Opinion Trump administration in talks to send Venezuelan gang members to El Salvador prisons

[Fergelmince]

This isn't even a response to what I wrote and that's typical because the truth is you really haven't thought this out very deeply and don't care to.

I think it's typical that you are WAY overthinking this because the media and your peer group have fomented the outrage and you easily bought in to it.

 

[Beechwood]

Dude is corrupt and there's ulterior motives



Shocking how these activist judges have activists kids...

Sad to see that the judge looks to be corrupt/ has a conflict of interest with his daughters work to stop criminal illegal aliens from being deported, but I'm not to surprised. Reminds me of that New York judge that presided over Trump's trial. He has a daughter that is a Democrat activist who has been paid a lot of money I've read.

 

[Rod1]

they are getting due process. Regardless, Trump can deport WITHOUT due process if he wants to given the Alien Enemies Act allows for deportation WITHOUT any formal process.

No they aren't.

What stops them from grabbing US citizens, claiming they are gang members and throwing them in an El Salvadorian prison camp? especially when we know ICE has been known to detain and even deport US citizens in the past.

 

[Rod1]

they can be removed WITHOUT due process if Trump wants to do it that way.

At least you are being honest, most fascists really pretend to care about the law.

These are illegal alien criminals and even if they didn't get due process that's perfectly legal

Nope.

. However, it IS of major concern to me if it happens to American citizens like the J6 hostages.

J6 hostages got a trial and most were found guilty.

 

[terrapin]

I think it's typical that you are WAY overthinking this because the media and your peer group have fomented the outrage and you easily bought in to it.

There's no way you can describe what I'm doing as overthinking it. It only takes a few minutes to think this through... I think you mean I'm thinking about it but for you that's overthinking it.

 

[terrapin]

No they aren't.

What stops them from grabbing US citizens, claiming they are gang members and throwing them in an El Salvadorian prison camp? especially when we know ICE has been known to detain and even deport US citizens in the past.

These guys just don't care man as long as it's their side winning. The problem is the tables can be turned.

 

[Rod1]

These guys just don't care man as long as it's their side winning. The problem is the tables can be turned.

These people have just so much faith in government or they probably don't give a shit because they feel government can't target them wrongly.

 

[Fergelmince]

There's no way you can describe what I'm doing as overthinking it. It only takes a few minutes to think this through... I think you mean I'm thinking about it but for you that's overthinking it.

It's very easy to observe you are over thinking this.

Regardless, the criminal illegal aliens are in El Salvador and elsewhere, and there will be more to come. So, what are you going to do now?

 

[terrapin]

It's very easy to observe you are over thinking this.

Regardless, the criminal illegal aliens are in El Salvador and elsewhere, and there will be more to come. So, what are you going to do now?

No it isn't. You just lie so you don't have to think at all.

You don't know that they are criminal illegals aliens because they are not being transparent about the due reprocess.

That's the whole point. And that can be weaponized against literally anyone and people like you would/are allowing it stupidly because you don't know how to think or because you don't care.

 

[Fergelmince]

No it isn't. You just lie so you don't have to think at all.

You don't know that they are criminal illegals aliens because they are not being transparent about the due reprocess.

That's the whole point. And that can be weaponized against literally anyone and people like you would/are allowing it stupidly because you don't know how to think or because you don't care.

Lie? What am I lying about?

Are you saying some or all of 137 people deported under the Alien Enemies Act are actually US citizens?

 

[Rod1]

That's the whole point. And that can be weaponized against literally anyone and people like you would/are allowing it stupidly because you don't know how to think or because you don't care.

Same people who bitch about Ruby Ridge overreach will cheer about this.

Its pretty transparent, Ruby Ridge they can see happening to themselves, they don't see themselves as a victims of ICE overreach, even if they do catch some US citizens chances are they will be minority US citizens which a lot of Americans don't consider as "real citizens".

I mean hell, Trump himself is arguing that a lot of US citizens aren't real citizens by going after Birthright citizenship.

 

[Rod1]

Are you saying some or all of 137 people deported under the Alien Enemies Act are actually US citizens?

He is saying you can't tell because there was no due process.

 

[terrapin]

Lie? What am I lying about?

Are you saying some or all of 137 people deported under the Alien Enemies Act are actually US citizens?

You are lying that you can see overthink in my position. It could be hardly stated any more simply than this below. The truth is you just don't want to think at all.

It's utterly simple.

-They're rounding up people and putting them to prison camps.

--They are not being transparent about who they are rounding up with family members or the lawyers or citizens

-That lack of transparency could be used against American citizens easily and might be now.

 

[Fergelmince]

You are lying that you can see overthink in my position. It could be hardly stated any more simply than this below. The truth is you just don't want to think at all.

It's utterly simple.

-They're rounding up people into putting them to prison camps.

--They are not being transparent about who they are rounding up or family members or lawyers.

-That lack of transparency could be used against American citizens easily and might be now.

Bro, calm down. Me viewing your perspective as overthinking these deportations is not lying.

Are you saying some or all of 137 people deported under the Alien Enemies Act are actually US citizens?

 

[terrapin]

Bro, calm down. Me viewing your perspective as overthinking these deportations is not lying.

Are you saying some or all of 137 people deported under the Alien Enemies Act are actually US citizens?

Yes it is lying. Why don't you simplify those three points I made and tell me how even one sentence changes it from overthinking to just thinking.....
You are lying. You don't even think I'm overthinking. You're just lying.

If you really think I'm overthinking then show your work and put my position more succinctly. You can't and won't because you are lying.

 

[Fergelmince]

Yes it is lying. Why don't you simplify those three points I made and tell me how even one sentence changes it from overthinking to just thinking.....
You are lying. You don't even think I'm overthinking. You're just lying.

If you really think I'm overthinking then show your work and put my position more succinctly. You can't and won't because you are lying.

No, bro, I'm not lying. You're overthinking this, you're overemotional and you can't think straight.

Regardless, answer the question:

Are you saying some or all of 137 people deported under the Alien Enemies Act are actually US citizens?

 

[terrapin]

No, bro, I'm not lying. You're overthinking this, you're overemotional and you can't think straight.

Regardless, answer the question:

Are you saying some or all of 137 people deported under the Alien Enemies Act are actually US citizens?

That's the second time you've refused to back up your claim that I'm overthinking. I'll take that as a concession that you are lying and cannot because you can't even state my position more succintly.

Now I'm not afraid to answer your question because I'm not a liar like you. What I'm saying is that without showing due process we are setting a precedent where American citizens could be rounded up and deported. Without due process there's no way to know if they have now or will later.

 

[Fergelmince]

That's the second time you've refused to back up your claim that I'm overthinking. I'll take that as a concession that you are lying and cannot because you can't even state my position more succintly.

Now I'm not afraid to answer your question because I'm not a liar like you. What I'm saying is that without showing due process we are setting a precedent where American citizens could be rounded up and deported. Without due process there's no way to know if they have now or will later.

there's NO PRECEDENT for denial of due process being set this year by Trump. That ship sailed years ago.

You won't answer my question:

Are you saying some or all of 137 people deported under the Alien Enemies Act are actually US citizens?

 

[terrapin]

You won't answer my question:

Are you saying some or all of 137 people deported under the Alien Enemies Act are actually US citizens?

And apparently you can't read because I did answer your question you fool....

 

[Fergelmince]

And apparently you can't read because I did answer your question you fool....

LOL, You DID NOT answer my question. you danced around it.

and as I said above, there is no precedent for denial of due process being set by Trump. That ship sailed years ago.

Are you saying some or all of 137 people deported under the Alien Enemies Act are actually US citizens?