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Social They gave my son an insect to eat in school

I eat worms

I never had the balls to eat an earth worm. I just can't do slimy textures. I'm very exploratory but the slimy texture thing is where I part ways lol.

I ate an ant once and it tasted acidic.

I've eaten crickets and locusts and I enjoyed them.
 
You're giving current democrats way to much credit. I'd like to believe Bernie is the real deal, and Warren has some common sense notions for the economy that are slightly old school (good) Democrat, but overall, your party has abandoned the American worker. Trump won via being the only one to directly talk about how bad all the outsourcing was for American workers; that was supposed to be democrats thing. It is really, really important that American companies that sell things to America, make things in America. It's like thee issue.

Step 1 for a healthy economy: At least minimum protections for workers that prevent those with leverage and undo influence from creating a third world work environment, and no real wealth redistribution through WORK. Better than minimum protections work better, as seen by what happened here when unions had some pull, and the middle class was created. Short sighted rich people pretended it was bad for them, but it wasn't.

Step 2: Wealth gets redistributed through jobs and production that benefits everybody.

Step 3: Manufacture and produce enough that you do not spend more than you make as a country. Have a trade surplus.

That is obviously over simplistic. But it's also true. China had so much trade surplus money floating around the last 25 years that their economy grew, as did an upper middle class, while still repressing the hell out of their workers. You that's not how it generally works, or would work here, but when you're making so much money, there is just going to be done that falls into the hands of people. It doesn't "trickle down," but yeah.

I went over this yesterday in the worker rights thread, so I'm not going to get too far into it, but, in short, the "Democrats have abandoned workers" line is right-wing propaganda and it's just not true at all. Every single Democratic president and congress has been better for workers than every single Republican president and congress. The Third Way Democrats were friendlier to big business (which they arguably had to be in order to regain power and continue advancing worker interests after the Republicans walloped them in the 1980s with their shameless anti-worker pro-business policy platform), which is why some 30% of Democrats signed onto NAFTA, which was enough to pass it with a strong Republican majority. However, even Bill Clinton, the face of the neoliberal Dems, was much, much more "for" workers than any Republican before or since, and his administration promulgated labor laws and Board holdings that significantly expanded and reinforced worker rights and protections. The last real explicit move against labor that the Democrats partially joined was the Taft-Hartley Act in 1947, which was broadly supported by the public to curb union power.

That Democrats were pushed slightly to the right, which was (arguably) electorally and financially necessary after Republicans busted unions and depleted their donor base in the 1980s, and now Republicans who are far, far, far right of them and awful for workers are using the "well, you abandoned workers" propaganda (I'm not saying you are doing this, and I'm not saying you are a Republicans....but others here have) is shameless. Democrats have reliably appointed pro-worker/pro-union officials, while Republicans have busted unions and, through right-to-work laws and now the conservative-held Janus decision, pretty much killed them entirely.

Historically, if I were to assign a number to it, with 10 representing most pro-worker and 1 representing most anti-worker, it would play out something like this:

1935
Democrats - 10
Republicans - 2

1947
Democrats - 9
Republicans - 2

1965
Democrats - 8 (JFK era)
Republicans - 4

1980
Democrats - 9 (McGovern era)
Republicans - 2

1994-2008
Democrats - 7 (Clinton era)
Republicans - 2

2008-2016
Democrats - 8
Republicans - 1

2016-present
Democrats - 9
Republicans - 1



But, by the way just as an aside, I think the "wealth redistribution through work" is becoming an increasingly inefficient model. It's deeply ingrained in American ethos and in labor unions, but I think international results are proving pretty reliably that wealth redistribution/minimum living standards guarantees by the government, which can then open up the labor market, keep employers from holding workers hostage because the workers can't afford to look for other work, and allow workers to negotiate true fair wages and create a truly vibrant labor market, is the most optimal solution because it covers workers in non-unionized industries.
 
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You started a thread about “eat bugs” propaganda but I sound dumb?

These are just articles about potential benefits of insect diets. You can literally find articles about the benefits of almost anything else.

Go back to complaining about interracial couples on TV. At least then people will know right away to ignore your insecure rantings.
Sorry you lost. Would you like me to post the other 43 stories just like these I found?

I would probably eat them. I would try it. I didn't even take a stand on the issue in the OP. Of course these headlines repeated over and over are "a push." Sorry I have common sense to see what is in front of my eyes.

The interracial tv commercial couple thread was actually somebody else, but bit i have noticed its being pushed pretty hard.. Because I'm not stupid or dishonest concerning reality.
 
I never had the balls to eat an earth worm. I just can't do slimy textures. I'm very exploratory but the slimy texture thing is where I part ways lol.

I ate an ant once and it tasted acidic.

I've eaten crickets and locusts and I enjoyed them.
Not earth worms, mealworms! I like to take a handful and eat them in front of people.
 
Jesus Christ, is everything an "agenda" these days? Tin Foil hat wearin' mother fuckers!
 
Sorry you lost. Would you like me to post the other 43 stories just like these I found?

I would probably eat them. I would try it. I didn't even take a stand on the issue in the OP. Of course these headlines repeated over and over are "a push." Sorry I have common sense to see what is in front of my eyes.

The interracial tv commercial couple thread was actually somebody else, but bit i have noticed its being pushed pretty hard.. Because I'm not stupid or dishonest concerning reality.
You give yourself way too much credit. You have little common sense and no grip on reality if you think there’s some push for people to eat bugs. You see whatever you don’t like or whatever you have insecurities about and blow them up in your own head as if they’re some big conspiracy. There is none.
 
I went over this yesterday in the worker rights thread, so I'm not going to get too far into it, but, in short, the "Democrats have abandoned workers" line is right-wing propaganda and it's just not true at all. Every single Democratic president and congress has been better for workers than every single Republican president and congress. The Third Way Democrats were friendlier to big business (which they arguably had to be in order to regain power and continue advancing worker interests after the Republicans walloped them in the 1980s with their shameless anti-worker pro-business policy platform), which is why some 30% of Democrats signed onto NAFTA, which was enough to pass it with a strong Republican majority. However, even Bill Clinton, the face of the neoliberal Dems, was much, much more "for" workers than any Republican before or since, and his administration promulgated labor laws and Board holdings that significantly expanded and reinforced worker rights and protections. The last real explicit move against labor that the Democrats partially joined was the Taft-Hartley Act in 1947, which was broadly supported by the public to curb union power.

That Democrats were pushed slightly to the right, which was (arguably) electorally and financially necessary after Republicans busted unions and depleted their donor base in the 1980s, and now Republicans who are far, far, far right of them and awful for workers are using the "well, you abandoned workers" propaganda (I'm not saying you are doing this, and I'm not saying you are a Republicans....but others here have) is shameless. Democrats have reliably appointed pro-worker/pro-union officials, while Republicans have busted unions and, through right-to-work laws and now the conservative-held Janus decision, pretty much killed them entirely.

Historically, if I were to assign a number to it, with 10 representing most pro-worker and 1 representing most anti-worker, it would play out something like this:

1935
Democrats - 10
Republicans - 2

1947
Democrats - 9
Republicans - 2

1965
Democrats - 8 (JFK era)
Republicans - 4

1980
Democrats - 9 (McGovern era)
Republicans - 2

1994-2008
Democrats - 8 (Clinton era)
Republicans - 2

2008-present
Democrats - 9
Republicans - 1



But, by the way just as an aside, I think the "wealth redistribution through work" is becoming an increasingly inefficient model. It's deeply ingrained in American ethos and in labor unions, but I think international results are proving pretty reliably that wealth redistribution/minimum living standards guarantees by the government, which can then open up the labor market, keep employers from holding workers hostage because the workers can't afford to look for other work, and allow workers to negotiate true fair wages and create a truly vibrant labor market, is the most optimal solution because it covers workers in non-unionized industries.
Solid effort. We still buy the things we buy, those things still need to be manufactured, and we need to manufacture more of those things here. It was a very bad idea to ship all that wealth to China. Of course Republican economics has sucked over the last 45 years, and that's why I have nearly always voted D. But that has changed, as has democrats order of importance when it comes to what they really want to push as legislation, whether you care to see it or not. There's a reason unions turned towards trump; he sounded independant, and pro nationalist economic. Having the work available is as important as having the extra rights.
 
You give yourself way too much credit. You have little common sense and no grip on reality if you think there’s some push for people to eat bugs. You see whatever you don’t like or whatever you have insecurities about and blow them up in your own head as if they’re some big conspiracy. There is none.

Eat bugs lol....
 
You give yourself way too much credit. You have little common sense and no grip on reality if you think there’s some push for people to eat bugs. You see whatever you don’t like or whatever you have insecurities about and blow them up in your own head as if they’re some big conspiracy. There is none.

DID YOU READ THE ARTICLES.. THERE'S A TON MORE. YOU DON'T THINK THEY WERE ENCOURAGING THE PRACTICE FOR THE MASSES?

Holy shit lol.

I'm not a conspiracy theorist. At all. My gawd lol
 
Oh no, you geniuses are right. Those were not biased reports encouraging the practice; those were just reports on current events delivered in a way to not encourage, or discourage, the practice. Lol

"Eating bugs will save the world." That's the gist of those headlines. Maybe it's true?? Idk. I didn't take a stand in the OP. Simpletons lol
 
I've seen the "eat bugs" propaganda for a few years now. Was even heavier up until about a year ago; BBC was running stories about how great it is, saw articles on it, so you know it was getting "the push," and it was obvious.

So they gave the kids grasshoppers in school today; 6th grade. I didn't make a deal about it, because my son actually talked about wanting to try it. Well, he did today, and he thought it was terrible.

So anyways the social push for people to start eating insects has reached middle school.

Should I be mad they gave my kid a chile lime grasshopper today? Has everybody noticed this push over the last few years?

For those wondering what "a push" looks like:

https://www.bbc.com/news/av/uk-scotland-21278661/what-does-a-mealworm-taste-like

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/amp/uk-39039395

https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-31589764

http://www.bbc.co.uk/guides/zy7s39q

https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-24912602

https://www.google.com/amp/s/beta.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/2019/01/09/would-you-toss-roasted-insects-into-your-meal-this-health-app-is-betting-yes/?outputType=amp


Im not saying the teacher got direct orders from a shadowy government figure (come on) to make these kids eat bugs.. That's not really how it works. It does work through conditioning through "respected" "news" sources like bbc, or washpo.
My brother talks about this all the time, about how insects are the food of the future. He has a point, in terms of the ratio of resources required to raise them to nutritional value and caloric intake from eating them they are very efficient and environmentally friendly. But usually I tell him to shut up about it.
 
Eating the brains or intestines of various animals would be efficient, but few people want to do it.
 
Whoever tricked first worlders into eating bugs and snails and shit is a boss,just saying.
 
My brother talks about this all the time, about how insects are the food of the future. He has a point, in terms of the ratio of resources required to raise them to nutritional value and caloric intake from eating them they are very efficient and environmentally friendly. But usually I tell him to shut up about it.
He's one of the ones who got the message, and read the "news" on it. I doubt he came up with it all in his own.

Does he eat them around you?
 
Not earth worms, mealworms! I like to take a handful and eat them in front of people.

Fuck that's raw dude lol. To each their own though.

I could never eat a meal worm because I remember the smell of them when we fed them to the class pets in elementary school. They smelled horrible.

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Solid effort. We still buy the things we buy, those things still need to be manufactured, and we need to manufacture more of those things here. It was a very bad idea to ship all that wealth to China. Of course Republican economics has sucked over the last 45 years, and that's why I have nearly always voted D. But that has changed, as has democrats order of importance when it comes to what they really want to push as legislation, whether you care to see it or not. There's a reason unions turned towards trump; he sounded independant, and pro nationalist economic. Having the work available is as important as having the extra rights.

Well, unions didn't turn toward Trump, or at least he didn't get anywhere a plurality of union votes and received no major union endorsements outside of police. He received a larger portion of union votes than the past few Republican nominees, I think, but Clinton still received the vast majority. I do agree that Trump spoke to workers more directly and that Democrats have failed woefully to properly characterize the Republican Party's shamelessly anti-worker and basically just anti-everything-but-rich-donors policy portfolio. But at some point we need to start expecting the American public to actually research before voting and not be pandered to about the most basic descriptions of how the parties/politicians are situated in terms of policy.

As far as domestic manufacturing goes....idk. I used to have more or less the same position - largely because worker democracy depends on both production and consumption largely taking place in the same polity - but I'm less sure than I used to be. I certainly don't agree with the characterization that wealth is being shipped to China.
 
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