Social Transgender Megathread Vol. 2

[Zazen]

Get ready for the cancel police to get on the reeeee levels

Love the sport but man mma fighters are some of the most brain dead athletes out there. Dude could barely complete a thought. Always thinks it’s funny that they call others weak but they are the ones who want to be ruled by authoritarians. I see so much praise for people like Vladimir Putin, Xi Jinping, and that new Argentinian bloke. To me that’s weakness

 

[Helden]

Your posts are just empty talking points. If someone feels like a 3rd trimester abortion is limiting the rights of a woman, there's others who feel like it's limiting the rights of that baby to live.

If someone feels like not allowing men who think they're women to use the restroom or change clothes in female spaces is limiting the rights of trans people, there's others who feel like it's limiting the rights of females to be able to safely use the restroom or change clothes without fear of a man watching or worse.

Your "rights" that you push for are trampling on other's rights just as much as you think the rights you believe in are trampled on.

Wanna bring up the stats for abortions and what percentage occurs in the 3rd trimester? And the breakdown of the reasons for those 3rd trimester abortions? Your entire screeching argument (as most conservative arguments) falls apart once actual statistics get involved.

 

[The_Renaissance]

Jesus. Look at everyone in this class. All of them are wearing masks in 2024 and at least 50% of them look like they/thems. Is this just what universities attract/create now or is this just how everyone is? Our future is terrifying.

These people all look the same. All think the same. It's a hive mind, basically, and reminds me a little bit of when I lived in China - the people were quite insect-like in their behaviour. Like a hive of worker bees. I genuinely think the western elites want this to be how western society is, too, hence the push for all this shit.

 

[RoastBeast]

Wanna bring up the stats for abortions and what percentage occurs in the 3rd trimester? And the breakdown of the reasons for those 3rd trimester abortions? Your entire screeching argument (as most conservative arguments) falls apart once actual statistics get involved.

I don't care if it's a high or low percentage. Killing a baby as a form of birth control is a bad thing if it rarely happens or frequently happens. We can talk 2nd trimester too. Doesn't matter to me. You won't find me arguing against an abortion if it's to save the life of a mother. Your argument falls apart when you're actually forced to listen to dissenting opinions because they aren't as wild as you think they are. The fact that you call my dissenting opinion "screeching" just goes to show that you aren't capable of having a nuanced conversation because you aren't even willing to listen.

Also please explain why you don't think women should have the right to be able to use the restroom and change clothes in peace without men in the bathroom and locker room with them? If you give men the right to be there, then women must lose their right to privacy from men. Are you really willing to say that a man has more of a right to watch a woman change clothes than the woman has a right to chance clothes in privacy? And all this is based on whether or not the man claims that he identifies as a woman?

What's funny is you think we're the radical ones here.

 

[Senzo Tanaka]

These people all look the same. All think the same. It's a hive mind, basically, and reminds me a little bit of when I lived in China - the people were quite insect-like in their behaviour. Like a hive of worker bees. I genuinely think the western elites want this to be how western society is, too, hence the push for all this shit.

I agree. I think the elites know it's easier to control people like this. Just pander a bit and you have soldiers. The people in power aren't stupid.

It wouldn't shock me if this is also the reason for mass-Muslim immigration into Europe. If you have the men in the mosques and the women covered and in homes, you control the masses as long as you pretend to be in favor of what they believe.

 

[Michaelangelo]

Jesus. Look at everyone in this class. All of them are wearing masks in 2024 and at least 50% of them look like they/thems. Is this just what universities attract/create now or is this just how everyone is? Our future is terrifying.

Lol at University of North Texas

80% acceptance rate gonna end up with 80% unemployment rate

 

[Senzo Tanaka]

Lol at University of North Texas

80% acceptance rate gonna end up with 80% unemployment rate

Unfortunately, they'll be your future bosses and running companies. I don't think they are stupid people. They just have a radically different world view.

I know when all of this stuff started happening, people were like "eh, they'll grow out of it when they grow up and enter the REAL world". And guess what happened? They grew up, got jobs and spread their ideology all across the workplace and entertainment. They didn't grow out of it...

 

[Michaelangelo]

Unfortunately, they'll be your future bosses and running companies. I don't think they are stupid people. They just have a radically different world view.

I know when all of this stuff started happening, people were like "eh, they'll grow out of it when they grow up and enter the REAL world". And guess what happened? They grew up, got jobs and spread their ideology all across the workplace and entertainment. They didn't grow out of it...

Their hiring rates have been plummeting

Employers are willing to pay more for seasoned professionals rather than new entitled grads

 

[Helden]

I don't care if it's a high or low percentage. Killing a baby as a form of birth control is a bad thing if it rarely happens or frequently happens. We can talk 2nd trimester too. Doesn't matter to me. You won't find me arguing against an abortion if it's to save the life of a mother. Your argument falls apart when you're actually forced to listen to dissenting opinions because they aren't as wild as you think they are. The fact that you call my dissenting opinion "screeching" just goes to show that you aren't capable of having a nuanced conversation because you aren't even willing to listen.

Also please explain why you don't think women should have the right to be able to use the restroom and change clothes in peace without men in the bathroom and locker room with them? If you give men the right to be there, then women must lose their right to privacy from men. Are you really willing to say that a man has more of a right to watch a woman change clothes than the woman has a right to chance clothes in privacy? And all this is based on whether or not the man claims that he identifies as a woman?

What's funny is you think we're the radical ones here.

"I dont care about the nuance, statistics or data on the subject, my argument is entirely emotional, when called out on the actual numbers I'll pivot to something else"

Cool, gotcha

 

[RoastBeast]

"I dont care about the nuance, statistics or data on the subject, my argument is entirely emotional, when called out on the actual numbers I'll pivot to something else"

Cool, gotcha

Way to ignore any and all questions. You might have to turn your filters off or something.

Yeah I don't care if 1 baby is killed or 1000 babies are killed. I don't agree with it no matter what the statistic is. You on the other hand sound like dead babies are acceptable as long as there aren't a large number of them. Do I have that right?

I didn't pivot at all. That second point was made in my previous post that you conveniently ignored for the second time in a row. We are in a transgender thread after all so the second point is way more on topic than the first.

Carry on with your emotional radical left wing spam bot posting.

 

[Helden]

Way to ignore any and all questions. You might have to turn your filters off or something.

Yeah I don't care if 1 baby is killed or 1000 babies are killed. I don't agree with it no matter what the statistic is. You on the other hand sound like dead babies are acceptable as long as there aren't a large number of them. Do I have that right?

I didn't pivot at all. That second point was made in my previous post that you conveniently ignored for the second time in a row. We are in a transgender thread after all so the second point is way more on topic than the first.

Carry on with your emotional radical left wing spam bot posting.

Ah so base your emotional drivel on the most statistically insignificant data and then base your entire worldview around it. Gotcha.

 

[RoastBeast]

Ah so base your emotional drivel on the most statistically insignificant data and then base your entire worldview around it. Gotcha.

What's with you guys and the dishonest tactics? It's like every left winger on this forum with radical viewpoints has the same M.O. You guys dishonestly frame your opponents argument, build a strawman around it and then claim that anything they say is just "emotional drivel".

Face it, your view doesn't hold up to scrutiny. Regroup and figure out a better tactic.

 

[Helden]

What's with you guys and the dishonest tactics? It's like every left winger on this forum with radical viewpoints has the same M.O. You guys dishonestly frame your opponents argument, build a strawman around it and then claim that anything they say is just "emotional drivel".

Face it, your view doesn't hold up to scrutiny. Regroup and figure out a better tactic.

What scrutiny? You made the claim that "the left" wants women to kill babies in 3rd trimester. I countered that this is hysterical nonsense, and statistically not only do 3rd trimester abortions make up less than 1% of all abortions, but in most cases of those 3rd trimester abortions, they happen because of medical complications and not as "a form of birth control". Your retort was "I don't care if it's 1 or a 1000, killing babies is wrong" - basically a concession of your point.

 

[RoastBeast]

What scrutiny? You made the claim that "the left" wants women to kill babies in 3rd trimester. I countered that this is hysterical nonsense, and statistically not only do 3rd trimester abortions make up less than 1% of all abortions, but in most cases of those 3rd trimester abortions, they happen because of medical complications and not as "a form of birth control". Your retort was "I don't care if it's 1 or a 1000, killing babies is wrong" - basically a concession of your point.

You are literally doing exactly what I just said you'd do. "Dishonestly frame your opponents argument"

Here is my quote:

If someone feels like a 3rd trimester abortion is limiting the rights of a woman, there's others who feel like it's limiting the rights of that baby to live.

Stop being dishonest.

Also remember that I said I have no issues with a 3rd trimester abortion if it's necessary to save the mother's life.

I don't agree with doing it as a form of birth control and I don't care if it's done 1 time or 1000 times. It's wrong every time. Yes, you quoted me correctly there for once but it's not even remotely a concession when it comes to anything. I'm not even sure what the concession would be about anyway. Change 3rd trimester to 2nd trimester and I have the exact same opinion. Doesn't matter to me and we both know the statistics go up quite a bit in the 2nd trimester. My convictions are my convictions.

 

[Helden]

You are literally doing exactly what I just said you'd do. "Dishonestly frame your opponents argument"

Here is my quote:

If someone feels like a 3rd trimester abortion is limiting the rights of a woman, there's others who feel like it's limiting the rights of that baby to live.

Stop being dishonest.

Also remember that I said I have no issues with a 3rd trimester abortion if it's necessary to save the mother's life.

I don't agree with doing it as a form of birth control and I don't care if it's done 1 time or 1000 times. It's wrong every time. Yes, you quoted me correctly there for once but it's not even remotely a concession when it comes to anything. I'm not even sure what the concession would be about anyway. Change 3rd trimester to 2nd trimester and I have the exact same opinion. Doesn't matter to me and we both know the statistics go up quite a bit in the 2nd trimester. My convictions are my convictions.

They go up quite a bit do they?
About 6% of all abortions occur in the 2nd trimester

 

[RoastBeast]

They go up quite a bit do they?
About 6% of all abortions occur in the 2nd trimester

That's 6% too much unless the mother was in danger or the fetus had an issue and wouldn't be viable.

 

[Helden]

That's 6% too much unless the mother was in danger or the fetus had an issue and wouldn't be viable.

So basically right wing war on womens rights stems from 6% of abortion cases they know nothing about.

 

[RoastBeast]

So basically right wing war on womens rights stems from 6% of abortion cases they know nothing about.

Like I said, I'm okay with 1st trimester abortions and anything after that better be a safety issue. I told you that not every conservative has some "war on women's rights" as you claim.

Can we get back to the topic now? Why do you think that a man has the right to invade the privacy of females in bathrooms and changing rooms? Why don't you take the females' rights into account in this situation?

 

[Helden]

Like I said, I'm okay with 1st trimester abortions and anything after that better be a safety issue. I told you that not every conservative has some "war on women's rights" as you claim.

Can we get back to the topic now? Why do you think that a man has the right to invade the privacy of females in bathrooms and changing rooms? Why don't you take the females' rights into account in this situation?

Man/Woman are genders
Male/Female are biological sexes

Establish the language you are using first, because right now you are conflating the two

 

[RoastBeast]

Man/Woman are genders
Male/Female are biological sexes

Establish the language you are using first, because right now you are conflating the two

I'm not conflating the two. Men can only be male and women can only be female. The definition of a man is literally "an adult male human being".

Care to answer the questions or are you going to avoid them once again? They're very simple and there's no right or wrong answer. Just give your opinion like I gave mine on abortion.