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Elections Trump Cabinet Appointment - TRACKER

Rob Battisti said:
Secretary of Health and Human Services - Robert Kennedy Jr.
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This is a disaster. This is the worst cabinet appointment in my lifetime, hands down.

I'm generally neutral on RFK, indifferent really, but for this specific job....wow. Just wow. Atrocious. Maybe the only pick that would be worse that comes to mind is Dr. Andrew Wakefield himself. But not even that, really. I mean, shit, at least Wakefield earned a medical degree.
 
Just saw on Question Time a comment about Caesar appointing his horse to the Senate lol
 
Madmick said:
This is a disaster. This is the worst cabinet appointment in my lifetime, hands down.

I'm generally neutral on RFK, indifferent really, but for this specific job....wow. Just wow. Atrocious. Maybe the only pick that would be worse that comes to mind is Dr. Andrew Wakefield himself. But not even that, really. I mean, shit, at least Wakefield earned a medical degree.
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Fuck Wakefield.

Obviously.

But fuck him anyway.
 
Bill Kristol is having a meltdown so Trump's definitely doing something right.

 
Rob Battisti said:
Can you summarize why exactly it’s in our strategic national interest to be aggressively opposed to Russia? I still have a very hard time understanding why it’s so important.
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I’ll write a few paragraphs, but I’ll link to a Q&A with a guy named Hans Goemans, who is a political science professor who specializes in study of international conflicts. So, here goes.

The conflict here is not Russia vs Ukraine, it is Russia vs NATO. NATO was formed after WW2 in part to prevent the rise of militarism in Europe again, and preserve freedom, and Putin is trying to keep NATO nations and democratized nations from encircling him, and rebuild Russia into a superpower again.
Putin has said some pretty disturbing things recently: that the borders drawn by Stalin after WW2 are “invalid,” and that he (Putin) is trying to recreate the former Russian Empire.
Putin has annexed Crimea, Belarus, is attempting to annex Ukraine and there’s no reason to think he’ll stop.

In fact, if anyone thinks he *will* stop, recall that it wasn’t long ago that Ukraine gave up their nuclear weapons in exchange for Russia’s promise to respect their territorial integrity.
Clearly, Putin lied.
And this isn’t just about certain Ukrainian territory, Putin is trying to annex it all.
So if we think what we’re doing now is expensive, get ready for a massive arms race if Putin succeeds, as a whole bunch countries wonder if they are next. And if their name is Georgia, Moldova, Lithuania, Estonia, Latvia, or a bunch of others, then it’s a good bet they are.

More problematic is that these old Russian empire borders encompass Warsaw, Poland, a strong NATO ally of ours. Putin has also made threats towards Sweden and Finland for their having joined NATO.

TLDR: if we want to avoid massive casualties and catastrophe, renewed European militarism, threatens to a variety of our NATO allies and eventually the U.S. itself as a dominant superpower, we need to keep that bastard right where he is.


spamking said:
Having worked in HHS for going on 30 years, being an MD shouldn't really lend any credence to that pick IMO. Being ASH is a glorified PR position for the Commissioned Corps that completely backfired with the "first 4-star female" crap.
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Aside from just being an MD, she has a lengthy resume in all sorts of areas of public health (eating disorders, opioid crisis, all kinds of stuff). You find that irrelevant? It certainly has to be leagues better than having some brain-worm having, bear carcass dumping, vaccine misinformation spreading, CT-loving wingnut at the top end of the agency,
 
BFoe said:
TLDR: if we want to avoid massive casualties and catastrophe, renewed European militarism, threatens to a variety of our NATO allies and eventually the U.S. itself as a dominant superpower, we need to keep that bastard right where he is.
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This still feels like an “Eastern European” problem. Those countries provide exactly Jack and Shit for the USA. There is no scenario in which Putin attacks a NATO country.

He isn’t immortal and I still fail to see the direct impact on the USA.
 
Rob Battisti said:
This still feels like an “Eastern European” problem. Those countries provide exactly Jack and Shit for the USA. There is no scenario in which Putin attacks a NATO country.

He isn’t immortal and I still fail to see the direct impact on the USA.
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Yeah I sorta figured that’s what you’d say.
Don’t worry, I’m sure Trump I’ll sort of this all out with a very nice deal, one that even Neville Chamberlain would be proud of.
 
BFoe said:
Yeah I sorta figured that’s what you’d say.
Don’t worry, I’m sure Trump I’ll sort of this all out with a very nice deal, one that even Neville Chamberlain would be proud of.
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There is no strategic advantage for Putin to attack NATO. He is not immortal. If we can end the war by ceding territory, you’d say no?
 
The fix is in with that Gatez appointment, I guess Trump wasn't lying this time when he said he would fix it.

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Rob Battisti said:
There is no strategic advantage for Putin to attack NATO. He is not immortal. If we can end the war by ceding territory, you’d say no?
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I’d absolutely say no.
I don’t believe the conflict can be ended by ceding territory, because again, this is not a Russia vs Ukraine conflict. This is an attempt by Putin to rebuild an empire and maintain his political survival by not getting encircled by democratized nations.

He won’t attack a NATO nation directly for some time; it’ll be Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan, Armenia, Georgia, Moldova, Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, Turkmenistan, Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia…those countries. Poland would likely be the NATO ally he attacks eventually, and I’m not even much inclined to believe him that he’d only take the old Russian territory around Warsaw.

If you care to have the US remain the dominant superpower, and not have our European alliances imminently threatened, this is a conflict you want to stop now and not a dozen fallen countries from now.
 
BFoe said:
I’d absolutely say no.
I don’t believe the conflict can be ended by ceding territory, because again, this is not a Russia vs Ukraine conflict. This is an attempt by Putin to rebuild an empire and maintain his political survival by not getting encircled by democratized nations.

He won’t attack a NATO nation directly for some time; it’ll be Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan, Armenia, Georgia, Moldova, Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, Turkmenistan, Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia…those countries. Poland would likely be the NATO ally he attacks eventually, and I’m not even much inclined to believe him that he’d only take the old Russian territory around Warsaw.

If you care to have the US remain the dominant superpower, and not have our European alliances imminently threatened, this is a conflict you want to stop now and not a dozen fallen countries from now.
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I find this very unbelievable
 
Rob Battisti said:
I find this very unbelievable
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I know.

Tbh, I’m not really sure why at this point. What’s unbelievable is to think that after taking Crimea, Belarus, occupying areas of Georgia and Moldova, invading Ukraine and illegally annexing their territories, that Putin is just gonna stop and say “ok thanks for a bit of land” if you give it to him. He won’t.
 
BFoe said:
I’ll write a few paragraphs, but I’ll link to a Q&A with a guy named Hans Goemans, who is a political science professor who specializes in study of international conflicts. So, here goes.

The conflict here is not Russia vs Ukraine, it is Russia vs NATO. NATO was formed after WW2 in part to prevent the rise of militarism in Europe again, and preserve freedom, and Putin is trying to keep NATO nations and democratized nations from encircling him, and rebuild Russia into a superpower again.
Putin has said some pretty disturbing things recently: that the borders drawn by Stalin after WW2 are “invalid,” and that he (Putin) is trying to recreate the former Russian Empire.
Putin has annexed Crimea, Belarus, is attempting to annex Ukraine and there’s no reason to think he’ll stop.

In fact, if anyone thinks he *will* stop, recall that it wasn’t long ago that Ukraine gave up their nuclear weapons in exchange for Russia’s promise to respect their territorial integrity.
Clearly, Putin lied.
And this isn’t just about certain Ukrainian territory, Putin is trying to annex it all.
So if we think what we’re doing now is expensive, get ready for a massive arms race if Putin succeeds, as a whole bunch countries wonder if they are next. And if their name is Georgia, Moldova, Lithuania, Estonia, Latvia, or a bunch of others, then it’s a good bet they are.

More problematic is that these old Russian empire borders encompass Warsaw, Poland, a strong NATO ally of ours. Putin has also made threats towards Sweden and Finland for their having joined NATO.

TLDR: if we want to avoid massive casualties and catastrophe, renewed European militarism, threatens to a variety of our NATO allies and eventually the U.S. itself as a dominant superpower, we need to keep that bastard right where he is.



Aside from just being an MD, she has a lengthy resume in all sorts of areas of public health (eating disorders, opioid crisis, all kinds of stuff). You find that irrelevant? It certainly has to be leagues better than having some brain-worm having, bear carcass dumping, vaccine misinformation spreading, CT-loving wingnut at the top end of the agency,
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When it comes to this particular person being the ASH? Yes. I find that irrelevant. Especially the way things were framed from a PR perspective. Both the SG and ASH should be filled from within the active duty ranks of the PHS.

The crap with Levine is one of the many reasons I retired and left the Commissioned Corps.

And as an FYI, the ASH and Secretary of HHS are two different positions.
 
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