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Streetfighting maybe but we're not talking streetfighting.
But that’s all that matters!
Streetfighting maybe but we're not talking streetfighting.
Hmm.
Roberto Duran
Mike Tyson
Jack Johnson
Ray Leonard
Manny Pacquiao
Ray Robinson
Muhammad Ali
Jack Dempsey
Joe Louis
Rocky Marciano
haha my sarcastic response was going to be "what no Broner?", then I finished your list.Clinton Woods
Peter McNeeley
Kubrat Pulev
Ricardo Mayorga
Spider Rico
David Price
Conor McGregor
Glass Joe
Audley Harrison
Adrien Broner
haham my sarcastic response was going to be "what no Broner?", then I finished your list.
^ This seems right to me.
I might replace somebody with George Foreman. But I can’t decide who, so maybe not.
Willie Pep, perhaps. He was one of the few non heavies to really capture the fans attention.^ This seems right to me.
I might replace somebody with George Foreman. But I can’t decide who, so maybe not.
Willie Pep, perhaps. He was one of the few non heavies to really capture the fans attention.
Wasn't my time, but was Duran really that big? I can't imagine that he was compared to Joe Frazier, George Foreman, or even Holyfield who was part of big fights vs Foreman, Bowe, Tyson & Lewis.
Holyfield made headlines worldwide... Duran? Again, not my time.
Floyd too... His fights vs Oscar, Pacquaio and McGregor were huge.
Floyd: Has to cross your mind in this discussion, but his superstardom is such a strictly US thing that I can't see how he'd make the top ten
As for Floyd's fights against De La Hoya, Pac and McGregor being huge, you'd have to consider that Manny Pacquiao and Conor McGregor are bigger stars worldwide than Floyd will ever be
Let's add Nigel Benn.
UK only:
Cooper
McGuigan
Minter
Benn
Eubank (snr!)
Bruno
Hatton
Hamed
Joshua
Lewis
Excluded:
Calzaghe - love him / hate him character who shunned limelight - not iconic
Froch - my personal favorite, but not an icon for most due to dire on screen personality
Fury - not an icon, yet....
haha my sarcastic response was going to be "what no Broner?", then I finished your list.
UK only:
Cooper
McGuigan
Minter
Benn
Eubank (snr!)
Bruno
Hatton
Hamed
Joshua
Lewis
Excluded:
Calzaghe - love him / hate him character who shunned limelight - not iconic
Froch - my personal favorite, but not an icon for most due to dire on screen personality
Fury - not an icon, yet....
No Ken Buchanan?
Heh, not my time either, thankfully. But Jack Dempsey seems to have been huge outside the US too. Well, at least in Europe. I remember hearing his name many times as a little kid, before I got into boxing myself, and I was born in 1975, decades after he fought. The guy is a real legend. A part of American culture, which of course most of us have some kind of relationship with. It would feel like something major was missing if his name was not on the list.This goes for severel boxers in your top 10. Jack Johnson and Dempsey outside the US? I don't know... But again, not my time, LOL.
He is definitely known outside the US, that is true. And huge in the US, obviously. He's very close to the top ten for me in terms of icon status, but again, on my list I just don't know whose spot I'd give to him.This brings me back to Foreman, who is definitely known outside the US. You're right that its mostly because of his fight against Ali, but it doesn't change the fact that he possibly easily hits the top 10... Him capturing the heavyweight championship at 45 probably didn't go unnoticed worldwide as well.
Imagine there was a movie made in 2019 based on Jack Johnson's life. Then imagine one made about George Foreman, or Floyd Mayweather Jr. Which one do you think would get more attention in non-boxing circles? Which one would win more Oscars?