Many people who frequent the S&P boards talk a big game about lifting (myself included at times) but we fail to see true results when it comes to strength. We look for all these new methods and new answers when the answers have been infront of our eyes since before we were born. I am tired, as I am sure many of you are, of sticking to the same weights and trying all this new BS writtne by people here which works no better than anything else. The only wey we are going to be truly bigger and stronger men is by !)LIfting Heavy, 2)Using Compound Movements 3)eating properly (4 Seeking advice from people who are already therer, not the people who have a new theory every weekand #(5 and quit possibly the most important DEDICATION. The second you have a bad workout does not mean your workout is not working. Even if you have a bad week, maybe your body is telling you it is time to take a week off. Don't always be looking for an excuse suh as "Im a hard gainer" because that does not fly with me and many others who put in the time and effort to get where they are. Suck it up and do it. This Thread is not just for those who want to be powerlifters hut also for those who want to be in MMA and strongman (Bobybuilding fags need not apply). Suck it up, quit with the excuses and do it. Work hard and smart. There are plenty of different templates on here that are proven to work. Plenty of the strong more knowledgeable men make themselves available to answer questions quite frequently, not to mention the numerous templates there are in the stickies. The point of this thread is not to bemean to people but rather to light a fire under some of your asses. Your weights stay the same for month after month and you've always got some kind of other excues when in reality the majority probably has to do with one minor tweak and a true understanding what Dedication and "GIVING IT YOUR ALL MEANS". Now go and do it guys. Lets not make this some faggy room with a bunch of the same old whiners with same old questions and same old questions whining around. Lets make thie a room where serious athletes who want to be the best they can possibly be come and stay and seek information, a room where we can motivate each other and help each other out along the way. Sorry for the long rant guys but I hope most of you agree. Lets do this!!!