News Titanic Tours Submersible missing in atlantic ocean

[avenue94]

Organic tissue would have lasted hours, at maximum.

It lasts much longer. Look up whale falls.

 

[GearSolidMetal]

It lasts much longer. Look up whale falls.

Whale carcasses are significantly bigger.

And THEIR organic material obviously can last longer in pressurized salt water. I could have been more specific but I don't like making posts twice as long being ultra-specific.

So keep in mind that in addition to the Titan sub passengers were just human-sized, their organic material being susceptible to advanced degradation in pressurized salt water.... they also were completely pulverized upon the implosion of the sub, which was the equivalent of being within 5 feet of a bomb explosion.

And the remnants of their bodies were 3800 meters below the ocean surface for 10 entire days.

 

[Prefect]

Stockton rush was too old and experienced to be making those mistakes. The guys who died too. One was an experienced aquatics. Seems they might have had a death wish.

I think that people really forget how much some people want to be part of the first group to do something. It isn't stupidity. Remember how many people signed up for a one way trip to mars, which basically amounted to dying in a tin can. It is an out of control ego that they need to be the first and better than everyone else.

 

[LEWIS540]

I think that people really forget how much some people want to be part of the first group to do something. It isn't stupidity. Remember how many people signed up for a one way trip to mars, which basically amounted to dying in a tin can. It is an out of control ego that they need to be the first and better than everyone else.

What were they trying to be the first of?

 

[Prefect]

What were they trying to be the first of?

Being part of the first 0.00000000000000000000000001% of the world population to see the Titanic.

 

[LEWIS540]

Being part of the first 0.00000000000000000000000001% of the world population to see the Titanic.

......so not the first.

Don't think there are 100000000000000000000000000, people, tbh. Not sure.

 

[MicroBrew]

'Presumed' being the key word.

Whatever was left immediately after the implosion, which wasn't much, had to be eaten away by saltwater (extremely corrosive) at a pressure that saying '400 atmospheres' doesn't quite get the point across.

Organic tissue would have lasted hours, at maximum.

By 'human remains' they probably mean clothing. I bet their metal belt buckles were found.

Saltwater wouldn't have corroded the metal parts that fast, otherwise the other deep submersibles would have also corroded enough to make them unsafe to use. Titanium is a non-ferrous metal so it is highly resistant to corrosion.

 

[Jesus X]

 

[GearSolidMetal]

Saltwater wouldn't have corroded the metal parts that fast, otherwise the other deep submersibles would have also corroded enough to make them unsafe to use. Titanium is a non-ferrous metal so it is highly resistant to corrosion.

I'm not arguing they'll not be able to recover anything metal. In fact I said the metal belt buckles would be recoverable.

I'm arguing that the 'human remains' recovered from the sub, is not organic tissue.

 

[avenue94]

Whale carcasses are significantly bigger.

And THEIR organic material obviously can last longer in pressurized salt water. I could have been more specific but I don't like making posts twice as long being ultra-specific.

So keep in mind that in addition to the Titan sub passengers were just human-sized, their organic material being susceptible to advanced degradation in pressurized salt water.... they also were completely pulverized upon the implosion of the sub, which was the equivalent of being within 5 feet of a bomb explosion.

And the remnants of their bodies were 3800 meters below the ocean surface for 10 entire days.

That's not how decomposition works. The CIA recovered multiple bodies when raising k-129 after 6 years at 15,000 feet. I'm not sure what critters you think are gobbling up bodies at that depth.

If there isn't organic matters it's because of the trauma of the implosion/explosion, not decomposition.

 

[GearSolidMetal]

That's not how decomposition works. The CIA recovered multiple bodies when raising k-129 after 6 years at 15,000 feet.

I'd very much like to know the details of the 'bodies' that were recovered because remains can be labeled as 'bodies.'

Also because I know, in grizzly detail, what happens in decomposition with corpses that are 'open air' meaning like they were found in a field, 'still water' being submerged in a fresh-water lake, 'moving water' a fresh-water river, and... I forgot the term for it... but when corpses are submerged in shallow (under 200 ft deep) salt-water for long term.

So knowing that, I'd be very interested in learning how corpses in deep (12,000+ ft deep) salt-water for extreme long-term could still exist.

I'm not sure what critters you think are gobbling up bodies at that depth.

Salt water alone is extremely corrosive towards organic matter. I'm not implying anything but it is 'gobbling' up the bodies.

That said, ya hear how the Titanic is degrading to the point its supposedly going to completely dissolve by 2040? That's not just because of the water pressure and salt corrosion, its because of... bacteria.

https://ocean.si.edu/ocean-life/bacteria-live-titanic-wreck

If there isn't organic matters it's because of the trauma of the implosion/explosion, not decomposition.

I'm thinking its all three...

*implosion/explosion.
*decomposition - what was left after the implosion/explosion would be exposed to salt water at extreme pressures 24/7 for 10 days.
*bacteria - what has been eating at the thick hull of the Titanic for 111 years to the point its about to collapse... would make quick work of any organic tissue.

 

[emefer]

Whale carcasses are significantly bigger.

And THEIR organic material obviously can last longer in pressurized salt water. I could have been more specific but I don't like making posts twice as long being ultra-specific.

So keep in mind that in addition to the Titan sub passengers were just human-sized, their organic material being susceptible to advanced degradation in pressurized salt water.... they also were completely pulverized upon the implosion of the sub, which was the equivalent of being within 5 feet of a bomb explosion.

And the remnants of their bodies were 3800 meters below the ocean surface for 10 entire days.

 

[HereticBD]

I didn’t think there’d be anything left tbh.. makes me question how they really went. Was it as quick as claimed?

They've probably got "something" that used to be human beings. If they've got a smushed part of the hull, there'd likely be some gooey bits in there. Not much, but something you can scrape up, burn, and put in an urn.

 

[tymikeson]

 

[tymikeson]

is anyone interested in my submersable i just built. promise its safe

 

[avenue94]

I'd very much like to know the details of the 'bodies' that were recovered because remains can be labeled as 'bodies.'

You'd have to ask the CIA there, it was a metal casket because of radiation.

Also because I know, in grizzly detail, what happens in decomposition with corpses that are 'open air' meaning like they were found in a field, 'still water' being submerged in a fresh-water lake, 'moving water' a fresh-water river, and... I forgot the term for it... but when corpses are submerged in shallow (under 200 ft deep) salt-water for long term.

So knowing that, I'd be very interested in learning how corpses in deep (12,000+ ft deep) salt-water for extreme long-term could still exist.

The water at that depth is nearly freezing, which preserves tissue and slows scavengers.

Salt water alone is extremely corrosive towards organic matter. I'm not implying anything but it is 'gobbling' up the bodies.

That said, ya hear how the Titanic is degrading to the point its supposedly going to completely dissolve by 2040? That's not just because of the water pressure and salt corrosion, its because of... bacteria.

Yes, a bacteria that eats iron essentially. Not the same stuff that causes decomposition. Salt water doesn't corrode a human body in less than two weeks. Otherwise we'd never find dead bodies in the ocean essentially.

decomposition - what was left after the implosion/explosion would be exposed to salt water at extreme pressures 24/7 for 10 days.

Exteme pressure is irrelevant here as internal and external pressure would have equalized. You aren't gonna find squished corpses at depth, to put it bluntly

 

[Jesus X]

Dam they pulled up half the thing

Man that is dark but the pieces are also larger than I expected.

 

[Jesus X]

Just like that bridge that collapsed had a bunch of diversity hires
And that train that derailed recently also had diversity hires running it

Folks should watch the deep sea challenge documentary to see the difference between james cameron capable and competent crew and this crew of imbeciles one of them was busy making tik toks at drag shows with a coworkers when they had to be focused of a life and death situation like the titan vessel.

 

[Jesus X]

is anyone interested in my submersable i just built. promise its safe

Lol at all the memes coming out.

 

[Jesus X]