'Top Ten Most Effective Martial Arts' (Video)

[Adamant]

Where is Sambo? I would rank that pretty highly.

 

[LEGS MAHONEY]

And why didn't you respect judo guys? What was it about the art that made you think it was ineffective?

Huh? I didnt say anything about judo. If anyone thinks judo isnt a very viable art then they dont know their grappling.

 

[Guestx]

Huh? I didnt say anything about judo. If anyone thinks judo isnt a very viable art then they dont know their grappling.

My bad bro, got confused. That should've been directed to @NHB7.

 

[Frode Falch]

I read the first post. And i was thinking how the hell can anyone but muay thai over MMA? And i am a thai boxer.

So i started the video. And i made it 5 seconds into it before stopping it.

I dont wanna be rude.. So i will say no more.

 

[Turtlejuice]

I think part of the reason MMA as a standalone MA is ranked lower is because, while they are training all aspects of MA, they won't be as good at any of the aspects as someone who has trained that specifically. For example, someone training MT 4 hours a week for 2 years will be a significantly better striker than someone training MMA for the same period, someone training 4 hours for 2 years of a grappling art will be a significantly better grappler than someone training MMA for the same time period. I think training in a single striking or grappling arts, then cross training is the best solution, rather than training MMA from the start.

Also, a lot of MMA clubs (where I live at least) don't accept members under 14 or 16. By that age you can be very high level in a single art.

 

[Loiosh]

Just subjective opinions. For example, I never really respected Judo, then I sparred a bunch of great Judo practitioners. And to be clear, they do a lot more than is allowed in competition, even in MMA. And a throw and slam on a mat looks pretty painless, but do that same thing on a curb and you kill someone.

Need to make it clear up front I'm not some kind of bad-ass, but over the years I put two people in the hospital flipping them to the concrete, because they took me by surprise and I couldn't control their falls. They both knew me and knew I was a judoka and were just fucking around, but you don't want to surprise someone who spends thirty hours a week training to toss people around. I was sure I had broken one guy's back because we were in a warehouse and he landed on the corner of a pallet, he had problems breathing for a month.

 

[Loiosh]

To protect yourself on the street I'd rate judo pretty highly, because you're used to using apparel to control how people move and putting them off balance. Someone reaches for you or leaves an arm out so you can snare a sleeve that's usually game over.

Maybe a little less useful on the beach.

 

[Horse Style]

To protect yourself on the street I'd rate judo pretty highly, because you're used to using apparel to control how people move and putting them off balance. Someone reaches for you or leaves an arm out so you can snare a sleeve that's usually game over.

Maybe a little less useful on the beach.

I know you may be biased as an experienced judoka, but do you think judo is more useful in a street fight scenario than wrestling?

It seems much quicker to flip a guy rather than double leg him and take the fight to the ground.

Plus, Rousey beat McMann so that settles things lol

 

[Loiosh]

cool and interesting video. Guy understands martial arts better than most morons on youtube.

BUT, imo it's stupid to rank mma as #3, and kung fu and muay thai above it, when mma incorporates muay thai and kung fu, and literally everything else.

I think he considered that but his philosophy regarding how dedicated practitioners of those arts spend years conditioning their bodies to take and deal more damage may have put them over the top for him.

I know next to nothing about striking but I heard that's largely a myth, though. Beating the crap out of your limbs doesn't make the bones stronger it just kills the nerves so you feel less or no pain.

 

[faustian]

No Aikido = invalid list

And lol @ Tae Kwon Do & Karate

 

[Loiosh]

I know you may be biased as an experienced judoka, but do you think judo is more useful in a street fight scenario than wrestling?

It seems much quicker to flip a guy rather than double leg him and take the fight to the ground.

Plus, Rousey beat McMann so that settles things lol

I think it gives you WAY more options.

Outside of being able to manipulate people using what they're wearing and the fact you have an arsenal of submissions, you don't have to follow someone to the ground.

I also wrestled for years. Having done judo, football and a host of other sports I'm going to say that no training I have ever done has been as grueling as wrestling training, and hardcore wrestlers are tough motherfuckers.

 

[Loiosh]

I know you may be biased as an experienced judoka, but do you think judo is more useful in a street fight scenario than wrestling?

It seems much quicker to flip a guy rather than double leg him and take the fight to the ground.

Plus, Rousey beat McMann so that settles things lol

I'd like to add that I have never intentionally flipped someone while protecting myself. It's pretty hard to do it without seriously hurting someone if you don't follow through with them to the ground; the two times I did flip someone I was surprised and it was muscle memory, and both times they could have been hurt very badly. Trips are easier, require you to commit less, and the end result is basically the same, unless you actually want to hurt them. Not once in my life have I wanted to hurt someone.

One time I tripped someone, held on to his sleeve as he fell and dropped for an arm bar which I locked in immediately, but one of his four friends kicked me in the head and together the five of them kicked the living crap out of me. I do not recommend following someone to the ground in the real world unless you simply have to disable someone, in which case it's probably best to just throw him and let concrete do the work.

 

[Horse Style]

I'd like to add that I have never intentionally flipped someone while protecting myself. It's pretty hard to do it without seriously hurting someone if you don't follow through with them to the ground; the two times I did flip someone I was surprised and it was muscle memory, and both times they could have been hurt very badly. Trips are easier, require you to commit less, and the end result is basically the same, unless you actually want to hurt them. Not once in my life have I wanted to hurt someone.

One time I tripped someone, held on to his sleeve as he fell and dropped for an arm bar which I locked in immediately, but one of his four friends kicked me in the head and together the five of them kicked the living crap out of me. I do not recommend following someone to the ground in the real world unless you simply have to disable someone, in which case it's probably best to just throw him and let concrete do the work.

Or throw them into their attacking friends. Two or three birds with one stone. Video games told me that's easy to do

 

[NHB7]

My bad bro, got confused. That should've been directed to @NHB7.

When I was 17 and thought I was pretty much the next Royce Gracie (I had a whitebelt in BJJ), I rolled with a few SJSU judo guys. SJSU is one of most respected collegiate Judo teams. I tapped some brown belts and even one black belt. So I figured Judo was stupid (granted all of these sparring sessions started on the knees).

Eventually I learned that these guys were members of the Judo club, not Judo team and there is a big difference. They had earned their belts by taking Judo classes in college. The black belts on the team had been doing Judo since they were like 5.

When I rolled with Judo lifers, I got may ass handed to me.

 

[Agent Mulder's Hair]

I know next to nothing about striking but I heard that's largely a myth, though. Beating the crap out of your limbs doesn't make the bones stronger it just kills the nerves so you feel less or no pain.

Idk man. I skateboarded for about 20 years. And my shins felt like they're made of steel. I used to take tae kwon do as a teenager, while I was still a skateboarder. And whenever me and somebody else would shin clash in TKD class, they would always drop immediately, and it would never phase me a bit. Was actually pretty cool

I also used to be super into Bruce Lee and had all his books, and read how he'd train his knuckles. And I used to do similar training. Like I bought a makiwara board and put it on a tree and punched it regularly. To this day I can punch a hard object and feel almost no pain in my knuckles.

You could be right. It could just be dead nerves. Idk. But personally it kind of feels like the bones might have re-calcified or whatever and become a little stronger. But who knows?






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[Agent Mulder's Hair]

Where is Sambo? I would rank that pretty highly.

true

 

[Krav McGraw]

Kung Fu has no business being on that list. It's probably the worst martial art ever.

 

[Agent Mulder's Hair]

Kung Fu has no business being on that list. It's probably the worst martial art ever.

no that would be aikido

 

[Striderx5]

As someone who has trained traditional karate ( shotokan) for over 20 years.... it is not effective. Traditional teaching lacks realistic scenarios that give students an idea of what could happen. All karateka should train in muay Thai and grappling imo. But then again... I don't know sht so take it or leave it.

 

[chubbman]

No krav maga? I am shocked