Tipping on call in/internet orders

[Joe Mama]

This has been something that has kinda bugged me for some time.

When you go to pick up your order that you called in or placed online (and pay for via, Credit/Debit Card)

They always seem to have 3 lines - Total, Tip, Total.

I almost feel 'obligated' to leave at least a buck in tip even though they did absolutely NOTHING aside from fulfilling my order like I expected them to. I totally get the fact that they are raped by the CC/Debitors for accepting this form of payment, but if I paid in cash they wouldn't have the expectation (at least on the paper I sign) of a tip.

How do you deal with this when using plastic to pay?

 

[Fuzzybabyducks]

whenever I call in/order online, I pay when I pick it up. I always tip a buck or two because I know that most of them are stuck on curbside/online/pickups and losing out on tips for the day.

whats an extra buck or two

 

[Joe Mama]

From the perspective of "Well, at least you are gainfully employed" I can see your point.

I just almost feel uncomfortable and 'obligated' to tip for services that were not really worked for as if I went to dine in.

When dining in and receiving a more personalized service, I have no problem tipping (and tipping adequately).
But when I use the internet or phone to submit my order, I have a harder time justifying the paying 'extra' for what I agreed to pay (that they have posted)
Although, I do feel like a cheapskate if I dont... And I dont like that.

 

[Fuzzybabyducks]

From the perspective of "Well, at least you are gainfully employed" I can see your point.

I just almost feel uncomfortable and 'obligated' to tip for services that were not really worked for as if I went to dine in.

When dining in and receiving a more personalized service, I have no problem tipping (and tipping adequately).
But when I use the internet or phone to submit my order, I have a harder time justifying the paying 'extra' for what I agreed to pay (that they have posted)
Although, I do feel like a cheapskate if I dont... And I dont like that.

you tip a lot more when you dine in... When you order curbside someone still has to take the order and pack it. a buck or two is a good tip for that.

 

[spin]

It's not like they're going to make a separate ticket template without tip option for takeout orders.

 

[Joe Mama]

It's not like they're going to make a separate ticket template without tip option for takeout orders.

This is exactly what I speak of - I can understand if they do this for their delivery drivers - they wholeheartedly deserve a tip.

But when I come to pick up my order, I have a harder time justifying the tip.

 

[koolinkunming]

Fuck no. If I go in to pick anything up, there is no tip. Shit, even Booster Juice and places like that have options for tip on the card swipe machines or whatever you wanna call them.

If they’re taking care of me through the course of a meal yeah that deserves a tip. Otherwise no, just no.

 

[bushman505]

Nope....if I drive over there and get out of my car, I’m not tipping.

 

[spin]

This is exactly what I speak of - I can understand if they do this for their delivery drivers - they wholeheartedly deserve a tip.

But when I come to pick up my order, I have a harder time justifying the tip.

Its not really justifiable. It's just service industry pressure.


Funny thing, I actually feel worse not leaving a tip , then donating a dollar to the children's hospital, or whatever the fuck they try to get you with when you're just trying to get a couple groceries.

 

[Fuzzybabyducks]

This is exactly what I speak of - I can understand if they do this for their delivery drivers - they wholeheartedly deserve a tip.

But when I come to pick up my order, I have a harder time justifying the tip.

so dont tip if you dont want to. I get what you are asking.. When I first started ordering pick up when I was younger I actually asked the lady at the pick up what people usually tip for pick up. She said " most people give a dollar or two, some dont, its up to you" .. So I have always gave a buck or two. You dont have to. But I always look at as im taking a server away from her tables and tips so I should give something. But really its up to you.

 

[koolinkunming]

I miss China. Times were so much simpler then, when they actually looked all freaked out if you tried to give them a tip.

 

[Adamant]

Tipping in general, of any kind, is bullshit. The fact that it's basically expected nowadays is absurd. I go out to eat, not to pay someone's salary. It's their job to serve me. It's not my responsibility to make sure they can pay their bills. That's the restaurant's problem. If servers want to make more money they should find another job or learn some new skills.

As is, I generally tip in sit-down restaurants (especially if it's a place I know I'll return to) purely because of social conditioning that makes it feel like an obligation. But I never tip over the counter service. Fuck that.

However if the service was genuinely excellent, then I'll throw down a nice tip to show my appreciation. But if I get shit service, or detect any sense of attitude or entitlement, then I usually don't leave shit.

Also, basing the amount you "should" tip on how much you spend is ridiculous. Whether I order a $10 dollar meal or a $75 dollar meal (Pancakes & eggs vs Lobster & steak) it generally doesn't change how much they have to come to the table or make their job all that much harder. So what the fuck.

Ugh, the whole custom is frustrating.

 

[Joe Mama]

Its not really justifiable. It's just service industry pressure.


Funny thing, I actually feel worse not leaving a tip , then donating a dollar to the children's hospital, or whatever the fuck they try to get you with when you're just trying to get a couple groceries.

Well here's another thing that kind of burns my ass - When they ask "Would you like to round up your total to donate to <insert charitable org here>" I ALWAYS tell them no on things like this.

Why? Not because Im a heartless asshole - but because this business will use MY charitable donation to reduce their taxable accountability and/or bolster their "We have donated XXX dollars to <X Organization>"

No you havent... You have at the expense of your patrons.

 

[Fuzzybabyducks]

Tipping in general, of any kind, is bullshit. The fact that it's basically expected nowadays is absurd. I go out to eat, not to pay someone's salary. It's their job to serve me. It's not my responsibility to make sure they can pay their bills. That's the restaurant's problem. If servers want to make more money they should find another job or learn some new skills.

As is, I generally tip in sit-down restaurants (especially if it's a place I know I'll return to) purely because of social conditioning that makes it feel like an obligation. But I never tip over the counter service. Fuck that.

However if the service was genuinely excellent, then I'll throw down a nice tip to show my appreciation. But if I get shit service, or detect any sense of attitude or entitlement, then I usually don't leave shit.

Also, basing the amount you "should" tip on how much you spend is ridiculous. Whether I order a $10 dollar meal or a $75 dollar meal (Pancakes & eggs vs Lobster & steak) it generally doesn't change how much they have to come to the table or make their job all that much harder.

Ugh, the whole custom is frustrating.

well if they paid the servers a good wage you wouldnt have to pay the persons salary. When I was in Belfast a few years ago the girl gave me my beer and I left extra money. She pushed it back to me... They dont tip there. The owners pay them well... The food service in the US lets businesses pay servers less based on that they will make tips. where have you been when a waiter shows entitlement? just curious

 

[Fuzzybabyducks]

Well here's another thing that kind of burns my ass - When they ask "Would you like to round up your total to donate to <insert charitable org here>" I ALWAYS tell them no on things like this.

Why? Not because Im a heartless asshole - but because this business will use MY charitable donation to reduce their taxable accountability and/or bolster their "We have donated XXX dollars to <X Organization>"

No you havent... You have at the expense of your patrons.

I never donate either. Im there to pay for what I bought and tip a little to the people who made/packaged the food.. Not to give to the red cross or whatever. If I want to do that I will on my own time

 

[ObamaPhoneLady]

If a waitress has to take time away from her tables to go to the kitchen, get my order, check it, pack it and bring it to me. That's worth a buck or two imo.

But I'm not poor.

Poor people do as you please.

 

[Joe Mama]

If a waitress has to take time away from her tables to go to the kitchen, get my order, check it, pack it and bring it to me. That's worth a buck or two imo.

But I'm not poor.

Poor people do as you please.

Isnt that the responsibility of the kitchen staff? The waitress is tasked with carrying it up to the register to ring me up.
Dont be mad at me, be mad at her employer for making her 'poor'

 

[Joe Mama]

If a waitress has to take time away from her tables to go to the kitchen, get my order, check it, pack it and bring it to me. That's worth a buck or two imo.

But I'm not poor.

Poor people do as you please.

And what is your definition of 'poor'?

Just because I can, doesn't mean I should.

That doesn't make me poor.

 

[Fuzzybabyducks]

Isnt that the responsibility of the kitchen staff? The waitress is tasked with carrying it up to the register to ring me up.
Dont be mad at me, be mad at her employer for making her 'poor'

the waitress or waiter is also tasked with bringing it to your table also. What is the difference? Thats her or his job and they should be tipped. You pay more when you sit there because they serve you more, but when you order online and pick it up they still have to take time to take the order, pack it up and bring it to you. You want a cook to stop cooking and bring the food to you?

 

[Rhood]

whenever I call in/order online, I pay when I pick it up. I always tip a buck or two because I know that most of them are stuck on curbside/online/pickups and losing out on tips for the day.

whats an extra buck or two

They actually get paid hourly at the same rate as host/hostess pay.