Crime Trump Administration Sent Legal Immigrant to Prison in El Salvador

[ShadowRun]

Why won't the Trump administration let this guy have his day in court?

If he's guilty of what they are saying then they'll get their conviction and then incarcerate and/or deport him...

He's been to court 5 or 6 times in the last few months.

 

[DEVILsSON]

He's been to court 5 or 6 times in the last few months.

Has there been a jury trial?

He has been accused of some felonies, right? Why not let a jury hear it? Why not do it by the book?

 

[Blunderbuss]

Ive not been keeping up on the happenings in this, but I do have a genuine question

Why Uganda?

 

[ShadowRun]

Has there been a jury trial?

He has been accused of some felonies, right? Why not let a jury hear it? Why not do it by the book?

I'm not sure, I am guessing because he was suppose to be reported in 2019, is the thought process that its cheaper and better to deport him then to use the money on courts, jail ?

 

[Soggust]

Has there been a jury trial?

He has been accused of some felonies, right? Why not let a jury hear it? Why not do it by the book?

I believe that was for show to discredit his character. I don't think they want him criminally prosecuted.

The evidentiary standard in a deportation case is much lower than a criminal case. Also, if he gets a criminal record, I don't think he can be deported to Uganda.

 

[Limbo Pete]

Why Uganda?

So they can gloat

 

[avenue94]

Why won't the Trump administration let this guy have his day in court?

If he's guilty of what they are saying then they'll get their conviction and then incarcerate and/or deport him...

I honestly wonder how bad the damages will be from civil rights violations and slander when it's all said and done for a lot of these people. All self inflicted wounds that would of course be footed by the taxpayer because loudmouths wanted to do their talking on twitter instead of in court.

 

[DEVILsSON]

I'm not sure, I am guessing because he was suppose to be reported in 2019, is the thought process that its cheaper and better to deport him then to use the money on courts, jail ?

It just feels like the case is incredibly weak or outright bs.

Why spend so much political capital on some nobody rather than have him go through a trial, get convicted and then booted after his due process? This just feels like a repeated unforced error.

This is giving perception of an authoritarian regime repeatedly picking on some poor guy. Whereas if they convicted him on trafficking or whatever bs they claim he did then they could point to that and I doubt anyone would be defending a human trafficker.

 

[ShadowRun]

It just feels like the case is incredibly weak or outright bs.

Why spend so much political capital on some nobody rather than have him go through a trial, get convicted and then booted after his due process? This just feels like a repeated unforced error.

This is giving perception of an authoritarian regime repeatedly picking on some poor guy. Whereas if they convicted him on trafficking or whatever bs they claim he did then they could point to that and I doubt anyone would be defending a human trafficker.

Yea the admin error and doubling down on it isn't a good look, neither is trying to make him some "Maryland dad" hero.

I think they should let it play out like you're saying all though with political money and all that it will be tied up in court for awhile probably.

From AI with some of the events and time line.

Kilmar Abrego Garcia, a Salvadoran immigrant, was wrongfully deported to El Salvador in March 2025, despite a 2019 immigration judge’s order granting him withholding of removal due to fears of gang persecution. This deportation was ruled an “administrative error” by the U.S. government, and he was returned to the U.S. on June 6, 2025, to face federal charges of human smuggling in Tennessee.
He pleaded not guilty to two counts of conspiracy to unlawfully transport undocumented aliens for financial gain and unlawful transportation of undocumented aliens for financial gain, stemming from a 2022 traffic stop. His trial is pending, and he was released from pre-trial detention on August 22, 2025, to await trial in Maryland under electronic monitoring and home detention

• On Thursday, August 21, 2025, federal prosecutors offered Abrego Garcia a plea deal: if he agreed to remain in jail, plead guilty to the smuggling charges, and serve any resulting sentence, the U.S. would deport him to Costa Rica, where the Costa Rican government agreed to accept him as a refugee with legal status, ensuring he would not face detention.
  
  
  
  
• Abrego Garcia declined this deal, opting to maintain his not guilty plea and proceed to trial. On Friday, August 22, 2025, immediately after his release from Tennessee’s Putnam County Jail, ICE notified his attorneys via email at 4:01 p.m. that the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) intended to deport him to Uganda no earlier than 72 hours from that notice (excluding weekends), as per a Maryland court ruling requiring such notice.
  
  
  
  
• The notice stated: “Please let this email serve as notice that DHS may remove your client, Kilmar Armando Abrego Garcia, to Uganda no earlier than 72 hours from now (absent weekends).” His attorneys were also told he had until Monday morning, August 25, 2025, to accept the Costa Rica plea deal, or it would be “off the table foreve

Why Uganda?:

• U.S.-Uganda Deportation Agreement: The Trump administration recently negotiated a bilateral deportation agreement with Uganda to accept “third-country nationals” who are not granted asylum in the U.S. and are reluctant to return to their home countries. Uganda’s Ministry of Foreign Affairs specified a preference for individuals from African countries and stated it would not accept those with criminal records or unaccompanied minors. However, Abrego Garcia, a Salvadoran with no known ties to Uganda and no convictions (only pending charges), was targeted for this deportation

 

[avenue94]

Yea the admin error and doubling down on it isn't a good look, neither is trying to make him some "Maryland dad" hero.

I think they should let it play out like you're saying all though with political money and all that it will be tied up in court for awhile probably.

From AI with some of the events and time line.

Kilmar Abrego Garcia, a Salvadoran immigrant, was wrongfully deported to El Salvador in March 2025, despite a 2019 immigration judge’s order granting him withholding of removal due to fears of gang persecution. This deportation was ruled an “administrative error” by the U.S. government, and he was returned to the U.S. on June 6, 2025, to face federal charges of human smuggling in Tennessee.
He pleaded not guilty to two counts of conspiracy to unlawfully transport undocumented aliens for financial gain and unlawful transportation of undocumented aliens for financial gain, stemming from a 2022 traffic stop. His trial is pending, and he was released from pre-trial detention on August 22, 2025, to await trial in Maryland under electronic monitoring and home detention

• On Thursday, August 21, 2025, federal prosecutors offered Abrego Garcia a plea deal: if he agreed to remain in jail, plead guilty to the smuggling charges, and serve any resulting sentence, the U.S. would deport him to Costa Rica, where the Costa Rican government agreed to accept him as a refugee with legal status, ensuring he would not face detention.
  
  
  
  
• Abrego Garcia declined this deal, opting to maintain his not guilty plea and proceed to trial. On Friday, August 22, 2025, immediately after his release from Tennessee’s Putnam County Jail, ICE notified his attorneys via email at 4:01 p.m. that the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) intended to deport him to Uganda no earlier than 72 hours from that notice (excluding weekends), as per a Maryland court ruling requiring such notice.
  
  
  
  
• The notice stated: “Please let this email serve as notice that DHS may remove your client, Kilmar Armando Abrego Garcia, to Uganda no earlier than 72 hours from now (absent weekends).” His attorneys were also told he had until Monday morning, August 25, 2025, to accept the Costa Rica plea deal, or it would be “off the table foreve

Why Uganda?:

• U.S.-Uganda Deportation Agreement: The Trump administration recently negotiated a bilateral deportation agreement with Uganda to accept “third-country nationals” who are not granted asylum in the U.S. and are reluctant to return to their home countries. Uganda’s Ministry of Foreign Affairs specified a preference for individuals from African countries and stated it would not accept those with criminal records or unaccompanied minors. However, Abrego Garcia, a Salvadoran with no known ties to Uganda and no convictions (only pending charges), was targeted for this deportation

Why not just proceed to trial on the criminal indictments, get a conviction, then imprison or deport to Costa Rica?

 

[Limbo Pete]

It just feels like the case is incredibly weak or outright bs.

Why spend so much political capital on some nobody rather than have him go through a trial, get convicted and then booted after his due process? This just feels like a repeated unforced error.

This is giving perception of an authoritarian regime repeatedly picking on some poor guy. Whereas if they convicted him on trafficking or whatever bs they claim he did then they could point to that and I doubt anyone would be defending a human trafficker.

They are hellbent on crucifying this guy because the ability to hurt him is representative of their power over all perceived others/political-social enemies. It's about the exercise of physical control itself and the self justification of reactionary power entitlement

 

[cottagecheesefan]

Has there been a jury trial?

He has been accused of some felonies, right? Why not let a jury hear it? Why not do it by the book?

The administration said that they would go to trial if he remained in custody. The judge said that they were going to release him until trial. The administration said he is a danger and if they release him, he will be deported. They released. Now he is being deported

 

[cincymma79]

Goddamn democrats are the cringiest fucking dorks

 

[CantCucktheTuck]

Do you mean the script we got from the Supreme Court when it ruled the deportation was wrong?

Are you going to accuse your local weatherman of following a script from THE DEEP STATE next when when they report what the National Weather Service determines?

are you intentionally lying or are you genuinely misinformed?

 

[Seano]

Goddamn democrats are the cringiest fucking dorks

"Rapid response choir...."

 

[DEVILsSON]

The administration said that they would go to trial if he remained in custody. The judge said that they were going to release him until trial. The administration said he is a danger and if they release him, he will be deported. They released. Now he is being deported

I don't understand, suspected criminals are bonded out or released on their own recognizance all the time. Why is this guy so different ?

Goddamn democrats are the cringiest fucking dorks

Holy hell.

Was this a passive aggressive effort to make him self deport to Uganda?

 

[cottagecheesefan]

I don't understand, suspected criminals are bonded out or released on their own recognizance all the time. Why is this guy so different ?



Holy hell.

Was this a passive aggressive effort to make him self deport to Uganda?

Not everyone is bailed out, if they considered a danger or may possibly reengage in activity such as human, gun, and drug trafficking.

The justice department attempted to argue is was a danger, but the judge over seeing the case said he wasn’t, so they warned they would deport him if he was released on bail, since being in federal custody was only thing delaying deportation, as he already has had 2 deportation orders

 

[DEVILsSON]

Not everyone is bailed out, if they considered a danger or may possibly reengage in activity such as human, gun, and drug trafficking.

The justice department attempted to argue is was a danger, but the judge over seeing the case said he wasn’t, so they warned they would deport him if he was released on bail, since being in federal custody was only thing delaying deportation, as he already has had 2 deportation orders

Interesting caveat. Although federal court orders usually mean something. It's alarming Trump administration is openly flouting or ignoring court orders.

I guess for him staying in custody was the smart thing to do then.

 

[cottagecheesefan]

Interesting caveat. Although federal court orders usually mean something. It's alarming Trump administration is openly flouting or ignoring court orders.

I guess for him staying in custody was the smart thing to do then.

Well 2 previous immigration court judges put in the deportation order, due to likely gang ties. The deportation was put on hold because he actually argued rival gang in El Salvador may target him. They were to find a country to deport him too, then COVID happened. Now he can go to Uganda, since he did not want El Salvador or Costa Rica.

The federal judge, who doesn’t usually adjudicate federal immigration law, doesn’t think he is a gang member and potential danger to community, despite two immigration court judges who do adjudicate federal immigration law do, thus the deportation orders. In addition to the wife beating stuff, on video trafficking people without a license, other grand jury evidence and testimony leading to his indictment

It is actually bizarre that the judge let him out on bail to begin with, and already made up his mind that Kilmar is not guilty .

Here is AI list of typical cases with no bail, just so happens to be everything he is accused of. Domestic violence, human, gun, and drug trafficking. Given potential/likely MS-13 who are known to retaliate vs potential witnesses. Sexual abuse of a minor. Trafficking across states without even a license (flight risk).

There is no bail for crimes deemed extremely serious, where the defendant poses a significant flight risk, or presents a danger to the community or witnesses, such as murder, certain serious felonies, and repeat offenses. Bail can be denied if a court finds substantial evidence of a serious crime and concludes the individual would be a danger if released. In such cases, a special hearing is held to determine if the defendant falls into these categories.

Types of crimes that may lead to no bail:

Spoiler

• Violent crimes:
  Murder, rape, armed robbery, and other serious felonies fall into this category.
  
  
• Serious felonies:
  Crimes like residential burglary, arson, and certain drug offenses with high penalties can result in no bail.
  
  
• Dangerous behavior:
  A judge may deny bail if the defendant poses a serious risk of flight, obstruction of justice, or witness tampering.
  
  
• Domestic violence:
  A judge can deny bail for felony or misdemeanor domestic violence offenses if there is substantial evidence of a danger to an alleged victim.
  
  
• DUI resulting in death or serious injury:
  Bail may be denied if the offense resulted in death or serious bodily injury and the individual poses a danger to the community.

Why bail might be denied:

• Risk to the community:
  If the defendant is considered a substantial danger to others, a judge may deny bail.
  
  
• Flight risk:
  A judge may deny bail if the defendant is likely to flee to avoid prosecution.
  
  
• Obstruction of justice or witness tampering:
  If there's a concern that the defendant will try to influence witnesses or disrupt court proceedings, bail may be denied.
  
  
• Severity of the crime:
  For extremely serious crimes, the law may automatically deem bail ineligible.

Edit: here is a video of Noem basically summarizing that

 

[fedoriswar37]

The amount of water being carried for a guy who beats women is insane.