Top catch-as-catch-can/shoot-wrestling practicioners...?

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  1. Kforcer

    Kforcer Dragon Slayer

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    Limited to 1993 onward and limiting it to those that compete...what would such a list look like?

    Some names to consider for it would be:

    -Sakuraba
    -Funaki
    -Suzuki
    -Sato
    -Frank Shamrock
    -Josh Barnett
    -Dan Severn
    -Imanari
    -Tokoro
    -Ken Shamrock
    -Tamura
    -Sudo
    -John Lewis (LeBelle)
    -Karo Parisyan (LeBelle)
    -Kondo
    -Gomi
    -Sakurai

    Such a list has never really been attempted before, far as I can tell. Interesting to think about, at least for me. Carl Malenko is of course, catch-as-catch-can...but I don't know if he would make a "best of" list, though I'm sure he's technically awesome.
     
  2. flyingknee16

    flyingknee16 Brown Belt

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    Sudo is not catch as catch can... he trained BJJ at the Beverley Hills Jiu Jitsu Club and is a brown belt. I know he's done wrestling in college but IIRC he is not CACC.
     
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    Masakatsu Funaki #1 Black Belt

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    Yeah, Genki doesn't really have any direct links to Catch, besides wrestling Greco-Roman in school.
     
  4. Masakatsu Funaki #1

    Masakatsu Funaki #1 Black Belt

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    Jiro Wakabayshi
    Naoya Uematsu
    Kyo Saski
    Tsyoshi Kohsaka
    Ryu Ueyama
    Tafumi Ito
    Osami Shibyua

    (I'll post more as they come to me)
     
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    Catch_Shannon White Belt

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    Erik Paulson, Fuke, Alexander Otsuka and Hidetaka Aso too. Great thread :)
     
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    Ryo Chonnan?? I may be way off on that. Anyone know?
     
  7. Matt Thornton

    Matt Thornton Amateur Fighter

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    How could you forget the King of Catch, Matt Furey?

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    Someone get a needle-and-thread, because this guy is RIPPED.

    And no, in case you're wondering, Matt Furey jokes are not going to get old with me for a very, very long time :icon_lol:
     
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    flyingknee16 Brown Belt

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    Yeah... Chonan's trained under Tamura, so he's CACC I guess.
     
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    Stephan Kesting Green Belt

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    I'm glad that someone added Erik Paulson, because he has probably done more to spread the awareness of catchwrestling (via Shooto/Shootwrestling) than anyone else currently active in North America

    Stephan Kesting
    www.grapplearts.com
     
  10. Kforcer

    Kforcer Dragon Slayer

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    With his shot, I guarantee he wrestled freestyle extensively as well...anyway, Beverly Hills Jiu-Jitsu is more of a submission grappling place than expressly a BJJ place. I know that Genki Sudo is a brown belt in BJJ, but before all that, he was brought up as a Pancrase fighter, which usually--for the Japanese--means living, eating and training with a Pancrase team.

    I would say he's got as much catch/shoot-wrestling as he does BJJ, if not more--clearly, his style such as it is aesthetically resembles catch/shoot-wrestling more than BJJ.
     
  11. Kforcer

    Kforcer Dragon Slayer

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    Great call on Erik Paulson...! IMO, Otsuka is way underrated...clearly his shoddy knees caused a fairly swift deteroriation as far as fighting efficacy goes. In the early Prides, I found is takedowns good and mentality also a very good one...calm but very tough.
     
  12. Masakatsu Funaki #1

    Masakatsu Funaki #1 Black Belt

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    I remember that bout with Craig Oxley, where he did that spin into a achilles ankle lock. v
     
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    gomi could go in there somewhere
     
  14. Foolkiller

    Foolkiller You have meddled with the primal forces of nature!

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    Fred Rado is the top pancrase instructor in France, does he count?

    Hockeyfacekilla, Gomi's already listed. Please read threads before posting in them.

    Didn't Kohsaka have a judo background first?
     
  15. Cardio

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    What do these guys *SUDO, SAKURABA, etc. in Japan call their wrestling??? Obviously not "Catch-as-Catch-Can"
     
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    Bcva boxing White Belt

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    what is''catch-as-catch-can''??
    can someone explain?
     
  17. Kforcer

    Kforcer Dragon Slayer

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    Actually, quite often times, they do call it just that. In fact, they often call submission wrestling matches "catch" matches and in Shooto, submissions are referred to as "catches".

    Sakuraba, especially, is in direct catch-as-catch-can lineage, having trained submissions first in the UWF Snake Pit, which was run by Billy Robinson.
     
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    Kforcer Dragon Slayer

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    Right, that's why I didn't include TK even though obviously he's trained with and been influenced by catch/shoot guys.
     
  19. Half Boston Crab

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    Yeah, that's hard to forget.
     
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    fujita also ?
     

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