To the people who think GSP layed and prayed..

MusterX said:
I kinda agree with you, kinda. Georges out struck pretty much everyone he ever fought and he out grappled pretty much everyone he ever fought, same as Fedor. GSP neutralized his opponents strengths.
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He did, but not quite the same. I mean like Fedor kickboxing Crocop and sitting in nogs guard beating him up.. Gsp wouldn't have done that, because he fought smart and safe. He could have outstruck hardy, but why risk it? Same with Alves. I don't say this as an insult, but his biggest fans always take it that way. Not sure why. GSP is pretty much the only goat whose legacy hasn't been tainted in some way, let's just be happy about that and not try to pretend he was aggressively pursuing finishes because he just wasn't. And that's OK.
 
TheRassler said:
Expecting a fighter to get finishes when a fighter fights safe for 10 years is more unrealistic.
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I think everyone here already knows what you are all about. So if a fighter can fight safe as you say, for 10 whole years and shut down the games of all the top contenders not allowing them to make him feel unsafe, lol, then how fucking good is that guy right? Heh.
 
suffersystem said:
Well, he did finish Matt Hughes, Matt Serra and BJ Penn after losing his title to Serra.

It really wasn't until 2 or 3 years after his Serra loss that his decision streak started.
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Asian is just a troll account. Not a very good one either, lol.
 
if some people seriously characterize GSP as a lay'n'pray fighter, then it tells me that they are either revisionist fans who forget his fights (assuming they even saw them in the first place) or they don't even know what that phrase means.

"look at all GSP's decision wins"...yeah, and look at what condition his opponents tended to be in afterwards (cue some dummy posting a post-fight GSP-Hendricks pic, as if that in isolation is evidence of anything lol)
 
Those stats don't mean shit to those of us who suffered through his fights live. His fight with Hardy was probably how he tied Maia for subs, that was funny stuff that night. And in boxing anything besides a jab is considered a sig strike so I wouldn't put much into that stat either. I'm sure he also holds the record for getting his face rearranged by Jake Shields, no one else has accomplished that.

GSP isn't so different from me though cause I couldn't finish his fights either.
 
WalkenWouldOwn said:
He did, but not quite the same. I mean like Fedor kickboxing Crocop and sitting in nogs guard beating him up.. Gsp wouldn't have done that, because he fought smart and safe. He could have outstruck hardy, but why risk it? Same with Alves. I don't say this as an insult, but his biggest fans always take it that way. Not sure why. GSP is pretty much the only goat whose legacy hasn't been tainted in some way, let's just be happy about that and not try to pretend he was aggressively pursuing finishes because he just wasn't. And that's OK.
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Oh I agree, and I'm not saying he was aggressively pursuing finishes, just that whatever your strength was, Georges was better.
 
refs dont allow lay n pray these days. its been many many years....
 
Magx951 said:
He has the most strikes landed in the UFC, and the same number of submission attempts as BJJ wizard Demaian Maia.

He's landed the 4th most significant strikes in UFC history, and a significant strike defense of 73.1%

and those stats are while he's fighting top contenders in one of the most stacked divisions ever, cleaning his division out twice.
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I don't think anything. He was a boring ass lay n prayer his whole career. One finish of Bisping didn't wipe out the shitty taste of his lay n pray career.
 
Squall10 said:
I don't think anything. He was a boring ass lay n prayer his whole career. One finish of Bisping didn't wipe out the shitty taste of his lay n pray career.
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"He was a boring ass lay n prayer his whole career"
"I dont think anything"

Statement 1 is only an understandable viewpoint if statement 2 is true for you, so clearly you're right on that one.

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BTW.. if you're gonna talk shit about a GOAT at least look up his wikipedia record noob. "his whole career"? before he became champ he was finishing people left and right.
 
It's not like all of his decision victories were boring shit, either. He beat the living fuck out of Fitch, handled Alves pretty impressively, and punched Josh Koscheck in the face for 25 minutes. The Shields fight was pretty bad and I remember the Condit and Diaz fights only being exciting when GSP was getting tagged.
 
Only Here for Attachments said:
It's not like all of his decision victories were boring shit, either. He beat the living fuck out of Fitch, handled Alves pretty impressively, and punched Josh Koscheck in the face for 25 minutes. The Shields fight was pretty bad and I remember the Condit and Diaz fights only being exciting when GSP was getting tagged.
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The shields fight was bad because Shields was using the jon jones strategy, Condit and Diaz were boring because they had nothing for him other than one or two brief moments of success

seeing bjj black belt nick diaz have no idea what to do on the ground with gsp was pretty funny tbh, i still remember people saying Diaz would sub him from the guard
 
Most baby strikes landed, maybe.

I'm just kidding.
 
juncito said:
Those stats don't mean shit to those of us who suffered through his fights live. His fight with Hardy was probably how he tied Maia for subs, that was funny stuff that night. And in boxing anything besides a jab is considered a sig strike so I wouldn't put much into that stat either. I'm sure he also holds the record for getting his face rearranged by Jake Shields, no one else has accomplished that.

GSP isn't so different from me though cause I couldn't finish his fights either.
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Magx951 said:
The shields fight was bad because Shields was using the jon jones strategy, Condit and Diaz were boring because they had nothing for him other than one or two brief moments of success

seeing bjj black belt nick diaz have no idea what to do on the ground with gsp was pretty funny tbh, i still remember people saying Diaz would sub him from the guard
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Remember after the fight when nick accused George of spying because he defended his rolling kneebar attempts?! Lmao suddenly he's palhares gonna go out there and kneebar GSP with a very low percentage sub.
 
WalkenWouldOwn said:
Remember after the fight when nick accused George of spying because he defended his rolling kneebar attempts?! Lmao suddenly he's palhares gonna go out there and kneebar GSP with a very low percentage sub.
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then he made up some shit where GSP weighed in at 170.8 or some shit lmao
 
The people who think GSP layed and prayed are just idiots. That’s it
 
Liquid Samurai said:
All stats aside, of all the many years I ordered, hosted, and watched UFC ppv's, I can only remember 3 times that my company fell asleep. 1 of those times was Machida vs Henderson, the other 2 were GSP fights, take that how you want.
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Two things, stop letting your guests hit the bong before the main event and make sure all guests are actually mma fans.

You said take it how I want:)
 
It's one of the biggest myths in MMA.
 
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