Tony Ferguson has ONE top-5 win in the UFC

[Mayonnaiseandjelly]

He had a couple of nice top-10 wins against Thomson and Edson, but, Tony's win over Rafael Dos Anjos was his lone top-5 win in the UFC.
Yes, he was very good and his win streak was VERY impressive, but is it not possible that he was hugely overestimated and overrated?
There are people that still SWEAR that he would have beaten Khabib.

I realize he's a bit older, but once he started fighting the REAL cream of the crop in Gaethje, Charles, Beneil, etc., look what happened.

Imagine underrating prime RDA and overrating Beniel dariush. Tony would have beaten gaethje, dariush and oliveira in his prime.

 

[BJJ4Tone]

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[BJJ4Tone]

Imagine underrating prime RDA and overrating Beniel dariush. Tony would have beaten gaethje, dariush and oliveira in his prime.

I'm sorry, at what point did I underestimate RDA?
Literally all I said about him was that he was Tony's only top-5 win. Which is true.

 

[SuperNerd]

Ts is being a shit head.

Nobody, or few, people thought he was a lock to beat Khabib

Tony is a fun, daring, unique and pretty good fighter. So he has fans.
Fans can say silly shit. Lots thought he could draw an exciting fight out of Khabib.

We wanted to see that, a good fight

 

[Dastard]

TS I have just one question, where's your kid at?!

 

[C0NCH3TO]

Tony was a damn good fighter, his wins are noteworthy and bad luck and decisions played into his demise. He was old and trained with his highschool buds by the time he fought a very dangerous guy in Justin. No bueno.

Was he gonna beat Khabib or be the undisputed lw goat? No. But he was on a crazy streak and scary to fight lol.

 

[Mayonnaiseandjelly]

I'm sorry, at what point did I underestimate RDA?
Literally all I said about him was that he was Tony's only top-5 win. Which is true.

By going on to say..”once he faced the real cream of the crop he lost”

 

[Dana's Conscience]

Disregard Charles and Beneil. Tony was a shell of himself when he fought those two.

 

[Viking Power]

If this conversation is too difficult for you, you needn't participate.
At no point did I suggest he wasn't any good. In fact, if you had read my post, I was complimentary of him.
I simply raised the question of whether we judged his win streak accurately and if it was as good as we thought it was at the time.
I can't tell if you're not smart or if you're just in your feelings. Either way, get well soon. We're all cheering for you.

Haha. Fuck off.

 

[BigDramaShow26]

He was always overrated to me. So hittable. Rocked in multiple fights. He has one very good win. He was able to fight a ton of guys who fall under pressure once he was already declining like Cowboy, Pettis, Lee.

 

[mkt]

Imagine underrating prime RDA and overrating Beniel dariush. Tony would have beaten gaethje, dariush and oliveira in his prime.

Not 100% sure on that, but I think Tony would've beaten Gaethje around the same time Eddie Alvarez and Poirier did (first fight). Tony was still in or around his prime, and Gaethje was less technical and almost a pure "just bleed" fighter at the time. I think Gaethje wins the first 2 rounds then Tony takes him into deep waters and finishes him later in the fight. Absolute prime vs. prime is harder to call. I think the Gaethje whom Tony fought was probably the best, most High IQ and conditiioned version I've seen...and Tony was clearly on his way downhill (even evident in his last few wins).

 

[OldFashion]

Prime Tony was vs Josh. That was his best ever IMHO, vs an extremely underrated fighter in Josh.

His best was the 5 round total domination of RDA at elevation. One of the best performances ever

 

[mkt]

This kind of thing is always uncertain because Tony just fought who they put in front of him. He had no control over how many were current Top 5. I think he could've been champ sometime between BJ and Khabib, when the belt went from Frankie to Bendo to Pettis to RDA to Eddie Alavarez to Conor. In fact, he beat two of those guys. I'd give him a good chance against those other champs along with Poirier, Gaethje and others when he was younger...say 2018 and earlier.

 

[mkt]

His best was the 5 round total domination of RDA at elevation. One of the best performances ever

Same RDA that absolutely dominated Pettis and Nate and the first guy to KO Bendo (in Round 1 at that).

 

[markg171]

His best was the 5 round total domination of RDA at elevation. One of the best performances ever

Huh? Tony won 48-47, not 50-45. He lost rounds 1 and 3, and only won round 2 because he eyepoked the fuck out of RDA and had him blinded him for that round.

He only took over in rounds 4-5 after RDA slowed down as they were fighting at elevation. But that would've still been a 48-47 loss without the game changing eyepoke that gave him his only early round and instead gave himself the 48-47 card.

Which is the story of quite a few of his fights where he just does something illegal and then takes advantage of it to win.

 

[Ladder Master]

There are people that still SWEAR that he would have beaten Khabib.

Tony showed up, made weight for 209 and was ready.
Khabib failed his weight cut, went to hospital, and never showed up to fight.
Tony 1 Khabib 0

Spoiler

 

[ComfortablyNumb55]

Tony the type of guy to live rent free on OP.

 

[Fight Professor]

You really can't seeing as most people end up losing instead of having such a horse shoe up their ass.

Tony's streak was incredibly lucky. That's why it was so fun. He was never on some GSP or MM kinda run where they were winning because they were that much better than their opponents. He was pulling off wins.

There are some intangibles as well like Tony’s craziness and determination that made him lucky. That is a part of fighting as well.

 

[agibmxmma]

I love Tony as much as anybody else but his win streak was way overblown at the time anyway.

He was struggling badly with borderline washed fighters like Cerrone and Pettis. Both kicked his ass until they gassed and he took over. Pettis gassed AND broke his hand which was unfortunate.

A complete unknown in Lando almost finished him multiple times and Vanatta has gone on to show he's just about UFC caliber at best. He's never going to make waves at either weightclass he fights in.

Even Danny Castillo, who was good but not great or ever a contender, he was arguably robbed vs Tony.

This +1

 

[NoSmilez]

You guys are disrespectful. Man got old and now you are saying he always sucked. Charles, Justin and Benny weren't even in title contention when Tony was in the middle of his streak. I don't think they were even top ten at the time. I don't think he ducked anyone and he fought ranked opponents until he couldn't win anymore. His style isn't suited for longevity. He trained like an idiot and he fought recklessly.