shambles is now further agonizing. Columbia already gave in.

The situation is even worse at public-state universities, which do not have the immense philanthropic revenue of institutions like Harvard or Columbia. In California, Sonoma, CSULB, and CSUSB, among others, are closing down departments and undertaking massive layoffs since the economic prospects have wilted. Across the board, researchers and prospective students are looking elsewhere since the future of the American academy, and intellectual freedom, is jeopardized.

Of course, there will be imbecilic, racist, homophobe shills who snort everything this government does who will applaud this as part of the amazing plan to make education "safe from woke ideology," and rooted in meritocratic American values.
In an "attempt to try to police university autonomy" lol...

I love the way you leftists try to distort your bullshit arguments by using what you think is powerful phrasing. Like I said, I'm just so effing happy you are so salty about Trump being president. It's just fills my hear with joy.
 
In an "attempt to try to police university autonomy" lol...

I love the way you leftists try to distort your bullshit arguments by using what you think is powerful phrasing. Like I said, I'm just so effing happy you are so salty about Trump being president. It's just fills my hear with joy.

"It's just fills my hear with joy."

Good job there, champ.

It fills my heart with sadness that you can't even write properly.
 
Everyday more and more bullshit comes out from this administration, and at this point it literally has to be just the bigoted people that still support Trump. Everything is so fucked.

Such a deep, fascinating analysis. Breathtaking stuff.
 
Eh . Seems fair enough. Although fuck all forms of representative quotas when its anything merit based
 
The studies show that discrimination and selective criteria based on political ideology exist and are in practice today in American universities. That does not explain how or why the universities and academic expert culture came to be overwhelmingly left winged in representation since the modern period and until today. Across the globe, disciplines, and academic establishment, as well as scientific communities. These are different orders of explanation. They are not exclusive. If you think this has nothing to do with the relation between intellectual liberty and censorship at the hands of conservatism in history, I don't know what to tell you.

The statistics you show are worrying. The question is how we got there, and what we should do to correct this. What the government is doing is worsening the impression that conservatisms function as a retrograde agency for censorship, against academic liberty, and with overt racist agendas. I explained why.

I fully acknowledge that today there are discriminatory practices against conservatives, and I said so and pointed to as much. Including my own case, which as I mentioned had to do with endorsing parts of neoreactionary politics.

You are being unnecessarily obtuse.
I've often wondered why leftistism runs so rampant at top universities. It's really mind-boggling. Many of these people are incredibly smart in certain areas, but when it comes to politics, they are just insufferably ignorant buffoons. Reality is just too much for these fuckheads so they will fight tooth and nail to hold on to the idea that equity is the end goal of all "dignified" and "civilized" societies. It's unbelievable.

The good news is that America has caught on to what trash most universities have become when it comes to most liberal arts.
 
Just for example, these are some of the programs and events that have been recently hosted by DEI at CSUSB.



These are some of the resources:

Of course, a bunch of inbred racist and homophone morons will applaud these resources being shut down from the university.


It's funny when libs use 'inbred' as an insult. Are you saying inbred people are inferior? But I thought we were all equal? And you know which demographic is the most inbred in the world, don't you?
 
I've often wondered why leftistism runs so rampant at top universities. It's really mind-boggling. Many of these people are incredibly smart in certain areas, but when it comes to politics, they are just insufferably ignorant buffoons. Reality is just too much for these fuckheads so they will fight tooth and nail to hold on to the idea that equity is the end goal of all "dignified" and "civilized" societies. It's unbelievable.

The good news is that America has caught on to what trash most universities have become when it comes to most liberal arts.

Maybe if you actually read a book in your life instead of being a proudly ignorant moron you'd find some answers to your questions.
 
It's funny when libs use 'inbred' as an insult. Are you saying inbred people are inferior? But I thought we were all equal? And you know which demographic is the most inbred in the world, don't you?

You thought we were all equal? Then I have a bridge to sell you.
 
It's pure projection at this point.

The executive branch of the government wants to "abolish DEI" but at the same time they're telling universities they need to hire token conservative administrators and scholars who were not able to land these positions based on their actual merits.


It's the opposite of meritocracy. It's affirmative action for underqualified conservatives.
WEI hires
 
You thought we were all equal? Then I have a bridge to sell you.

I thought that? No junior, that's what the left says. Nothing to do with me. Keep up. The left says we're all equal. That's what their entire ideology is based on. Gonna play dumb and pretend it isn't, eh?
 
I'm not sure where I land on this issue. trump is a can though so I'm sure whatever he does here will backfire.
 
I thought that? No junior, that's what the left says. Nothing to do with me. Keep up. The left says we're all equal. That's what their entire ideology is based on. Gonna play dumb and pretend it's not now, eh?

Right, the left thinks there are no differences between individuals, social groups, cultures, economic classes, genders, and so on.

Which is why, of course, Marx didn't think such a thing as class struggle existed, or feminists do not believe gender and sex discrimination exist, or race activists do not believe differences based on race exist. Or postcolonial theories do not believe there is any difference between colonizer and colonized.

And of course, Diversity Equity and Inclusion divisions, being left winged creations, are actively denying that any differences exist between human beings. Their central claim is that Diversity is in fact a myth.

The level of stupidity in these forums is truly astonishing.
 
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