'Top Ten Most Effective Martial Arts' (Video)

[Loiosh]

Idk man. I skateboarded for about 20 years. And my shins felt like they're made of steel. I used to take tae kwon do as a teenager, while I was still a skateboarder. And whenever me and somebody else would shin clash in TKD class, they would always drop immediately, and it would never phase me a bit. Was actually pretty cool

I also used to be super into Bruce Lee and had all his books, and read how he'd train his knuckles. And I used to do similar training. Like I bought a makiwara board and put it on a tree and punched it regularly. To this day I can punch a hard object and feel almost no pain in my knuckles.

You could be right. It could just be dead nerves. Idk. But personally it kind of feels like the bones might have re-calcified or whatever and become a little stronger. But who knows?






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That doesn't really nullify what I posted; shins are pretty sensitive until you kill the nerves.

That said, I'm just repeating something I read. I also read that the practice of toughening shins has been reduced dramatically because it left athletes all but crippled in retirement.

 

[BearGrounds]

There are also some nasty standing armbreaks in Judo, that aren't really for competition - there is no time to tap, they are designed to just break it.

Post reminded me of this ruthless Aoki finish:

That doesn't really nullify what I posted; shins are pretty sensitive until you kill the nerves.

That said, I'm just repeating something I read. I also read that the practice of toughening shins has been reduced dramatically because it left athletes all but crippled in retirement.

From what I understand from reading the S&C textbook I've got, you can increase bone mineral density from mechanical loading.

When bearing a load the bone bends, which stimulates osteoblasts (cells that manufacture and secrete proteins that are deposited in the spaces between bone cells to increase strength) migration. When they mineralize new bone formation occurs, increasing diameter and strength. Inactivity has the opposite effect.

It's one focus of S&C training. If you want to strengthen certain bones you must target that specific region of the skeleton and make it bear load accordingly. I assume this process can be stimulated through the proper application of impact training as well.

That said, I'm sure killing the nerves is also important. I remember how much my head would hurt after the first few days of banging it against other's heads in wrestling practice. Couple weeks in wouldn't feel a thing, and would be more than willing to smash foreheads when tying up. Certainly felt like the nerves were dead.

 

[no fat chicks]

Watch ufc 1 you tards

 

[Orgasmo]

Top 3 IMO:
1. Kickboxing (Muay Thai, Sanshou etc)
2. Wrestling (Folk Style or Greco-Roman)
3. BJJ (No gi variety)

You can build an extremely solid foundation training those three above.

 

[Orgasmo]

Kung Fu has no business being on that list. It's probably the worst martial art ever.

Problem is Kungfu is as diverse as MMA. It's basically what Chinese use to describe martial arts. There are some legit useful ones like Sanshou and Mongolian wrestling. Of course you also get those flashy jumping around with spear stuff.

 

[Loiosh]

From what I understand from reading the S&C textbook I've got, you can increase bone mineral density from mechanical loading.

When bearing a load the bone bends, which stimulates osteoblasts (cells that manufacture and secrete proteins that are deposited in the spaces between bone cells to increase strength) migration. When they mineralize new bone formation occurs, increasing diameter and strength. Inactivity has the opposite effect.

It's one focus of S&C training. If you want to strengthen certain bones you must target that specific region of the skeleton and make it bear load accordingly. I assume this process can be stimulated through the proper application of impact training as well.

That said, I'm sure killing the nerves is also important. I remember how much my head would hurt after the first few days of banging it against other's heads in wrestling practice. Couple weeks in wouldn't feel a thing, and would be more than willing to smash foreheads when tying up. Certainly felt like the nerves were dead.

I read what you wrote first, and thought it was true for years, and then read that it was a myth and also that fighters in Thailand were discontinuing the practice. I have no idea what's true.

 

[DoctorTaco]

Put things in which ever order you want, but having your top 2 Martial arts with no grappling/ground fighting is bonkers.

 

[Krav McGraw]

Problem is Kungfu is as diverse as MMA. It's basically what Chinese use to describe martial arts. There are some legit useful ones like Sanshou and Mongolian wrestling. Of course you also get those flashy jumping around with spear stuff.

Wing Chun is really what I'm talking about. These people are the most insufferable martial artists I've encountered. They are the prototypical "too dangerous for competition" idiots.

 

[Frode Falch]

Sanda/sanshou is a bit too heavy on takedowns imo. There is not much trading going on. Most ko/tko's happen when a fighter get caught with some wild strike because they tried a sloppy shoot for a takedown.

You will see much more technical sound standing grappling in a typical clinching session in a good thai gym.

When i think of sanda, i think judo throws, sloppy double legs, and a stiff good lead sidekick.

 

[Frode Falch]

Its impossible to put together a serious top ten list. Because it will change from what kind of people training. But i guess my top five would be something like :

1) mma
2) muay thai
3) a submission wrestling art
4) a serious RBSD or JKD gym/school
5) a good boxing gym / coach

 

[Deleted member 196663]

If I had to choose two, it would be wrestling and boxing. Staying on your feet is the most important thing in a street fight, and being able to KO people as quickly and as efficiently as possible is the next important thing.

Basically Chuck Liddell at the bar.

 

[Horse Style]

If I had to choose two, it would be wrestling and boxing. Staying on your feet is the most important thing in a street fight, and being able to KO people as quickly and as efficiently as possible is the next important thing.

Basically Chuck Liddell at the bar.

If staying on your feet is the most important then why is wrestling in your top 2? I'm not being cheeky, I'm actually curious. I thought wrestling was all about taking your opponent down and dominating him on the ground. I may be missing something, though

 

[Halge]

Boxing at 9?

Meh.

 

[Deleted member 196663]

If staying on your feet is the most important then why is wrestling in your top 2? I'm not being cheeky, I'm actually curious.

I thought wrestling was all about taking your opponent down and dominating him on the ground. I may be missing something, though

Two people wrestle, so the guy going for the takedown has to also stop the takedown.

 

[puppybird]

 

[Bay Area]

lol regardless of how broad a term kung fu is . the art today is in absolute shambles. someone who can even passably spar thats a practitioner much less fight is rare

He makes a good point about the Shaolin monks and how they train though

 

[Bay Area]

One time I tripped someone, held on to his sleeve as he fell and dropped for an arm bar which I locked in immediately, but one of his four friends kicked me in the head and together the five of them kicked the living crap out of me. I do not recommend following someone to the ground in the real world unless you simply have to disable someone, in which case it's probably best to just throw him and let concrete do the work.

Literally none of this happend.

 

[Krav McGraw]

Shaolin monks are a gimmick. I'd love to fight one.

 

[Loiosh]

Literally none of this happend.

Literally every single thing in that post happened. It's one of the few actual fights I have ever had, and I had the crap kicked out of me. After I was kicked in the head things got a bit foggy, but they kicked me in the ribs, picked me up, and tossed me around the parking lot. I distinctly remember crashing into a panel van.

 

[j123]

Shaolin monks are a gimmick. I'd love to fight one.

Your moo thigh, chu gif shoes, and teh UFC is useless against them