This thread is for the people who thinks Holly will beat Ronda

LOL.

Sarah Kaufman trains with Greg Jackson too and had Greg in her corner when she got dominated by Ronda.

Kaufman has better grappling than Holly too.

Gameplans and training mean JACK FUCKEN SHIT when you're going against an elite athlete grappler like Ronda.

Gameplan and training is everything fool. Why couldnt Jon take Gus down? Why couldnt DC take Jones down? Why couldnt Mcmann take Nunes down? That's all preparation.

Put a fighter with the skillset to beat Ronda in a top level camp and the results will speak for itself.
 
Congrats TS for picking Holly .
as much as i wanted Holly to win i didn't believe it was possible .
so who do you have in the up coming title fights .
RDA v cowboy
Wiedman v Rockhold
Mcgregor v Aldo
 
She looked like shit against Reneau who took up MMA at 32 with no prior combat background.

Yeah, she's going to beat Rousey no problem...

Shit? No. What she did to Reneau is what will give Ronda problems. Maybe not the most exciting thing to watch, but it's a problem. You can also expect a much better version of Holm in Jan.
 
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Jackson was in Kaufman's corner too and we all saw how that turned out.

This will be another 1st round finish.

This thread will make for a glorious bump on Jan. 6th thanks TS.

ts is having an account bet on the conor aldo matchup. he may not be around on the 6th lol.

on topic - i like Holm. i am just unsure of her yet.
 
Holm is awful. Point sparring will never Defeat Ronda.


I wouldn't be surprised if Ronda hurts Holm with her right hand before the finish sequence. I don't see how a girl who struggled with Pennington has anything to offer The Last Empress.

Lol, this was the post that finally had me put you on ignore.

Lol, you dumb fuck.
 
Yeah R3 is such a terrible striker it's not like she keeps notching KOs to her record or anything.

Oh wait....

Are you claiming that Rousey is a formidable striker or anything ? You don't cringe everytime she bullrushes in with terrible technique ?


Do you even watch her fights or you just look at her record ?

Hendo is a terrible striker yet he knocks out people left and right because of his godlike power, his durability and his lack of fear when it comes to brawl with people. Records don't mean that much when we talk about technique.

Rousey threw a good knee against McMann and knocked out Kaufman more with the throw than with her pitty pat punches.

When it comes to hand work, her only relevant KO is against Bethe, which looked, well..... bad.

Still doesn't change the fact that Rousey is very hittable at distance and someone with good footwork and good boxing could pose her some problems.
 
There is literally NO CHANCE Holly wins. Holly's husband probably standing at the bottom of the stairs in their home right now yelling, "You've seen her! You've heard what say! You know how strong she is! YOU CAN'T WIN!!"

You're stupid. I love this!
 
If Holm had a chance, Rousey wouldn't accept the fight. She is all about ducking for the rest of her career to protect her movie career...
 
Dude, you are a moron. Holm, the specialist boxer, barely beat a clinch grappler with far worse striking than Ronda. Plus, Ronda has real power.

Seriously, have you ever seen Holm point spar? Can't call it fighting.

Fuck, you must have undigested crow coming out your asshole.
 
Holm is awful. Point sparring will never Defeat Ronda.


I wouldn't be surprised if Ronda hurts Holm with her right hand before the finish sequence. I don't see how a girl who struggled with Pennington has anything to offer The Last Empress.
 
Oh man. This thread is golden. I will cut you and dmtpanic got crushed. Absolutely glorious.
 
If Ronda decides to stand with her to prove a point, that might happen.

And it's not impossible that Ronda will try to prove a point.
 
If Holm had a chance, Rousey wouldn't accept the fight. She is all about ducking for the rest of her career to protect her movie career...


Ronda isn't scared. It is pretty obvious that Cyborg is the reason the fight hasn't happened. She has ducked/ran, lied and changed her mind a hundred times about nearly everything you can think of over the last four years to the point that nothing she says or does can be taken seriously.

First, the histry of Ronda going to 135 is outlined in this historical sherdog thread:

http://forums.sherdog.com/forums/92583821-post954.html

Then, what happend next was that Ronda beat Budd and Cyborg got busted for steroids. Ronda still agrees to fight Cyborg at 145 (According to Cyborg and her lawyers) for the FW title. However, with Cyborg unable to get her suspension reduced SF gets rid of the 145 class, effectively cancelling the fight (Cyborg's ruins the fight #1).
http://www.mmamania.com/2012/4/9/29...on-upheld-strikeforce-ronda-rousey-female-mma

Cyborg then says she will fight Ronda at a catchweight of 140 (Aug 13, 2012)
http://www.mmamania.com/2012/8/13/3240734/cris-cyborg-ronda-rousey-fight-catchweight

To which Ronda's manager agrees with VADA drug and hair folicle testing (Aug 19)
http://www.mmamania.com/2012/8/20/3256102/ronda-rousey-drug-testing-cyborg-steroids-strikeforce-mma

To which Cyborg backs out almost instantly saying she "will fight at 145, no less" and that she is the champion (actually she wasn't, she was stripped of the belt), and Cyborg ruins the fight for a second time, and ducks Ronda directly for the first time.
http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/spor...ight-rousey-at-145-pounds----no-less/828222/1

Then the UFC buys SF and picks up Ronda's contract and creates the 135 class. Then, the UFC picks up Cyborg's contract and even offers to let her to go Invicta and make money while she trims down until she can make 135. They even offered to PAY Mike Dolce for her to help her lose the weight.

http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2012/12/...es-services-to-get-cyborg-to-135-ronda-rousey
http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2014/12/...dy-fat-percentage-cain-velasquez-ronda-rousey


Cyborg responds by asking to be released from the UFC. (Cyborg ruins the fight #3, Cyborg ducks Ronda #2)

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Then, the UFC gets cozy with Invicta, puts them on fightpass and makes an agreement that Cyborg will get into the UFC if she makes 135. Cyborg signs a contract to make 135 in Dec 2014, but continues to lift weights on a daily basis and doesn't even try to cut the weight, pulling out of the fight and saying she will continue to fight at 145, but that she will still fight Ronda at 145, effectively ducking the fight again (duck #3) by not agreeing to the terms that will get her the bout agreement

This doesn't even take into account all the times Cyborg says she is going to 135, then she will die if she does, then she will be fine, then dead again ... etc.

Here is Cyborg weighing in at 140

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http://www.mmaontap.com/mma/entry/elitexc-unfinished-business-weigh-in-results


she doesn't exactly look like a concentration camp victim, she is still carrying a ton of muscle mass. She just has to drop five pounds of it and the fight is on. Cyborg is just too psychologically attached/addicted to her muscle mass to let it go. She knows she can keep her name in the headlines by barking at Ronda from a distance, while never having to actually take the fight.

Cyborg has no leverage to dictate the terms. Ronda is going nowhere, she is a stationary target, if Cyborg wants the fight, she knows where she has to go to get it.

The day before her Invicta weigh-in against Tweet, Cyborg said she could "make 140 tomorrow"
http://mmajunkie.com/2015/02/cyborg...ufc-champ-ronda-rousey-at-140-pounds-tomorrow

but since she says she currently walks around at 175
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that means she is saying she can fight at a weight 35 pounds below her walkaround weight, but claimed it was physically impossible, and maybe even fatal, if she tried to cut from her walkaround weight of 160 (see video above) down to 135 back when she asked to be released from the UFC, even though that is only 25 pounds. The only conclusion was that she JUST DIDN'T WANT THE FIGHT, since she could have clearly cut the weight.

So lose five pounds of muscle from where you were before and make the fight. The UFC wasn't willing to make a catchweight fight for Carano ("White made it clear that if such a fight would happen, it would have to occur at 135 pounds."), so they sure aren't going to make one for you.

http://www.mmafighting.com/2014/4/9...y-say-gina-carano-deserves-an-immediate-title

Quit running, or does she only want to fight with a huge weight advantage where she can alter the scale to make weight? Complete lack of class and sportsmanship.

http://www.mmaweekly.com/details-of-the-cyborg-vs-akano-controversy-2

but of course Cyborg won't cut the weight, here you can hear in her own words at 4:40 that she has no desire to fight without having a huge size advantage.



Cris is ducking so hard she quacks. Sit down, squirt.
 
No, I don't think she will win. But she could. She has the power.

Most likely she gets finished in the first like everyone else though.

The problem is her power is in her kicks. 5 of her 6 KOs have come from kicks, and Rousey excels and closing the gap (although she gets punched in the face doing so). RR will just rush her to close the gap and clinch, which will negate Holm's kicking power. As for punching power, Holm has no real punch power, she is more of a volume striker. This article explains about her lack of punching power:

http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2015/2/25/8104193/holm-vs-pennington-ufc-184-mma-technique-judo-chop-boxing-nudges-knockouts-kick-gif
 
Holm is awful. Point sparring will never Defeat Ronda.


I wouldn't be surprised if Ronda hurts Holm with her right hand before the finish sequence. I don't see how a girl who struggled with Pennington has anything to offer The Last Empress.

I dont see how a judoka can hurt or even do anything on the feet against a girl who was considered the best female boxer on the planet at one point in time. I know this is MMA, but these girls are very good at what they do.
 
Bulletproof got shot the fuck up. Where you at, kid?

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You should beg Drunken Meat Fist to change your name to The Swiss Cheese Kid with all those holes in you.

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I Will cut you made this post when i was done arguing. I saw it just now.

I dont think he is coming back.
 
I'm with you on this TS. I hope she finds a way to win.

#HOLM4TITLE
#HOLMIESBELIEVE
#GOHOLM
 
Props to you TS. Good prediction and a hilarious thread.

Especially I WILL CUT YOU made a fool out of himself, being all arrogant while playing the safe (but wrong) card. I hope he's man enough to come back here after calling the TS out.
 
Are you claiming that Rousey is a formidable striker or anything ? You don't cringe everytime she bullrushes in with terrible technique ?


Do you even watch her fights or you just look at her record ?

Hendo is a terrible striker yet he knocks out people left and right because of his godlike power, his durability and his lack of fear when it comes to brawl with people. Records don't mean that much when we talk about technique.

Rousey threw a good knee against McMann and knocked out Kaufman more with the throw than with her pitty pat punches.

When it comes to hand work, her only relevant KO is against Bethe, which looked, well..... bad.

Still doesn't change the fact that Rousey is very hittable at distance and someone with good footwork and good boxing could pose her some problems.

This isn't boxing.

Her striking is effective for the sport she applying it too.

She's a good striker.
 
Holm gonna get smoked. She looked like absolute shit against Pennington and Renaeu. At least Miesha proved she can put up a fight
 
There is literally NO CHANCE Holly wins. Holly's husband probably standing at the bottom of the stairs in their home right now yelling, "You've seen her! You've heard what say! You know how strong she is! YOU CAN'T WIN!!"
 
Holm is awful. Point sparring will never Defeat Ronda.


I wouldn't be surprised if Ronda hurts Holm with her right hand before the finish sequence. I don't see how a girl who struggled with Pennington has anything to offer The Last Empress.

She didn't struggled with Pennington. Her performance there was almost as dominant as her last fight. Go watch the fight instead of looking at the result,that split decision was pure BS.
 
Hahaha bulletproof fucking destroyed dmt or whatever and this I will cut you noob so hard

Bahahahahha are you happy with holly performances now???

Yeah where is that guy?? I have a feeling he's gonna be laying low for a while...just like his hero Ronda
 
Hope Holly wins but if she lets Ronda get that clinch it's gonna be a short night.
 
I dont see how a judoka can hurt or even do anything on the feet against a girl who was considered the best female boxer on the planet at one point in time. I know this is MMA, but these girls are very good at what they do.

Maybe you should watch Holm vs. Pennington again. Rocky had no trouble at all landing punches, and Ronda has very effective striking and legit power.

Jorina Baars, 37-0 Muay Thai, 1-3 mma. Boxing =/= mma. MT =/= mma.
 
I dont see how a judoka can hurt or even do anything on the feet against a girl who was considered the best female boxer on the planet at one point in time. I know this is MMA, but these girls are very good at what they do.

I'm pretty sure Cecilia Br
 
Unlike Ronda's past opponents, she knows how to stick and move. And yes, she trains at a great gym. This matchup is way more interesting than Ronda vs Tate 3.

Yet her striking and sticking and moving wasnt all that impressive vs. far lesser previous opponents if you exclude the opponents who were just trying MMA for the first time kind of opponent.

Too soon for Holly.

Would love to see Rousey actually be challenged, this likely won't be.

At least with Meisha you got a never give up warrior with a great hiney.
 
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