There really is no solid evidence of the supernatural, is there ?

[Deleted member 429137]

Bigfoot is thought to be by many researchers a remnant population of Gigantapithicus. IF that is the case it will resemble a giant man much more than a giant gorilla. It would be much more intelligent also allowing it to have an agenda of human avoidance.

My quibble is that no animal has a successful agenda of human avoidance, let alone in the third most populous, most-developed country in the world.

 

[franklinstower]

My quibble is that no animal has a successful agenda of human avoidance, let alone in the third most populous, most-developed country in the world.

If there were an animal that was successful we wouldn't know. That's what would make it successful.

I really am undecided but I am influenced by credible witnesses. I've thought about it from both sides and am an agnostic -- a hopeful one.

I get a true joy thinking about it from the perspective that it is real and has avoided human detection although IF it exists then most of the sightings would be authentic and it would have been sighted and interacted with many times over.

Did you read my WAY too long post above about the arguments for its existence that I found most compelling?

For me the topic is fun.

 

[Deleted member 110072]

My quibble is that no animal has a successful agenda of human avoidance, let alone in the third most populous, most-developed country in the world.

Honestly even the Yeti is I think highly questionable, the Himlaya's aren't the wilderness many seem to think, there actually pretty heavily populated in the high valleys due to favourable growing conditions for crops like potatoes.

I don't think its a coindicense that in both situations you have environments were large bear populations are present relatively close to large human populations.

 

[Deleted member 429137]

If there were an animal that was successful we wouldn't know. That's what would make it successful.

It's more than just walking carefully at night: they would have to have disposal rituals to avoid leaving remains for people to find, which would imply an incredible level of intelligence and a large enough community to dispose of each other. They would also have rituals for feces diposal.

I really am undecided but I am influenced by credible witnesses. I've thought about it from both sides and am an agnostic -- a hopeful one.

I get a true joy thinking about it from the perspective that it is real and has avoided human detection although IF it exists then most of the sightings would be authentic and it would have been sighted and interacted with many times over.

Did you read my WAY too long lost above about the arguments for its existence that I found most compelling?

I read your entire post and enjoyed it. I only wanted to make one nitpick because I felt you were underestimating the complexity of hiding themselves from discovery.

For me the topic is fun.

Me, as well. I love this stuff.

 

[Deleted member 429137]

Honestly even the Yeti is I think highly questionable, the Himlaya's aren't the wilderness many seem to think, there actually pretty heavily populated in the high valleys due to favourable growing conditions for crops like potatoes.

I don't think its a coindicense that in both situations you have environments were large bear populations are present relatively close to large human populations.

Bears are amazing creatures. They walk around on their hind legs all the time. You'll find videos of bears on youtube driving away in somebody's car, breaking into somebody's house to play the piano, waving "goodbye" with their paw as a human waves at them. Bears are one of the few animals that are tool users. They're immensely curious and dextrous creatures who regularly exhibit human-like qualities that are absolutely riveting to us.

 

[franklinstower]

That's why I asked how much time people spend in the woods. I spend a lot. I have friends who are hunters and they spend a lot. No one I know has ever come across a bear skeleton in the woods or a mountain lion. Bears are thought to be much more populous than bigfoots by researchers. If it is a Gigantapithicus or some similar species it would have the intelligence needed.

Huge IF's but if man......

 

[franklinstower]

Honestly even the Yeti is I think highly questionable, the Himlaya's aren't the wilderness many seem to think, there actually pretty heavily populated in the high valleys due to favourable growing conditions for crops like potatoes.

I don't think its a coindicense that in both situations you have environments were large bear populations are present relatively close to large human populations.

The Yeti is all but given up on in the bigfoot community. I THINK. The reason is that a species of white bear was discovered recently to live there and it is now thought by many to be responsible for the sightings. I am not saying everyone agrees with that.

 

[franklinstower]

Bears are amazing creatures. They walk around on their hind legs all the time. You'll find videos of bears on youtube driving away in somebody's car, breaking into somebody's house to play the piano, waving "goodbye" with their paw as a human waves at them. Bears are one of the few animals that are tool users. They're immensely curious and dextrous creatures who regularly exhibit human-like qualities that are absolutely riveting to us.

Even though I do give credit to accounts of sightings bears standing on hind legs would have to account for some of them....

 

[franklinstower]

I also give a lot of credence to indigenous accounts here in North America. Accounts from indigenous peoples have been given a very unfair wrap and the misunderstanding first came from anthropologists who failed to make an important distinction while listening to accounts of indigenous peoples from all over the world.

Primitive populations lived in two worlds the physical world and the "other world" the world of imagination intuition and mythology- they did not confuse the two. But this distinction was not explained by indigenous peoples when speaking to anthropologists. So when a tribes person talked about going to the river to fish and get some water and then falling into a hole where he spoke with a fire spirit the anthropologist was naturally scandalized and thought that he could not trust the account of the tribes person. But for the tribes person it was a given that he was talking about his experience in the physical world and in the "other world" the world of mythical imagination.

Native american accounts of bigfoot do not fall into the categories of "the other world and spirit beings" Most of them say that bigfoot is a real creature-- a kind of man who lives in the woods. There are even many stories speaking of how when the men would leave the tribe sometimes they would come into the village and steal women from them...

 

[My name is]

My granda used to tell me stories. You wouldn't call her a lier would ya

 

[franklinstower]

If anyone is interested in the bigfoot subject please check out these two videos.

I trust this guy, he is an expert woodsman and although it doesn't prove anything, I do not believe he is lying.

 

[DataBreach]

This was the funniest story about a drunk lady farting in church I've ever heard.

In fact, when the lady cried out and was laid out on the floor someone grabbed a prayer cloth and placed it over her body. So that lady knew exactly what happened.

Try-hard dork.

 

[CargoKing]

Try-hard dork.

Hey now I was complimenting your post. No need to act like I've previously shoved my foot so far up your ass it kicked your brain.

 

[DoomPatrol]

I left church early but the woman testified she was a witch and she was born into a family of witches. I can't say that is true because I left but I was told this.

It was a praying and fasting church. It was very common to have people walk in off the street and get delivered. So I assume most of the people there (maybe 75) would say she was demon possessed. In fact, when the lady cried out and was laid out on the floor someone grabbed a prayer cloth and placed it over her body. So that lady knew exactly what happened. Everyone in that room who knew the Bible knew what happened.

Had you been in the room you wouldn't have surveyed everyone. You would have ran for the lobby because the smell of sulfur in the air was putrid.

I think the most likely explanation would be someone wanted to prank a bunch of gullible idiots.

I find that a lot more likely than the idea that real exorcisms are occurring in churches and there's zero proof of it.

 

[DataBreach]

Hey now I was complimenting your post. No need to act like I've previously shoved my foot so far up your ass it kicked your brain.

Your quote ruse just stops rational conversation. You fall back on it because you have no imagination and you probably learned that the hard way, lol.

I caught your spelling error of we'll rather than well btw ...but that dragon mod stopped me from posting it.

Making the same errors you were criticizing me of just labels you as a hypocrite.

Using your ruse disqualifies you from winning anything outright.

 

[DataBreach]

I think the most likely explanation would be someone wanted to prank a bunch of gullible idiots.

I find that a lot more likely than the idea that real exorcisms are occurring in churches and there's zero proof of it.

I don't care what you think. You're pound for pound possibly the worse poster on here.

 

[LEGS MAHONEY]

the way i see it is we only have a few short decades before we are gonna find out if theres anything. to the " supernatural"

why be a cunt about it. just be on the fence about the matter until then

 

[LOST CAUSE]

 

[DataBreach]

the way i see it is we only have a few short decades before we are gonna find out if theres anything. to the " supernatural"

why be a cunt about it. just be on the fence about the matter until then

What makes you say that? The supernatural appearing over the next 20 years or so.

I only ask because I believe that too.

 

[SugarKrok]

Magic is just advanced science that is not yet understand. There is no supernatural. It's all nonsense like prayer and how people proclaim it effective. Same type of sillyness. In the end, the truth is that science is the real magic.