Tim Kennedy can never fight again

[Coolidge]

Hey, Christians have also mass murdered people. There are also good Christians. Jews too! Even nazis! Buddhists!

Okay? I believe those Christians were motivated by Christianity. The Christian Crusades were motivated by the religion (as well as Islamic aggression). I believe those Jews were motivated by Judaism. I believe those Nazis were motivated by Nazism and the ideas Adolf Hitler established. Buddhist violence is not so straight forward. I haven't read Buddhist text, so I have no idea whether their actions are even sanctioned. If a Muslim person decided to kill someone because of road rage, I wouldn't automatically associate it with Islam just because they're Muslim. Do Buddhists attribute their violent behavior to their religion? Islamic terrorists do. If both of these are true, then I would say Buddhism is at fault as well.

 

[DeathByBeer]

....isnt everyone on the planet that doesnt kill their wives and plan to murder anyone that doesnt praise allah already on their kill list?

If so, none of us can go outside again according to you.

 

[Coolidge]

Mic drop on this topic, motherfuckers

These sort of remarks are incredibly corny, especially coming from someone that isn't saying anything remotely accurate or insightful.

 

[Final Say]

I don't identify with the term 'atheist'. That doesn't quite capture the disdain I have for religion. I prefer the term anti-theist. All I was asking is that you do not smear them with the association. The in-fighting thankfully doesn't involve blowing people up. 'Atheism Plus' is another example of social justice infecting an otherwise positive institution.

My man, that's the difference. I didn't know there even were communities. I don't give a sht about any of it. I make up my own damn mind. Humans can coexist with religion, no matter who anti-theist you are.

Okay? I believe those Christians were motivated by Christianity. I believe those Jews were motivated by Judaism. I believe those Nazis were motivated by Nazism and the ideas Adolf Hitler established. Buddhist violence is not so straight forward. I haven't read Buddhist text, so I have no idea whether their actions are even sanctioned. If a Muslim person decided to kill someone because of road rage, I wouldn't automatically associate it with Islam just because they're Muslim. Do Buddhists attribute their violent behavior to their religion? Islamic terrorists do. If both of these are true, then I would say Buddhism is at fault as well.

This is how I view a kind of scenario you just described:

Guy kills 20 people. Afterwards says he's Muslim, says the Quran and Allah told him to do it. I believe him, hate Islam as a result.

or

Guy kills some people and begins to canabalize their face. Says he talked to a voice from the ground that was Satan who told him to kill those people to appease his devil overlord. I believe him, hate Satan and satanists as a result.

Obviously extreme to drive the point home

 

[sethcab]

Dana would throw those goofs out before they could say Allahu

 

[TiredOfUsernames]

My man, that's the difference. I didn't know there even were communities. I don't give a sht about any of it. I make up my own damn mind. Humans can coexist with religion, no matter who anti-theist you are.

In B4 "piece of shit white belt", but...

You're losing.

To everyone...

Lolololololol

 

[Final Say]

In B4 "piece of shit white belt", but...

You're losing.

To everyone...

Lolololololol

Lol, I actually happen to know that the people I'm dealing with are woefully stupid or misguided. More people live life that way than people who do not, so some random person agreeing with their cookie cutter, mass distributed ideas does not surprise nor discredit me.

But it's Sunday and I have nothing productive I wish to accomplish all day so I'm on sherdog

 

[Coolidge]

My man, that's the difference. I didn't know there even were communities. I don't give a sht about any of it. I make up my own damn mind. Humans can coexist with religion, no matter who anti-theist you are.

We can coexist with religion when its able to be criticized and held accountable. Christianity is much less of a problem today than it was hundreds of years ago only because we challenged the beliefs. Islam isn't being challenged, rather, it's being coddled and protected.

Guy kills 20 people. Afterwards says he's Muslim, says the Quran and Allah told him to do it. I believe him, hate Islam as a result.

Guy kills multiple black people in a church. Afterwards it comes out that he's a white supremacist and has anti-black sentiments. I believe it and hate the ideology that he advocates, which is ethnocentrism and white supremacy. 'B-b-but all white supremacists/white nationalists aren't killing people?' Doesn't matter.

Guy kills some people and begins to canabalize their face. Says he talked to a voice from the ground that was Satan who told him to kill those people to appease his devil overlord. I believe him, hate Satan and satanists as a result.

Obviously extreme to drive the point home

You can build the case that all religious people are mentally ill. They prayed to their particular deity, claimed that he/she spoke to them and gave them specific instructions on what to do, how to live, etc., and they acted on these instructions. The only thing that separates the terrorist from just an average religious person that believes they're in a relationship with god is obviously the violence. If you have evidence that the person is mentally ill, then fine. But I don't believe that Abu Bakr Al-Baghdadi, Osama Bin Laden, Muhammad, or even most Islamic 'pawns', are being disingenuous when they say they're doing it because of Islam. I can actually go to the text and see for myself that their actions match up.

 

[Final Say]

I'm also a militant agnostic. So, that doesn't give you any extra credibility points.

I'm listening to their rants because I want to know what their real motivations are and what can be done about it.

You think you're so intelligent that you know them better than themselves. LOL. That's the same mistake that the genius George W Bush made after 9/11 when he knew, he knew, that the terrorists weren't motivated by Islam. They were motivated because they hate our freedoms.

Look where that line of thinking got us lol.

You think that they're just crazy. And that you know better.

You're no different than the retard neo-cons 2003 - 2005. It's the same thought process just from the other side of the political aisle. Full of hubris. It's like you never learned from all those Greek tragedies they made you read in school.



They're not actually Muslims. Just like 90% of Christians aren't Christian, 90% of "Muslims" aren't Muslim. Like a Catholic that's OK with abortion; Catholic in word only, not Catholic in practice.

90% of Muslims, for example, would be appalled at marrying at a 6 year old girl even though their prophet did it and their religion explicitly endorses it.

They're something else that the English language actually doesn't have a word for. Posers, maybe? There's no real good word for it but there should be.

Youre getting into something else entirely. Since being Christian or muslin or any religion is kind of man made I have a hard time telling someone they are or they are not. I don't believe it's like gender, which cannot be argued either way lol

 

[Final Say]

We can coexist with religion when its able to be criticized and held accountable. Christianity is much less of a problem today than it was hundreds of years ago only because we challenged the beliefs. Islam isn't being challenged, rather, it's being coddled and protected.



Guy kills multiple black people in a church. Afterwards it comes out that he's a white supremacist and has anti-black sentiments. I believe it and hate the ideology that he advocates, which is ethnocentrism and white supremacy. 'B-b-but all white supremacists/white nationalists aren't killing people?' Doesn't matter.



You can build the case that all religious people are mentally ill. They prayed to the sky, claimed the deity spoke to them and instructed them to something, and they did it based on his instruction. The only thing that separates the terrorism from just an average religious person that believes they're in a relationship with god is the violence. If you have evidence that the person is mentally ill, then fine. But I don't believe that Abu Bakr Al-Baghdadi, Osama Bin Laden, Muhammad, or even most Islamic 'pawns', are being disingenuous when they say they're doing it because of Islam. I can actually go to the text and see for myself that their actions match up.

Some (not all) of the higher ups, possibly bin Laden, Saddam, and imams and bullshit religious leaders who pedal this violent rhetoric are more politically motivated than religiously motivated. Bet on that

 

[Cptn1NSAN0]

All of the other fighters and fight bros in the audience would rise up in arms to defend the arena.

 

[Reddd]

The most pussified thread I've ever seen. Lol!

Kennedy would die laughing if he saw this.

 

[nick1990]

Like this week, or in general?

The most recent example?

 

[suffersystem]

The most recent example?

Well, there was this one time at band camp.......

 

[Coolidge]

Some (not all) of the higher ups, possibly bin Laden, Saddam, and imams and bullshit religious leaders who pedal this violent rhetoric are more politically motivated than religiously motivated. Bet on that

Is it possible that their political motivations were shaped by their religion? Some people say they're really after land and power. More land and power is a byproduct of Islamic hegemony, which isn't anti Islamic or anti what Muhammad himself did.

Religion scares people with the threat of eternal hellfire for disobedience and the promise of paradise for subservience. That's good enough reason for some people to do heinous things. No other factors required.

 

[TiredOfUsernames]

Lol, I actually happen to know that the people I'm dealing with are woefully stupid or misguided. More people live life that way than people who do not, so some random person agreeing with their cookie cutter, mass distributed ideas does not surprise nor discredit me.

But it's Sunday and I have nothing productive I wish to accomplish all day so I'm on sherdog

Nah, nah, you missed what I said...I didn't say I agreed with everyone else, i said you were losing. You know, objectively. Like you talked about earlier.

You just have shitty rhetorical skills is all. I'm not even saying everything you're saying is wrong, cause I think both sides are partially correct. You're just far shittier at getting your point across.

You know, objectively.

 

[nick1990]

Well, there was this one time at band camp.......

Yer, thought as much...

 

[The ScorpioN]

Kennedy would Rambo his way through the middle east like a hot knife through butter.

US should just unleash him over there and end the conflicts nice and for all.

Make sure to contract a bodybag company.

 

[Coolidge]

The most recent example?

Creatives are generally free to bash Christianity without dying. When Charlie Hebdo prints a 'blasphemous' cartoon about Jesus, they worry about angry letters to the editor. When they print them about Muhammad, they worry about getting gunned down. We all know each religious group doesn't respond in the same fashion, but it makes certain people feel good to pretend.

 

[herra]

Kennedy's not in hiding right now, is he? I just assumed many people know where he lives and all that.

It wouldn't make strategic sense for ISIS to go after Kennedy on his home turf where he has all his guns and ranger buddies to protect him.