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There would be less simps if there was no social media

So much to unpack here

1) white belts shouldn't be allowed to make thread but this dumbass shit comes up often enough that we might as well sticky it.

2) simping preceeds the digital age, it's older than the wheel.

3) OP your brain is full of propaganda pushed by incel influencers who want you to stay home being dumb and angry instead of getting out into the world, living life, and cultivating meaningful relationships.
Wait... there are incel influencers? really?
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I literally posted evidence of more men being locked out of dating on the second page. But sure keep pretending it doesnt exist and then wonder in 20-30 years why guys are offing themselves and more women are going into sex work.

Second page?! Ain't nobody got time for that.
 
Wait... there are incel influencers? really?
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The influencers may or may not be incels themselves, but they push this shit on their podcasts trying to make lonely young men into incels by getting them to stay isolated and angry instead of going to the gym, making friends, making small talk with people at the grocery store, and cultivating a social life.

If you stay angry and alone, you stay on the podcast grind, then you buy into their supplements or their memecoin or whatever the profit engine is.

There are lonely people out there, but noone is going to build friendships or romantic relationships for you. You gotta get out in the world and talk to people.

Yet OP is resigned to this idea that his romantic prospects are fucked and he's not willing to do any work to improve his life because it's the fault of society / social media / feminism he didn't get an arranged marriage through his local church when he turned 17.
 
I literally posted evidence of more men being locked out of dating on the second page. But sure keep pretending it doesnt exist and then wonder in 20-30 years why guys are offing themselves and more women are going into sex work.

I looked at the research you cited and most of the stuff you say in the OP, cannot be extrapolated based on that research.

For example "In addition, rich and good looking men can now chat up 100s of women a week, in the safety of their home, without ever having to go out"

Why would they though? They are rich, they could go to a restaurant or bar and start chatting up a beautiful woman there and be fucking her by the end of the night.
 
There's the propaganda showing.

Yes, fewer women in America are married between the ages of 20 and 24 between now and 1950.

They also had no rights in 1950, and couldn't own a home, get a line of credit, or make their own medical decisions until the 1970s.

If you can't talk to women and go out on dates when they have basic property rights and don't literally need you to function in society, the problem is you not social media.

Get out of the basement and or dorm room, go to parties, join clubs, make friends, do group activities, treat women like human beings and actually talk to them. Dating will be much easier.
The first thing I tell every guy like that, go to your local yoga studio. It's 95% women, get practice interacting with them... they're really not that scary; Additionally, flexibility is important, especially as you age.

...also, hot chicks in yoga pants. I really fail to see the downside here?
 
I looked at the research you cited and most of the stuff you say in the OP, cannot be extrapolated based on that research.

For example "In addition, rich and good looking men can now chat up 100s of women a week, in the safety of their home, without ever having to go out"

Why would they though? They are rich, they could go to a restaurant or bar and start chatting up a beautiful woman there and be fucking her by the end of the night.

1. Actually you can infer the formation of harems when you realize from pew research the large gap between single men and women.

2. You ask why would they though? Well becsuse of ease of convenience. Messaging a girl over IG and having her come over to sleep with you saves you far more time than having to dress up, go to a bar restuarant or club, pay a cover charge, approach the girl, likely buy her drinks and all the other time wasting bs before she agrees to sleep with you.

And we know rich guys were doing this because dan blizerian himself even admitted he was fishing for women on ig and would convince them to fly to his place and sleep with him. We also have the whole "tag your sponsor" incident from 2015 where ig models were outed accepting money from rich, dubai men in exchange for sex.

 
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Not sure who is that. I decided to make this thread in response to user claiming OF is becoming a common and accepted carier in society.

This is just explaining the root cause of how we got to this point as a society.

Social media validation + rich and/or good looking men willing to have casual relationship with women+ feminism ----> increase female standards ----> more men excluded from dating during a women prime as she gambles her youth to try and get commitment from these men.

more men excluded from dating + lack of validation ----> more simps are born

More simps are born ---> more money funnel to women who do OF/Twitch/ cam girls that pretend to like these men ----> more stories of women making bank via these career paths ---> encourages more women to do it ---> less stigmatization by society as it becomes more common

ShaggyDoyle... ShaggyDoyle
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SaggyD... is that you?

New account already?
You know it’s him because he said “idk who that is” when the correct response would be to think they’re making fun of your username.
 
1. Actually you can infer the formation of harems when you realize from pew research the large gap between single men and women.

2. You ask why would they though? Well becsuse of ease of convenience. Messaging a girl over IG and having her come over to sleep with you saves you far more time than having to dress up, go to a bar restuarant or club, pay a cover charge, approach the girl, likely buy her drinks and all the other time wasting bs before she agrees to sleep with you.

And we know rich guys were doing this because dan blizerian himself even admitted he was fishing for women on ig and would convince them to fly to his place and sleep with him. We also have the whole "tag your sponsor" incident from 2015 where ig models were outed accepting money from rich, dubai men in exchange for sex.



1. You can, and you would be stupid for doing that.

2. Yes, it's very convenient, except you have no idea who will show up at your doorstep, because its the internet. When you go to the bar, you actually meet the person, so there aren't too many surprises later on. Your idea of what is a waste of time is not necessarily someone else's. For the rich guy paying a cover charge, buying drinks and chatting a beautiful woman up it's not a waste of time, it's a proper use of time in a mating ritual. When he is dicking her down at the end of the night, he will not be thinking about how much time he "wasted" going through that process.

"Some instaho, did an instaho thing"
A small group of women doing this is not indicative of what happens at the population level. That's why I say you are extrapolating too much from an extremely limited data set.
 
The influencers may or may not be incels themselves, but they push this shit on their podcasts trying to make lonely young men into incels by getting them to stay isolated and angry instead of going to the gym, making friends, making small talk with people at the grocery store, and cultivating a social life.

If you stay angry and alone, you stay on the podcast grind, then you buy into their supplements or their memecoin or whatever the profit engine is.

There are lonely people out there, but noone is going to build friendships or romantic relationships for you. You gotta get out in the world and talk to people.

Yet OP is resigned to this idea that his romantic prospects are fucked and he's not willing to do any work to improve his life because it's the fault of society / social media / feminism he didn't get an arranged marriage through his local church when he turned 17.
My initial shock was the concept of an incel influencer... I mean, why the fuck would anyone want to be one in the first place.

The main issue discussing these things is that shock, horror... he's not entirely wrong. If you look at the demographic decline, if you look at the evidence coming out of government and other studies into this phenomena and the million and one data points, we see around us... there's definitely some truth to what he states. People just don't like the way he phrases it.

The thing that I find, far more fascinating, is actually your response to what he wrote. Look at your last two paragraphs in particular, he didn't actually say any of that stuff, he didn't talk about his personal circumstances at all, you just projected all of that onto him because you disagreed with what he said. Have you put any thought into why that was your reaction?
 
1. Actually you can infer the formation of harems when you realize from pew research the large gap between single men and women.
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...or maybe there was just a whole load of scissoring action going on?
 
My initial shock was the concept of an incel influencer... I mean, why the fuck would anyone want to be one in the first place.

The main issue discussing these things is that shock, horror... he's not entirely wrong. If you look at the demographic decline, if you look at the evidence coming out of government and other studies into this phenomena and the million and one data points, we see around us... there's definitely some truth to what he states. People just don't like the way he phrases it.

The thing that I find, far more fascinating, is actually your response to what he wrote. Look at your last two paragraphs in particular, he didn't actually say any of that stuff, he didn't talk about his personal circumstances at all, you just projected all of that onto him because you disagreed with what he said. Have you put any thought into why that was your reaction?

Because we've had this same discussion in mayberry over and over for years and the guys don't take the good advice they're given, they just double down on it being the world's fault.
 
SaggyD... is that you?

New account already?
That account looks shady...it says all the thing that are said on the Red pill Reddit communities...sounds some nasty russian bot exposing the Western society downfall.
 
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