Henderson gets dropped all the time...he might have used to be Type-A but even long ago he still got dropped by Newton and Wand and several others.
I don't think he was dropped by Newton, he never fell down he just stumbled. Might me wrong though.
Henderson gets dropped all the time...he might have used to be Type-A but even long ago he still got dropped by Newton and Wand and several others.
Crappy threads have two different kinds of stupidity in sherdog forums. One stupid thread uses upper case letters for entire words. The other writes lame streams of consciousness in multicolored font. This thread here is therefore stupid X 2!
Shogun and Hendo are definitely type A
+1 the colours make it unreadable on mobile.
I've watched every UFC since since UFC 59: Reality Check, and it finally became clear to me tonight that there are two different types of "great chins" ("epic chins" to the youth of the internet) in elite MMA.
Type-B: Someone who can get hit multiple times with full force strikes and not loose consciousness--but will drop to the mat and/or look "rocked."
...Type-A: Someone who can take full force strikes multiple times, not lose consciousness, AND act like nothing ever happened.
When you rank fighters to see who has the best chin, it's not fair--One fighter may take an ungodly amount of punishment and stay awake, but that doesn't mean he has a better chin than someone who took a few serious bombs and didn't break stride. Guys that show the Type-A traits often go unlisted on best chin lists because they don't look like they are taking a lot of damage, but in reality, they are taking serious damage but they just handle it like beasts.
So, who are we talking about here?
Here are some examples of Type-B guys: Fabio Maldonado, Junior Dos Santos, and Frankie Edgar
...Here are some examples of Type-A type guys: Anderson Silva, Alexander Gustafsson, and Jose Aldo
Here are some guys for which a distinction is too close to call for me: Shogun Rua, Dan Henderson, Roy Nelson, Nate Diaz, and BJ Penn
Please post your thoughts, as well as your choices for the best Type-A and/or Type-B fighters, and please separate them as such.
Also, if you were wondering, Jonathan Goulet is a Type-Y guy.
Guys that show the Type-A traits often go unlisted on best chin lists because they don't look like they are taking a lot of damage, but in reality, they are taking serious damage but they just handle it like beasts.
I hate to say this, and I mean i REALLY hate to say this, but watching the gifs of Jones-Machida I saw that Jones took a left that would have sunk everyone in the LHW division apart from Shogun.
Which makes me wonder, did Rashad actually connect and it just didn't do shit?
I've been saying the same thing about Jones for a while now.
In the above gif, Jones is off balance and standing on one foot as he throws a low kick at Machida. Machida launches a blistering counter-left straight and Jones eats it, shuffles his left foot back under his weight, recovers his balance, and smoothly backpedals out of danger, all while Machida is throwing a flurry of punches at him. I seriously doubt that there is another LHW who wouldn't have been KO'd or at least dropped in a similar situation.
Jones has a beastly chin.
TS, I understand what you mean, but I think the examples of Anderson and Aldo for "Type A chin" are not the best choices, since neither really gets hit a lot with big shots in their fights. I understand that Bonnar hit Anderson with some shots that look like they hurt, but that was one of the few times than anyone landed anything cleanly on Anderson.
One of the main points of the OP was to point out that just because someone hasn't taken A LOT of big shots--doesn't mean that they didn't take the few big shots they did take better than anyone else could have.TS, I understand what you mean, but I think the examples of Anderson and Aldo for "Type A chin" are not the best choices, since neither really gets hit a lot with big shots in their fights.
Ever heard of Fujita?I've watched every UFC since since UFC 59: Reality Check, and it finally became clear to me tonight that there are two different types of "great chins" ("epic chins" to the youth of the internet) in elite MMA.
Type-B: Someone who can get hit multiple times with full force strikes and not loose consciousness--but will drop to the mat and/or look "rocked."
...Type-A: Someone who can take full force strikes multiple times, not lose consciousness, AND act like nothing ever happened.
When you rank fighters to see who has the best chin, it's not fair--One fighter may take an ungodly amount of punishment and stay awake, but that doesn't mean he has a better chin than someone who took a few serious bombs and didn't break stride. Guys that show the Type-A traits often go unlisted on best chin lists because they don't look like they are taking a lot of damage, but in reality, they are taking serious damage but they just handle it like beasts.
So, who are we talking about here?
Here are some examples of Type-B guys: Fabio Maldonado, Junior Dos Santos, and Frankie Edgar
...Here are some examples of Type-A type guys: Anderson Silva, Alexander Gustafsson, and Jose Aldo
Here are some guys for which a distinction is too close to call for me: Shogun Rua, Dan Henderson, Roy Nelson, Nate Diaz, and BJ Penn
Please post your thoughts, as well as your choices for the best Type-A and/or Type-B fighters, and please separate them as such.
Also, if you were wondering, Jonathan Goulet is a Type-Y guy.
Chin, heart and recovery are all three very different things. People should realize this.
Ever heard of Fujita?