Top 3 MMA Heavyweights of all time: 1. Fedor 2. DC 3. Miocic

[orca]

Fedor fought much younger, faster and more explosive versions of Arlovski and Hunt than Stipe did.

Stipe fought them when they were very old.

fedor wont survive the version of the guys stipe fought stop being delusional
fedors resume look like a trash too

 

[orca]

no I do not acknowledge that. I believe that comparing different eras is an inaccurate assessment tool. Who would win in a boxing match between Rocky Marciano and Tyson Fury? Different eras, different training, science, and cultures.

Stipe has a great resume but it is not better than Fedor’s, in my opinion.

You also avoided answering my question because you don’t know how to debate people.

so u acknowledge and believe that mw hendo can beat stipe right?
lol at beating nog and cro cop fedors best wins
u also believe fedor would survive against guys stipe fought?

 

[Senzo Tanaka]

Fedor > Big Nog > Werdum. It gets complicated after that. Stipe cracks the top 10 but I don't think DC's run was all that impressive. Top 20 maybe.

 

[Typrune Goatley]

fedor wont survive the version of the guys stipe fought stop being delusional
fedors resume look like a trash too

Fedor had amazing resume.

Fedor beat Arlovski in his absolute prime. Fedor beat Hunt in his physical prime while Fedor was injured, barely trying and had a change of opponent.

Stipe went all the way into the 5th round with Hunt and had to break the record for most stikes landed because he was on top of Hunt and didn't have the skill set to finish Hunt sooner like Fedor had.

 

[Typrune Goatley]

so u acknowledge and believe that mw hendo can beat stipe right?
lol at beating nog and cro cop fedors best wins
u also believe fedor would survive against guys stipe fought?

Hendo can KO any man on earth, young troll.

Why the LOL?

And yes, Fedor beat some of the same guys Stipe fought, except when they were a decade younger and less damaged. Stipe fought them when they were old and past prime.

 

[ConditFan]

DC isn't even close

 

[Saye_mc]

Love me some DC bit dude had the chance with two rivalries to prove he wads the best fighter in LHW and HW at the time and came up short in both

 

[leatherneck]

fedor
jds
cain

 

[orca]

Hendo can KO any man on earth, young troll.

Why the LOL?

And yes, Fedor beat some of the same guys Stipe fought, except when they were a decade younger and less damaged. Stipe fought them when they were old and past prime.

u believe hendo can beat stipe right?
lol thats how wide the skill gap of stipe is from fedor
theres a reason he lost because he fought better fighters

 

[orca]

Fedor had amazing resume.

Fedor beat Arlovski in his absolute prime. Fedor beat Hunt in his physical prime while Fedor was injured, barely trying and had a change of opponent.

Stipe went all the way into the 5th round with Hunt and had to break the record for most stikes landed because he was on top of Hunt and didn't have the skill set to finish Hunt sooner like Fedor had.

lol those prime fighters your talking about wont survive the peak skilled fighters that stipe fought

 

[gspieler]

No one cares about your link, it is irrelevant.

Statistics without the proper context are often irrelevant.

Fedor lost by KO in the first round against a completely washed out old MW, that's all what we need to know about his real level.

This idiotic argument never seems to die. Hendo was an anomaly in mma. He fought in 3 weight classes, was a wrestler who became known for legendary ko's, and peaked in his late 30's. And at the time he fought Fedor, he openly juiced, was on arguably the hottest streak of his career, and in no way can be interpreted as mw(literally weighed in at 206, vs 220 fir Fedor). And due respect to Hendo, but still almost lost to a version of Fedor that was a shell of what he had been 5-10 years earlier.

Here's visual evidence Fedir fighting 2 weight classes down, lmao...

 

[Deleted member 110072]

Hendo can KO any man on earth, young troll.

Why the LOL?

And yes, Fedor beat some of the same guys Stipe fought, except when they were a decade younger and less damaged. Stipe fought them when they were old and past prime.

I would point out as well it wasnt a case of Fedor being dropped by the H-bomb, indeed in the regular standup of that fight Fedor took several big shots from Hendo and then he dropped Hendo himself.

It was a punch landed from behind in the clinch on an off balance fighter and then some very questionable follow up GnP to the back of the head which the UFC's favourite ref surprise surprise had no problem with.

 

[pankrat]

This idiotic argument never seems to die. Hendo was an anomaly in mma. He fought in 3 weight classes, was a wrestler who became known for legendary ko's, and peaked in his late 30's. And at the time he fought Fedor, he openly juiced, was on arguably the hottest streak of his career, and in no way can be interpreted as mw(literally weighed in at 206, vs 220 fir Fedor). And due respect to Hendo, but still almost lost to a version of Fedor that was a shell of what he had been 5-10 years earlier.

Here's visual evidence Fedir fighting 2 weight classes down, lmao...

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It's indeed an idiotic argument but Fedor was legitimely two weightclases bigger than Hendo and Lindland, who weren's even big MWs. It's not very smart to compare them by the eye test based on weight in pictures where the thickness gap is notable anyways.
Or any picture when we know their actual fighting weight:

Fedor competed at 230-235 during his career. Hendo did at 200-205.
It's a massive feat to overcome a 30lbs dissadvantage for a 200lbs man, more so vs a fighter of Fedor's caliber

 

[gspieler]

It's indeed an idiotic argument but Fedor was legitimely two weightclases bigger than Hendo and Lindland, who weren's even big MWs. It's not very smart to compare them by the eye test based on weight in pictures where the thickness gap is notable anyways.
Or any picture when we know their actual fighting weight:

Fedor competed at 230-235 during his career. Hendo did at 200-205.
It's a massive feat to overcome a 30lbs dissadvantage for a 200lbs man, more so vs a fighter of Fedor's caliber

We don’t have to rely on the eye test. Fedor, quote literally, was not “two weight classes bigger than Hendo”, on the night they fought. Nor was he two weight classes bigger, in general. Even a quick exam of their careers would show Fedor could be considered a small HW, while Hendo could best be described as a small LHW. The difference in their size is grossly exaggerated by haters. But if you want to include the eye test…then yes; neither the scale, nor the eye test, nor their career records suggest Fedor was fighting a man two weight classes beneath. It is a flatout asinine argument to make.

And yes, Fedor was noticeably thicker than Hendo; hence why he had 15-20 lbs on him. None of that changes that Hendo wasn’t a MW, Hendo was openly juicing, and still prime-ish.

 

[Starman]

This is my list for top 3 MMA Heavyweights of all time:

1. Fedor (obviously)
2. DC
3. Miocic

Do you agree? If not, why? And what is your list?

Opinions?

Discuss.

I agree with the first two. I’d put Big Nog as #3, followed by Cain and JDS.

 

[Starman]

Jon Jones >>>

Jon Jones is a drug cheat.

 

[BFoe]

No one cares about your link, it is irrelevant.

Statistics without the proper context are often irrelevant.

Fedor lost by KO in the first round against a completely washed out old MW, that's all what we need to know about his real level.

Rofl, now Hendo was “completely washed” as well? <45><Lmaoo>
Was 5-1 in his previous 6 fights and was Strikeforce LHW champ just a few months before, had his legendary fight with Shogun in the very next fight after Fedor (Shogun having been UFC LHW champ earlier that same year). But sure….”completely washed.”

Never change, Yellowcrab. At least you add in new trolls every so often to keep the act fresh.

 

[pankrat]

We don’t have to rely on the eye test. Fedor, quote literally, was not “two weight classes bigger than Hendo”, on the night they fought. Nor was he two weight classes bigger, in general. Even a quick exam of their careers would show Fedor could be considered a small HW, while Hendo could best be described as a small LHW.

A quick or deep exam of their careers shows what it shows. IIs stated in the post you just replied so stop pretending. Here is the source:
https://www.tapology.com/fightcenter/fighters/fedor-emelianenko-the-last-emperor
https://www.tapology.com/fightcenter/fighters/dan-henderson-hollywood

Hendo fight night weight during his career was average for a MW, specially by today standards. He literally didnt cut weight to make LHW or weighted under the limit.
In modern prizefighting, that means you are fighing above your weightclass.
And you should know it, so cut the BS.

Fedor and Hendo consistently fought around 30lbs apart during their long tenured career. Its widely reported. Not a debate.

The difference in their size is grossly exaggerated by haters. But if you want to include the eye test…then yes; neither the scale, nor the eye test, nor their career records suggest Fedor was fighting a man two weight classes beneath.

Do not hide behind haters. Its evident who has the bias here.
You are the one who brings a weight in picture eyetest as ONLY argument to support your stance. Not me.

Their career record not suggest but conlude what I exposed above. It's not debatable.

It is a flatout asinine argument to make..

Just stop

Fedor, quote literally, was not “two weight classes bigger than Hendo”, on the night they fought.

Not sure whats your point here with that little BS of "quote literally"....
I hope it's not what it looks: the kind of cheap argument you could try and apply for BJ vs Machida.

In any case, you don't need to act like that to defend Fedor from the sherbro hate around his loss to Henderson

 

[gspieler]

A quick or deep exam of their careers shows what it shows. IIs stated in the post you just replied so stop pretending. Here is the source:
https://www.tapology.com/fightcenter/fighters/fedor-emelianenko-the-last-emperor
https://www.tapology.com/fightcenter/fighters/dan-henderson-hollywood

Hendo fight night weight during his career was average for a MW, specially by today standards. He literally didnt cut weight to make LHW or weighted under the limit.
In modern prizefighting, that means you are fighing above your weightclass.
And you should know it, so cut the BS.

Fedor and Hendo consistently fought around 30lbs apart during their long tenured career. Its widely reported. Not a debate.



Do not hide behind haters. Its evident who has the bias here.
You are the one who brings a weight in picture eyetest as ONLY argument to support your stance. Not me.

Their career record not suggest but conlude what I exposed above. It's not debatable.



Just stop



Not sure whats your point here with that little BS of "quote literally"....
I hope it's not what it looks: the kind of cheap argument you could try and apply for BJ vs Machida.

In any case, you don't need to act like that to defend Fedor from the sherbro hate around his loss to Henderson

Dude, they were ~15ish apart on fight night. Indeed, “quite literally” they were not separated by two weight classes, your mental gymnastics aside. And again; Hendo was an anomaly, who had a long history of fighting in several weight classes(including HW).

Bottom line is, Fedor was the slightly bigger man, both that night, and throughout their respective careers. When someone uses the “he lost a guy two weight classes below” argument, unironically, they expose themselves as a hater, or just ignorant.

 

[pankrat]

Dude, they were ~15ish apart on fight night. Indeed, “quite literally” they were not separated by two weight classes, your mental gymnastics aside. And again; Hendo was an anomaly, who had a long history of fighting in several weight classes(including HW).

Bottom line is, Fedor was the slightly bigger man, both that night, and throughout their respective careers. When someone uses the “he lost a guy two weight classes below” argument, unironically, they expose themselves as a hater, or just ignorant.

Are you impying that Fedor didnt cut weight to make 223lbs? You are either a noob or you are delivering an epic display of ridiculous bias holly shit.

Fedor fought 230-235 in fight night his whole career. Heavier in recent years, in his 40s.

Hendo fought at 200-205 his whole career, at 20s, 30s or 40s. He weighted heavier than ever (207lbs) to fight Fedor.

A 30lbs gap. Not debatable. Have a bit of respect for yourself if not for your talker

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Bottom line is, Fedor was the slightly bigger man, both that night, and throughout their respective careers. .