International Trump forced Israel to negotiate with Hamas

[cincymma79]

This format sucks if nobody has mentioned it

 

[Cool Hand Luke]

This format sucks if nobody has mentioned it

can we blame elon?

 

[kflo]

can we blame elon?

i think it was a brilliant ploy to get us doggies to see past our differences and rally together on common ground. it's been beautiful.......

 

[Spam On Rye]

you should do a little digging into Trump's behind the scenes thoughts on Israel and the way they influence and govern. You may be surprised at how even handed he actually is on Israel.

I'm well aware of Trump's relations with the chosen ones. Not saying he can't do good things on that front but ultimately he is coming from the dispensationalist paradigm that has infected the west. And once you get on that train, there's no getting off.

 

[ShadowRun]

6 week agreement
33 hostages will be release
The Trump effect

 

[ShadowRun]

 

[Corona]

Goatnald getting shit done

 

[ShadowRun]

Goatnald getting shit done

He’s getting more done then the sitting president lol

 

[CantCucktheTuck]

Amazing

 

[Rational Poster]

Good to see the hostage released but I don't think the cease fire will last.

 

[syct23]

He’s getting more done then the sitting president lol

I guess that means LA falls on trumps watch as well, since he is currently president?

 

[Madmick]

Pretty obvious what Donald did.

He simultaneously terrified Hamas with his "hell to pay" comment, which they obviously believed, they didn't want to test it, and for good reason, he meant it, while terrifying Israel with the prospect that he wouldn't hesitate to seize the opportunity to score big with his America-first base by deciding that maybe we wouldn't be sending over $13bn-$80bn this year in aid packages.

It's amazing how amenable Israel and Hamas become when they're terrified of consequences. Well done, Trump.

 

[cottagecheesefan]

crazy what competent, focused leadership can accomplish compared to weekend at Bernie’s shit from the last 4 years.

You love to see it.

 

[Rational Poster]

Pretty obvious what Donald did.

He simultaneously terrified Hamas with his "hell to pay" comment, which they obviously believed, they didn't want to test it, and for good reason, he meant it, while terrifying Israel with the prospect that he wouldn't hesitate to seize the opportunity to score big with his America-first base by deciding that maybe we wouldn't be sending over $13bn-$80bn this year in aid packages.

It's amazing how amenable Israel and Hamas become when they're terrified of consequences. Well done, Trump.

This seems a bit charitable, Hamas doesn't really have anything to lose, they're already in hell and have been there for months. I doubt Trump's threats changed much, Israel seemed to be more unwilling to negotiate in recent weeks since they have all the advantages. Trump's team negotiating with Netanyahu was definitely what got the deal finally completed.

 

[moreorless87]

What really could Hamas be threatened with beyond what was happening anyway? seems like the threat was much more to the Israeli's who have been the ones who have scuppered negations repeatedly.

If someone as historically pro Israeli as Trump did this and really it makes the Biden admin look not only hideously weak but also strong complicate in the war crimes of the last 15 months.

 

[ShadowRun]

What really could Hamas be threatened with beyond what was happening anyway? seems like the threat was much more to the Israeli's who have been the ones who have scuppered negations repeatedly.

If someone as historically pro Israeli as Trump did this and really it makes the Biden admin look not only hideously weak but also strong complicate in the war crimes of the last 15 months.

Yea their weakness enabled Oct 7th

 

[ShadowRun]

I guess that means LA falls on trumps watch as well, since he is currently president?

Sure maybe the state will finally listen to the things he said for the last 7 years about Forrest management, illegals etc …

 

[terrapin]

On its face I have to give Trump tons of credit for ceasing the sickening genocide that is happening to the Palestinian people. Biden should have done this a few weeks after the Israelis started their genocide

I'm not sure I'm going to like the deal that he helps negotiate between Israel and the Palestinians because I think Trump is pro- Israel but compared to Biden allowing this to happen on his watch, which is the single worst thing I've ever seen in my lifetime. It's the most positive thing I've seen in 4 years.

It also shows that bringing Israel to heel is the easiest thing to do in the world if that's what you actually want to do.

The site sucks by the way and is almost unusable on my mobile.

 

[SKYNET]

Trump's team negotiating with Netanyahu was definitely what got the deal finally completed.

 

[Rational Poster]

Sure maybe the state will finally listen to the things he said for the last 7 years about Forrest management, illegals etc …

He going to do anything about the 50 million acres of federal land this time considering he was in charge for 4 of those 7 years?