'Top Ten Most Effective Martial Arts' (Video)

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This is an interesting video. The guy goes through his list and explains his reasoning on why he ranked them the way he did. He seems quite knowledgable.

He starts the list at 2:05



If you don't want to bother hearing his explanations, here's his list (1 being the best)

1. Muay Thai
2. Kung Fu (he explains what he means since 'Kung Fu' is a very broad term)
3. MMA (basically mixed style)
4. Kyokushin Karate
5. BJJ
6. Tae Kwon Do
7. Judo
8. Kick-Boxing
9. Boxing
10. Traditional Karate

Do you agree with this guy's list and his reasoning behind his choices? What would be your top 5?
 
I think it depends largely on the person, and their physicality, and any natural talents or affinities, rather than a list or ranking of the arts themselves.

One person may be suited well to Judo due to an innate understanding, another person might have great flexibility and take to jiujitsu, while another person may be a natural at throwing hands & moving like a boxer.
 
Peteyandjia said:
I think it depends largely on the person, and their physicality, and any natural talents or affinities, rather than a list or ranking of the arts themselves.

One person may be suited well to Judo due to an innate understanding, another person might have great flexibility and take to jiujitsu, while another person may be a natural at throwing hands & moving like a boxer.
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He mentions what you just said at the beginning and he says, for the sake of the list, to imagine it's the same person/athlete trying the styles and which would be the most effective (against other styles and in a street fighting scenario).
 
Horse Style said:
He mentions what you just said at the beginning and he says, for the sake of the list, to imagine it's the same person/athlete trying the styles and which would be the most effective (against other styles and in a street fighting scenario).
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Not trying to be difficult, but that person would probably have an affinity for one or several, and not for others. And it would be no fault of the arts, because another person would take to different arts.

Just to play along & answer your question though, in general, I'd probably say these, in no particular order:

Wrestling
Jiujitsu
Boxing
Judo
Karate
 
Interesting vid. Here are a few thoughts:

1. A big part of the problem with discussing this kind of thing is that people often confuse the art with the most common training styles or competition styles. Case in point, traditional karate, he docks it points because the sparring style is stop-point. But I used to train at a wado-ryu school that NEVER did stop-point sparring. It was always continuous sparring with medium contact to the body and light contact to the face. So I think if we're going to look at an art, look at the actual techniques because the way those techniques are trained or the way different schools spar can vary.

2. Having such a wide gulf between kickboxing and Muay Thai doesn't make a lot of sense. The styles are very similar.

3. Really, if we're going to judge MMA as a single style then it really should be #1. After all, it is THE style which combines all styles, and we've seen what happens to pure strikers who step into the cage.

4. Not really sure why TKD is ahead of kickboxing or even traditional karate. What the fuck does this guy have against kickboxing? Also, he fails to take into account that there are actually TWO major TKD styles: WTF/Olympic TKD and ITF/Traditional TKD. ITF TKD shores up a lot of deficiencies that he mentions, like not blocking or using your hands.

5. It's interesting that he puts kung fu at #2 and then refers to Shaolin kung fu and wing chun as the most effective styles (which are supposedly going to beat out all the shit ahead of it). I think those styles are interesting, but the only kung fu style--if we're going to call it one--that I consider especially effective is Sanshou.

6. Arguments could be made for the superiority of Judo vs BJJ, especially since not all Judo is trained in the Olympic fashion.
 
Just subjective opinions. For example, I never really respected Judo, then I sparred a bunch of great Judo practitioners. And to be clear, they do a lot more than is allowed in competition, even in MMA. And a throw and slam on a mat looks pretty painless, but do that same thing on a curb and you kill someone.
 
lol regardless of how broad a term kung fu is . the art today is in absolute shambles. someone who can even passably spar thats a practitioner much less fight is rare
 
NHB7 said:
Just subjective opinions. For example, I never really respected Judo, then I sparred a bunch of great Judo practitioners. And to be clear, they do a lot more than is allowed in competition, even in MMA. And a throw and slam on a mat looks pretty painless, but do that same thing on a curb and you kill someone.
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There are also some nasty standing armbreaks in Judo, that aren't really for competition - there is no time to tap, they are designed to just break it.
 
MMA is most effective (though is an unfair mix of anything that works within the rules), followed by bjj/judo, followed by wrestling. All the rest need not apply without mastery in one of the former.

Best base, wrestling.
 
Lars not only sucks at drums, but he sucks at making youtube videos too
 
  1. War- Hand to hand combat, Krav Maga, Combat Sambo, Eskrima, Silat, Systema, Ninjutsu (and no, I'm not talking about a TMA at the local mall) Combat Judo (not the Olympic crap)
  2. Vale tudo, Pankration, NHB
  3. MMA, Free Style, Thugjitsu, Train teh UFC's
  4. Jiu Jitsu, Wrestling, Muay Thai, Boxing, Kick Boxing
  5. (S.A.F.T.A), Art Jimmersonfu, Reading the heavy's
  6. Watching lots of James Thomson Fights, Training Abu Schabi, Rush Fit
  7. Watch Dog Fight Documentary
 
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Say what you will about the "competition" rule sets. Any art that trains as they would fight is legit.

In no order at all: boxing, MT, judo, wrestling, BJJ, mma
 
it really has to be Modern MMA, or Combat Sambo.

the last 20+ years of UFC and PRIDE has taught us this. I love BJJ but like has been stated ad nauseaum for years on this site in a "real fight" fight pulling guard might not be your best option.

if it's "one on one" mano y mano on copa cabana vs a capoeira guy yeah pull guard and invite him into your male zone(no romo). but the American nightclub/ bar scene..... with dude's friends around to kick you in the head as you try and get spider guard going...aint a gone be a good look.

Bruce Lee said Boxing and wrestling. the UFC has showed us that a Wrestling base with knowledge of Newaza submissions is king. throw in Boxing and unless you're up against a bad ass motherfucker on the street if you can box, wrestle, and choke you should be fine.....





















































unless that someone is me or Chuck Norris
 
I didn't watch the video, but my knee-jerk reaction is to completely disagree with the order of his list. I didn't listen to his explanations, so I can't trash his list but mine would be more like:

For fighting a random person:
1. MMA
2. Sanda/sanshou (not possible to find a legit school for it here, but it is a pretty awesome combination of standup grappling and striking)
3. Wrestling/judo/jiu-jitsu (any one of these should be enough to take someone down and destroy them)
4. Muay thai/kickboxing
5. Boxing
6. Karate
7. Other TMA

For competing against trained people/comparison for effectiveness against other arts:

1. Wrestling/bjj
2. Kickboxing/muay thai
3. Boxing
4. Judo
5. Karate
6. All else
 
and why do I never tire of these threads? I'm disappointed in myself for even posting lol
 
cool and interesting video. Guy understands martial arts better than most morons on youtube.

BUT, imo it's stupid to rank mma as #3, and kung fu and muay thai above it, when mma incorporates muay thai and kung fu, and literally everything else.
 
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