Movies THUNDERBOLTS* (Dragonlord's Review, post #1)

If you have seen THUNDERBOLTS*, how would you rate it?


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Box office update:

Thunderbolts* earned $16.5 million on its third weekend, giving the film a US total of $155 million and for a worldwide total of $325 million.
 
movie was shot so dark i couldn’t see shit. legit looked like a snyderverse movie
 
Box office update:

Thunderbolts* passed $350 million worldwide. Despite boasting good reviews and audience scores, the film might not even make it $400 million globally. Silver lining is it'll probably turn a small profit on their secondary releases (VOD, streaming, TV deal, etc.) and the film is a stepping stone to building back goodwill for future MCU films.
 
I just got back from watching the film. The movie was not bad by any stretch, just not great or highly entertaining. I was thinking to myself towards the end, I probably won't watch this again.

6/10.
 
yeah, it was ugly as fuck.


i was being hyperbolic (mostly). still hated the way 99% of scenes were lit.
I understand where you're coming from but from a thematic point of view, I thought the muted colors were in line with the film's subject matter (the Void, depression, loneliness, etc.)
 
I understand where you're coming from but from a thematic point of view, I thought the muted colors were in line with the film's subject matter (the Void, depression, loneliness, etc.)
yeah, i got that but thought it was an elementary choice. the interior darkness motifs would have been served much better (imo) if there was actually some goddamn light & vibrancy to contrast it w/. that inner struggle leaking out & spilling over into the world would’ve had more impact if it was extinguishing the light from a hopeful world. instead, it was an ugly & miserable color palette from start to finish when they could’ve easily told a better visual story imo
 
I think marvel went through a good faith phase where people went even based on the brand even if the reviews were meh. Now there in a period of no trust and people like me aren't going unless they really turn things around. One ok reviewed movie ain't gonna change that.
 
Just back from watching it. While Thunderbolts* doesn't scale the dizzy heights of the MCU's elite product - Winter Soldier, Civil War and Infinity War - it's easily the best thing Marvel have put out since No Way Home.

Which, sadly, is to damn it with faint praise.:(

Pugh is the MVP, but the rest of the cast is never less than solid. Russell, Harbour and Pullman - acting for three since he plays Bob, Sentry and the Void - are all excellent. And it's good to see Bucky and(Junior Varsity)Captain America portrayed as legit bad-asses again, rather than struggling with 100-pound ginger midgets.

Pugh does most of the emotional heavy lifting, with her flashbacks to the Red Room showing just how brutal the training Black Widows had to go through was. Pugh is an excellent actress and makes Yelena's pain and guilt believable. While he's mostly comic relief, Harbour does get to share an intense scene where Alexi reassures Yelena that she is more than the sins of her past.

Louis-Dreyfus is fine as Val. My only complaint is that Norman Osborn should have been leading the Thunderbolts, as he did during Dark Reign. But of course Marvel/Sony screwed the pooch on that one. :rolleyes:

While there is some trademark Marvel Snark, the writers and director should be applauded for not trying to make the characters spout Tony Stark-style zingers every five minutes.

The action scenes are very good. The standout for me being the fight with the Sentry, which proves that weight classes exist for a reason. The deadliest assassins and super-soldiers in the world pose no threat to the god-like Sentry, who solos the entire team without breaking a sweat.

The Void is genuinely creepy, and his signature Hiroshima Shadow move is the most inventive visual effect I've seen in an MCU film for quite some time.

I agree with @Dragonlordxxxxx : 8.5/10 from me.

Edited to add another half-point to the rating. :cool:
 
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Just back from watching it. While Thunderbolts* doesn't scale the dizzy heights of the MCU's elite product - Winter Soldier, Civil War and Infinity War - it's easily the best thing Marvel have put out since No Way Home.

Which, sadly, is to damn it with faint praise.:(

Pugh is the MVP, but the rest of the cast is never less than solid. Russell, Harbour and Pullman - acting for three since he plays Bob, Sentry and the Void - are all excellent. And it's good to see Bucky and(Junior Varsity)Captain America portrayed as legit bad-asses again, rather than struggling with 100-pound ginger midgets.

Pugh does most of the emotional heavy lifting, with her flashbacks to the Red Room showing just how brutal the training Black Widows had to go through was. Pugh is an excellent actress and makes Yelena's pain and guilt believable. While he's mostly comic relief, Harbour does get to share an intense scene where Alexi reassures Yelena that she is more than the sum of her mistakes and sins.

Louis-Dreyfus is fine as Val. My only complaint is that Norman Osborn should have been leading the Thunderbolts, as he did during Dark Reign. But of course Marvel/Sony screwed the pooch on that one. :rolleyes:

While there is some trademark Marvel Snark, the writers and director should be applauded for not trying to make the characters spout Tony Stark-style zingers every five minutes.

The action scenes are very good. The standout for me being the fight with the Sentry, which proves that weight classes exist for a reason. The deadliest assassins and super-soldiers in the world pose no threat to the god-like Sentry, who solos the entire team without breaking a sweat.

The Void is genuinely creepy, and his signature Hiroshima Shadow move is the most inventive visual effect I've seen in an MCU film for quite some time.

I agree with @Dragonlordxxxxx : 8/10 from me.

When Val says that Sentry has to do what she says and he's like "Why should I?"... Such a great little interaction. Pullman was great.
 
Just back from watching it. While Thunderbolts* doesn't scale the dizzy heights of the MCU's elite product - Winter Soldier, Civil War and Infinity War - it's easily the best thing Marvel have put out since No Way Home.
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Pugh is the MVP, but the rest of the cast is never less than solid. Russell, Harbour and Pullman - acting for three since he plays Bob, Sentry and the Void - are all excellent. And it's good to see Bucky and(Junior Varsity)Captain America portrayed as legit bad-asses again, rather than struggling with 100-pound ginger midgets.
Though she is the lead of the film, I liked that they showed that Yelena was no match for Walker who almost killed her several times.

While there is some trademark Marvel Snark, the writers and director should be applauded for not trying to make the characters spout Tony Stark-style zingers every five minutes.
Yeah, the humor was very on point and didn't detract from the seriousness and stakes of the story when it mattered.

The action scenes are very good. The standout for me being the fight with the Sentry, which proves that weight classes exist for a reason. The deadliest assassins and super-soldiers in the world pose no threat to the god-like Sentry, who solos the entire team without breaking a sweat.
I loved that they incorporated Winter Soldier's knife-switching move when he attacked Sentry.

I loved that scene where Bucky was the only one left standing against Sentry and they played that inspiration music giving the audience false hope that he stood a chance against Sentry. And even though we know in our heads that Bucky can't do anything to Sentry, there was a tiny part of us that was rooting for something miraculous to happen.

The Void is genuinely creepy, and his signature Hiroshima Shadow move is the most inventive visual effect I've seen in an MCU film for quite some time.
Yep, that was a nice, creepy touch basing it on the imprints of people from the Hiroshima atomic bomb. For a short time, Thunderbolts* became a horror film.

The creepiness also reminded me of the 2010 horror film Vanishing on 7th Street where people get swallowed in the darkness.

I agree with @Dragonlordxxxxx : 8/10 from me.
I bumped it up to 8.5 on my second viewing.
 
When Val says that Sentry has to do what she says and he's like "Why should I?"... Such a great little interaction. Pullman was great.
I like their wordplay with "god".

Sentry: Why would a god take orders from anyone at all.
Valentina: I think you're throwing around the word god a bit loosely.
Sentry: No no, you said I'm all-powerful, invincible, stronger than a whole team of Avengers combined, which includes at least one god, so...
Valentina: [whispers] Goddamit.
 
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Though she is the lead of the film, I liked that they showed that Yelena was no match for Walker who almost killed her several times.


Yeah, the humor was very on point and didn't detract from the seriousness and stakes of the story when it mattered.


I loved that they incorporated Winter Soldier's knife-switching move when he attacked Sentry.

I loved that scene where Bucky was the only one left standing against Sentry and they played that inspiration music giving the audience false hope that he stood a chance against Sentry. And even though we know in our heads that Bucky can't do anything to Sentry, there was a tiny part of us that was rooting for something miraculous to happen.


Yep, that was a nice, creepy touch basing it on the imprints of people from the Hiroshima atomic bomb. For a short time, Thunderbolts* became a horror film.

The creepiness also reminded me of the 2010 horror film Vanishing on 7th Street where people get swallowed in the darkness.


I bumped it up to 8.5 on my second viewing.

Agreed on every point.

- It made a nice change to see the clear difference between elite but still human operators and actual Super Soldiers. Yelena only being able to stop Walker from stabbing her by hitting him point blank with her taser bracelets was a cool touch. I'd have face-palmed if they showed her stopping the knife with brute strength alone.

- The humour was subtle and a nice counterpoint to the otherwise dark and serious tone. I particularly liked Ghost and Yelena taking the piss out off Walker's handgun, ahem, "barrel length". Overcompensating much, John? ;)

The, "Fuck it, Im'a kill this bitch now!" look on Walker's face when he reaches for his gun after Val calls him Junior Varsity Captain America made me chuckle too.

- I caught that too! It's such a signature move of Bucky's. It also underlined just how out of his league he was. The Winter Soldier could give Captain America the fight of his life. Against the Sentry, he doesn't stand a chance. Which is what saves them in the first fight, as they are so far beneath his level, Sentry doesn't see any reason to kill them.

Fuck it. I'm changing my rating to 8.5
 
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