Opinion They control the media, but who is they?

[ermac88]

It's all about clicks, unfortunately. A huge part of the population only reads headlines and they know that. I don't even need to get into which side has more egregious examples of false/misleading headlines either. It's just one of the reasons most Americans do not trust the MSM. Therefore, they flock to independent journalists and bloggers/vloggers/podcasters online more and more.

I think you're right on this.

I think even "reputable" news sources now bank on clicks, which Im not convinced is the healthiest form of journalism or dissemination of news.

If we can even call if journalism when it relies on clicks

 

[SKYNET]

But he didn't try to manufacture consent.

Yes he did

What he did is share his opinion honestly with people as an individual which he has every right to do.

He had every right indeed, however, his opinion was such that if you didn't consent to government mandate, then you should be a second class citizen. This opinion not only served his own selfish interests but also directly or indirectly benefitted a mega corporation during one of the most lucrative periods in the history of that industry.

You could disagree with him

I have every right to disagree with him

but he wasn't manufacturing consent

He may not have intended to but he actually did

and it doesn't take one bit of the power and impact of his book away either.

Nothing I could ever possibly say here could ever do as much damage as he has done to the power and impact of his book.

 

[Deleted member 577981]

Yes he did

He had every right indeed, however, his opinion was such that if you didn't consent to government mandate, then you should be a second class citizen. This opinion not only served his own selfish interests but also directly or indirectly benefitted a mega corporation during one of the most lucrative periods in the history of that industry.

I have every right to disagree with him

He may not have intended to but he actually did

Nothing I could ever possibly say here could ever do as much damage as he has done to the power and impact of his book.

So if you've read manufacturing consent, you understand it's a systemic problem based on financial/social incentives and biases.

How specifically would you say Noam Chomsky was trying to manufacture consent by sharing his opinion?

Or did you just use the wrong language? And you would just like to say he was trying to influence people as a single individual without systemic power?

 

[Possum Jenkins]

So if you've read manufacturing consent, you understand it's a systemic problem based on financial/social incentives.

How specifically would you say Noam Chomsky was trying to manufacture consent by sharing his opinion?

Uber-skeptic, right-wing morons like him believe that anything that even indirectly benefits big business is suspect.

You could say the most sensible, common sense thing like "We should eradicate world hunger!" and they'll point out that the food companies that would provide the food to feed these poor people are big and therefore agribusiness. Oh, and the trucks that'll deliver the food also run on gasoline or electricity and therefore you're a "PoS fRaUd!" because you want to benefit Big Agribusiness and Big Oil and Big Electricity, and etc.

Since we live in the 21st century, everyone and everything is compromised. So absolutely any attempt at reform is immediately suspect.

The result: you do nothing and the status quo continues.

Fuck idiots like this.

 

[SKYNET]

Uber-skeptic, right-wing morons like him believe that anything that even indirectly benefits big business is suspect.

You could say the most sensible, common sense thing like "We should eradicate world hunger!" and they'll point out that the food companies that would provide the food to feed these poor people are big and therefore agribusiness. Oh, and the trucks that'll deliver the food also run on gasoline or electricity and therefore you're a "PoS fRaUd!" because you want to benefit Big Agribusiness and Big Oil and Big Electricity, and etc.

Since we live in the 21st century, everyone and everything is compromised. So absolutely any attempt at reform is immediately suspect.

The result: you do nothing and the status quo continues.

Fuck idiots like this

limp wristed cowardly leftists commie pinkos like you make virtuous apologies for exorbitant greed and wealth while conveniently attacking workers who don't side with you politically. Cubans in South Florida have a term to describe scum like you. Gusanos.

Next time consider growing a pair and tagging me

 

[Possum Jenkins]

limp wristed cowardly leftists commie pinkos like you make virtuous apologies for exorbitant greed and wealth while conveniently attacking workers who don't side with you politically. Cubans in South Florida have a term to describe scum like you. Gusanos.

Next time consider growing a pair and tagging me

LOL. You're in an active conversation with the poster I quoted, of course I knew you were gonna read my post.

No one in the history of the WR has ever been afraid of engaging a genius that drops gems like "leftists like you make virtuous apologies for exorbitant greed and wealth."

And "gusano" is actually term given by Cuban revolutionaries to right-wingers and collaborators.

You can't get shit right. This is why I directed myself at terrapin and not you.

 

[SKYNET]

LOL. You're in an active conversation with the poster I quoted, of course I knew you were gonna read my post.

lol so you're just a passive aggressive coward?

No one in the history of the WR has ever been afraid of engaging a genius that drops gems like "leftists like you make virtuous apologies for exorbitant greed and wealth."

Gotta admit I love blazing trails

And "gusano" is actually term given by Cuban revolutionaries to right-wingers and collaborators.

I know the legend and I find it the height of projection and hypocrisy. Cuban Americans who fled Castro view useful idiots to a communist dictator as the real gusanos. A commies word is as good as mud down here and we have appropriately flipped the script on the filthy pigs. Funny how the disgusting pig revolutionaries that supported Fidel Castro had the nerve and conceit to use a term like "gusanos" against those who did not want to be exploited by slimy worms such as yourself.

You can't get shit right. This is why I directed myself at terrapin and not you.

Yeah more like I got you pegged. Your passive aggressive bs just shows you are a pathetic coward.

Next time grow a pair.

 

[Scott Stapp]

This chart might help. It's a web of darkness.

A lot of "Senior Fellows" and "experts" in fields that don't otherwise exist.