Topuria's path to GOAT and passing Jon

[Rhood]

If Ilia beats Arman and then likely Pimblett, then moves up and beats Islam/Della for the 170lb title and retires...its really still a worse career than Jones.

It's still worse than Conor McGregor as well.
Conor never cherry picked his fights as much as Topper does.

 

[hbombbisping]

It's still worse than Conor McGregor as well.
Conor never cherry picked his fights as much as Topper does.

lol Topuria is a double champ, undefeated and defended a title.

Conor is not even the dime store version of Topuria, and yes Top has to fight the #1 contender and since Islam moved up that is Arman.

 

[AmonTobin]

Dude has (1) title defense and he's a goat? Are you serious?

 

[hbombbisping]

Dude has (1) title defense and he's a goat? Are you serious?

He's undefeated and could become the first 3 weight champion ever (I personally doubt he wins and defends the WW title but he has a path) never popped like Jon, and is much more exciting to watch with real knockout power (Jon's hands are pillows) and most importantly, he's never been caught cheating.

They will be calling him GOAT if he can do it. Jon will be forgotton.

 

[FriskyRandy]

Not for people like us sure, but topuria has that winner vibe energy

Sounds like wayyyyyy too much work.

 

[AmonTobin]

He's undefeated and could become the first 3 weight champion ever (I personally doubt he wins and defends the WW title but he has a path) never popped like Jon, and is much more exciting to watch with real knockout power (Jon's hands are pillows) and most importantly, he's never been caught cheating.

They will be calling him GOAT if he can do it. Jon will be forgotton.

I never mentioned Jon Jones because he has nothing to do with what Ilia has or hasn't accomplished.
(1) title defense. Pump the breaks.

 

[hbombbisping]

I never mentioned Jon Jones because he has nothing to do with what Ilia has or hasn't accomplished.
(1) title defense. Pump the breaks.

He has 3 title fight wins now. That's how it's counted. Won the title at FW. Defended. Moved up and won another title.

Jon has so much going against him in GOAT talks.

Winning in the 3 weight classes (if possible) against such high level opponents will most likely supplant Jons title fight wins while roiding against way smaller guys in an old era of MMA.

Let's face it as well, Topuria just looks more impressive doing it.

 

[orca]

Disclaimer: Jon is at a disadvatage in these talks because he's a proven seriel cheater in the sport

If Topuria were to:

1. Defend and beat the #1 contender Arman, beat the next line after that, say someone like Gamrot
2. Win a third weight title against whoever holds it at WW, and defend it against a #1 contender, reitre, that's all she wrote, Jon asterisks Jones may as well start Slap Fighting in Albequerque because Topuria's very exsitence will erase him otherwise.

(Not saying this is likely)

15 more title wins to go
goodluck
proven cheater
does jon jones fights with no refiree? no drug testing? hmm
what about pre USADA era
23 year old kid jones fought fighters who where innocent and clean
imagine saying shogun was innocent even though he was notoriusly said to abuse peds lol
yeah they where innocent while jones werent lol

 

[Colemanstove]

He's not going to have enough championship fights to be a goat. I doubt he has more than 3-5 fights left. Would be so happy if I'm wrong.

 

[Travis Alexander]

Impossible, the competition in MMA is way too high nowadays...
Jones fought old midgets, like Rashad, Machida, Vitor, Chael and so on... None of them would be a top 10 LHW today

You conveniently left out prime Bader, Rampage Glover (who as an old man was recently champ) etc etc . Also you think prime Rashad and Machida Shogun can’t crack top 10 LHW?
Ninja your trippin. Your letting hate blind you.

 

[Pequeño Corey]

Ain't nobody touching Bones, GSP, Spider, Fedor, and Mouse. We won't see it again in our lifetime.

 

[VAfan]

If he passes Jon... he still needs to get by Fedor and GSP.

beat me to it.

 

[TimeToTrain]

Quality > Quantity

In this case, Jon is just quantity. 17 title defenses is a lot but lost its value with the controversies, PEDs, quality of opponents, and how many rounds he lost plus decision wins he’s accumulated without dominance.

 

[Chayanne]

Jones has cleaned up his entire division, Topuria only wants to choose certain opponents and not clean up his own division. Big difference

 

[Bwagster]

Jon destroyed his legacy for being considered the GOAT. Move on people.

 

[JKS]

Quality > Quantity

In this case, Jon is just quantity. 17 title defenses is a lot but lost its value with the controversies, PEDs, quality of opponents, and how many rounds he lost plus decision wins he’s accumulated without dominance.

Jon is just quantity?? This is gotta be one of the most illogical comments I've heard about Jon's legacy

Are you really questioning the quality of opponents of a guy who without question has beaten the highest quality of opponents in mma history of any fighter???

Rounds he lost?? A fighter who's been in 17 title fights and 24 UFC fights and has lost exactly 9 rounds in his entire UFC career. That is supposed to be some criticism against him??

Decision wins without dominance?? Are you serious? The man has like 3 close fights and then pretty much nothing but domination.

Everything you said (PEDs aside) is exactly the opposite.

Just asking....where in this argument you're making is the quality?? You mean Topuira??

 

[Rhood]

Dude has (1) title defense and he's a goat? Are you serious?

Topper is the product of the Sherdog hype machine.
Sage Northcutt & Mike Perry were also former members of the Sherdog hype machine.

 

[Aurelian]

Topper is the product of the Sherdog hype machine.
Sage Northcutt & Mike Perry were also former members of the Sherdog hype machine.

Knocking out Volk, Max, and Charles is hype?

What?

 

[Fight Professor]

He needs to beat a wrestler then staying active and not losing.

 

[Number 8]

LEL

Iliah Topturo vs Jon pillow fight for goat status