Social Thoughts on "Heritage" Americans/Canadians?

[helltoupee]

Missing the point in a huge way- but that's OK, you are part of the religion, which you proved by this post.

You have a lot of made-up history.

You are just the other side of the same coin as MAGA. Crazy extremist beliefs. You aren't righteous, you are fighting a war just like the other lunatics.

Hey, quick question since I'm pretty sure you're the guy that told me you worked with prisoners in LA county and know everything there is to know about convicts because they definitely always confide in squares working for the state.

How come one will often see white southsiders, Asians running with blacks, and even whites cliqued up with bloods/crips, yet there is no such thing as a black, Hispanic, or Asian/other in a white gang? Is it because both sides are equally bigoted? Or is there a long and ugly history of superiority based on skin color reverberating in the conscience of some people and not so much in others?

More of your "both sides" slop is all this is. A Ferrari and a Volkswagen both have 4 tires. This commonality does not make them the same exact thing.

There are bigots on both the left and right. True. However it is much more prominent on only one of those sides. Leftists fundamentally believe in equality. Rightists fundamentally believe in heirarchies, which is the foundational basis for supremacist attitudes.

 

[Fox by the Sea]

Leftists fundamentally believe in equality. Rightists fundamentally believe in heirarchies, which is the foundational basis for supremacist attitudes.

Hierarchies are a lot more natural than "equality".
Equality has to be constantly enforced, while hierarchies evolve naturally.
Sure, societies are better when "equality before the law" exists, but even in very democratic societies that's the best it can achieve. outside of that, equality is nowhere to be seen even in the best of places.
And no leftist american government ever thought America was equal to Papua New Guinea or Slovenia.
It's a nice thing to talk about, for PR, but it's a fantasy. Every person with a 80+ IQ understands this.

 

[Nizam al-Mulk]

There are bigots on both the left and right. True. However it is much more prominent on only one of those sides. Leftists fundamentally believe in equality. Rightists fundamentally believe in heirarchies, which is the foundational basis for supremacist attitudes.

Leftists believe in equality until they kick the ladder to become brahmins...
It is impossible to be poor and be on the same page with modern self id leftists American leadership.

What hierarchies do rightists believe just because they do not pretend everyone can be equally skilled at everything?

 

[helltoupee]

Hierarchies are a lot more natural than "equality".
Equality has to be constantly enforced, while hierarchies evolve naturally.
Sure, societies are better when "equality before the law" exists, but even in very democratic societies that's the best it can achieve. outside of that, equality is nowhere to be seen even in the best of places.
And no leftist american government ever thought America was equal to Papua New Guinea or Slovenia.
It's a nice thing to talk about, for PR, but it's a fantasy. Every person with a 80+ IQ understands this.

There is no such thing as a "leftist American government", nor do I subscribe to your fantasies about America being "equal to Slovenia", whatever the hell that means.

I'm talking about how an individual fundamentally treats another individual. I don't look down on and think a Slovenian is beneath me just because he's Slovenian. Just because you think that way doesn't mean everyone else does.

And you're right. We should never strive for something better and just throw up our arms and proclaim no progress is ever achievable.

Right this very second you enjoy and take for granted freedoms that were afforded to you by those who didn't particularly care for an oppressive boot on their throat. Maybe a thank you is in order rather than pussy ass capitulation.

 

[Nizam al-Mulk]

There is no such thing as a "leftist American government", nor do I subscribe to your fantasies about America being "equal to Slovenia", whatever the hell that means.

I'm talking about how an individual fundamentally treats another individual. I don't look down on and think a Slovenian is beneath me just because he's Slovenian. Just because you think that way doesn't mean everyone else does.

And you're right. We should never strive for something better and just throw up our arms and proclaim no progress is ever achievable.

Right this very second you enjoy and take for granted freedoms that were afforded to you by those who didn't particularly care for an oppressive boot on their throat. Maybe a thank you is in order rather than pussy ass capitulation.

What do you think the Biden regime was?

Progress was already achieved. Sometimes it is time to enjoy it.

 

[Fox by the Sea]

There is no such thing as a "leftist American government", nor do I subscribe to your fantasies about America being "equal to Slovenia", whatever the hell that means.

ah yes, pretending not to understand.

I'm talking about how an individual fundamentally treats another individual. I don't look down on and think a Slovenian is beneath me just because he's Slovenian. Just because you think that way doesn't mean everyone else does.

when referencing the slovenia thing, i'm talking about state level, not personal. strange how you didn't understand that.

And you're right. We should never strive for something better and just throw up our arms and proclaim no progress is ever achievable.

any proof that natural hierarchies aren't better?

Right this very second you enjoy and take for granted freedoms that were afforded to you by those who didn't particularly care for an oppressive boot on their throat. Maybe a thank you is in order rather than pussy ass capitulation.

hierarchy doesn't automatically mean oppression. you just don't understand how concepts work.

 

[Deorum]

fundamentally believe in equality.

 

[J_C]

country is the land, nation is mix of blood, language, culture etc

 

[Sinister]

What do you think the Biden regime was?

Progress was already achieved. Sometimes it is time to enjoy it.

Thinking Biden was a leftist is tantamount to a total lack of understanding of the Overton window. Biden is VERY right of FDR, and has always been a career conservative Democrat. Calling him a leftist is a demonstration of being propagandized.

 

[Sinister]

There is no such thing as a "leftist American government", nor do I subscribe to your fantasies about America being "equal to Slovenia", whatever the hell that means.

I'm talking about how an individual fundamentally treats another individual. I don't look down on and think a Slovenian is beneath me just because he's Slovenian. Just because you think that way doesn't mean everyone else does.

And you're right. We should never strive for something better and just throw up our arms and proclaim no progress is ever achievable.

Right this very second you enjoy and take for granted freedoms that were afforded to you by those who didn't particularly care for an oppressive boot on their throat. Maybe a thank you is in order rather than pussy ass capitulation.

When people say "heirarchies evolve in nature" it's pretty hilarious because it just shows indoctrinated thinking. They still think there's a such thing as a food chain, and not a food web. They think animals rule each other rather than have an inter-dependent relationship. Like the pythons and gators in Florida arent harming each other by decimating each other's food supply because two apex predators cant exist in the same small ecosystem.

And as if animals dont attempt to enforce their own survival even if they're "lesser" or have evolved means to survive their predators. Nah they just accept that they're weak and willingly serve themselves up because "heriarchies are natural" lol.

 

[Ares Black]

What do you think the Biden regime was?

Progress was already achieved. Sometimes it is time to enjoy it.

Holy shit you are completely politically illiterate

 

[Ares Black]

Thinking Biden was a leftist is tantamount to a total lack of understanding of the Overton window. Biden is VERY right of FDR, and has always been a career conservative Democrat. Calling him a leftist is a demonstration of being propagandized.

^^^^^^^^ THIS


JFC that was embarrassing

 

[Belaya Smert]

They are all Americans but they need to decide is it team Globo Homo Agenda or team Project 2025.
I don’t think there is a third option.

 

[IanEdwards]

Hierarchies are natural just the same as Czechs and Italians and Irishmen suddenly share 2000 years of heritage and become 'white people' simply by co-existing with one another in the melting pot of America.

 

[Islam Imamate]

Thinking Biden was a leftist is tantamount to a total lack of understanding of the Overton window. Biden is VERY right of FDR, and has always been a career conservative Democrat. Calling him a leftist is a demonstration of being propagandized.

Let's dial back the Biden slander and the FDR hype.

Biden passed unprecedented demand side stimulus that created a strong labor market against the advice of right wing liberal economists and got no credit from the left for this in the long run. He also smoothen the entry of migrants fleeing authoritarian regimes and failed states and again gets no credit from the left on this.

Meanwhile FDR interned over 100k Japanese-Americans and turned away Jewish refugees fleeing Nazi persecution.

 

[Andy Capp]

They are all Americans but they need to decide is it team Globo Homo Agenda or team Project 2025.
I don’t think there is a third option.

I think that sounds like a 'you problem'.

 

[Rod1]

No Democrat options?

Are the Democrat options in the room with us right now?

 

[Rod1]

Let's dial back the Biden slander and the FDR hype.

Biden passed unprecedented demand side stimulus that created a strong labor market against the advice of right wing liberal economists and got no credit from the left for this in the long run. He also smoothen the entry of migrants fleeing authoritarian regimes and failed states and again gets no credit from the left on this.

Meanwhile FDR interned over 100k Japanese-Americans and turned away Jewish refugees fleeing Nazi persecution.

This is why i lost faith on Democrats winning back anything, they just love to slander their own from the high pedestal and thus commit a lot of infighting.

Unless there is a Trump like candidate from Democrats that can actually put order in the party, i don't have much hope for them.

 

[Islam Imamate]

Are the Democrat options in the room with us right now?

I think it's too early to zero in on candidates but Gavin Newsome and Josh Shapiro have been floated. I'm more partial to Tim Walz.

This is why i lost faith on Democrats winning back anything, they just love to slander their own from the high pedestal and thus commit a lot of infighting.

Unless there is a Trump like candidate from Democrats that can actually put order in the party, i don't have much hope for them.

I don't think we need to go full populist but there are certain popular conceptions that are not true and deserve more pushback. The cult of FDR is one of those. He did great things no doubt but he doesn't get anywhere near enough flack for those things I mentioned.

 

[Sinister]

Let's dial back the Biden slander and the FDR hype.

Biden passed unprecedented demand side stimulus that created a strong labor market against the advice of right wing liberal economists and got no credit from the left for this in the long run. He also smoothen the entry of migrants fleeing authoritarian regimes and failed states and again gets no credit from the left on this.

Meanwhile FDR interned over 100k Japanese-Americans and turned away Jewish refugees fleeing Nazi persecution.

No.

I complimented certain Biden initiatives for being good policies, but I wouldnt lay that entirely at his feet same as I wouldn't lay all of the achievements of FDR's administration at his own feet. He appointed actual firebrands who weren't afraid to wield power. Biden did the same, but to a MUCH lesser degree. The honest fact is they're not comparable.

Yeah the internment camps were utterly horrible. That being said so was Biden's unapologetic Zionism and support for an actual genocide. Not to mention the unwillingness to not expand ICE, where we have internment camps right this second, internment camps that are about to expand. Not to mention the process of undermining the primary process, which blew up in their faces. In hindsight Biden's administration did the equivalent of a 50-yard run and then fumbling at the 1 yardline. And now we have fascism.

It's not about being an FDR "cultist"...its about the fact that transformative legislation happened as did MASSIVE expansion of the working class, unionization, economic equity, actual leftist principals. Biden's administration did some things, but nowhere near the same amount. That being said you should realize my in-depth criticism of US racism that has permeated every administration. The ONLY periods that significantly made strides against that where the Reconstruction Era, and the Civil Rights era...both of which ended up with a dead President coincidentally enough. But any administration that didnt address that deserves high criticism for it.