The WORLD WIDE WEIRD Thread

[BearGrounds]

Indeed.
@MusterX ...im not sure yet , but it seems that its only popular belief ,probably putted forward by Erich Von Daniken and Ancient Aliens series, that the Puma Punku stones are made of granite. Which takes away some of the sites splendor but still doesnt tarnish many of the construction feats required for the construction of that site.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pumapunku

I still believe that the ancient civilization(s) that were responsible for the construction of megalithic sites all around the World knew about sound , resonance and frequency ... possibly even the 4 fundamental forces. I dont know , maybe im just reaching ...
The guy that built the coral castle sure knew something that apparently nobody else knows. Allthough the stones arent made of granite, he still had to put them into place all by himselfe.
I just believe it has to do with frequency.

I believe Leedskalnin knew exactly how the ancients moved those stones, and wasn't simply embellishing or claiming so in order to garner interest and create a mysterious aura. I actually made a thread on him in this very forum a while ago. Here's a site dedicated to him where you can read his writing for free.

http://leedskalnin.com/

Dude was an enigma. I plan to go check out his creation sometime.

 

[MusterX]

Simply giving it serious consideration and taking the time to read up on it extensively. There's some excellent books/documentaries on the subject. You can also spend hours reading countless eyewitness accounts and watching interviews online.

Some of the stuff I've come across is quite compelling.

Also, one more, have you seen Bill Munn's analysis? Bill Munn actually worked in Hollywood making costumes and he is one of the only people to ever get access to the original film.

 

[FadeLess]

I believe Leedskalnin knew exactly how the ancients moved those stones, and wasn't simply embellishing or claiming so in order to garner interest and create a mysterious aura. I actually made a thread on him in this very forum a while ago. Here's a site dedicated to him where you can read his writing for free.

http://leedskalnin.com/

Dude was an enigma. I plan to go check out his creation sometime.

Thanks man , i really apreciate this.
Ill be looking into this ...
Cheers

 

[BearGrounds]

Have you seen any of M.K. Davis' work with the Patterson/Gimlin film? I know many diehardly believe its a hoax but I honestly think that is a real creature, especially taking into account that so called "suit" from 40+ years ago would be better than anything Hollywood has today. You can check out more of his videos on YouTube but here are just a couple of the ones he's done.

Yup, I've seen those. This is a great stabilized version of the video. One of the best I've found on YT:



John Willison Green, who recently passed away this past may, believed it authentic along with many others. But I try to avoid arguing about if for the same reasons Bindernagel does - it tends to bog down any conversation about the topic of Sasquatch. There's a lot more to consider when attempting to get the entire picture, and if you ever bring it up to a doubter you just get into an argument about whether or not its a hoax, and nothing else gets discussed.

That aside, one that I find pretty convincing is the Freeman video. If it's a hoax it's a damn good one.

Spoiler

And John Bindernagel's book is an excellent read. Dude is a legit wildlife biologist who considers the animal to be absolutely real.

 

[BearGrounds]

Also, one more, have you seen Bill Munn's analysis? Bill Munn actually worked in Hollywood making costumes and he is one of the only people to ever get access to the original film.

Think I've seen em all tbh. I've YTed the shit out of the topic lol.

In the zoomed/stabilized version I linked you can really get a great look at the walk. It's actually incredibly impressive if it's a hoax based on the locomotion itself, never mind the suit (if it is one).

 

[MusterX]

Yup, I've seen those. This is a great stabilized version of the video. One of the best I've found on YT:



John Willison Green, who recently passed away this past may, believed it authentic along with many others. But I try to avoid arguing about if for the same reasons Bindernagel does - it tends to bog down any conversation about the topic of Sasquatch. There's a lot more to consider when attempting to get the entire picture, and if you ever bring it up to a doubter you just get into an argument about whether or not its a hoax, and nothing else gets discussed.

That aside, one that I find pretty convincing is the Freeman video. If it's a hoax it's a damn good one.

Spoiler

And John Bindernagel's book is an excellent read. Dude is a legit wildlife biologist who considers the animal to be absolutely real.

Yes I'm familiar with the Freeman footage. I too spent a good amount of time finding everything I could about Sasquatch to try to get a fuller picture. People are scoffers though. I'm not saying I know for sure that Sasquatch is real but it seems to be one of the most credible cryptids in the book.

Take Jeff Meldrum for example. He actually receives a lot of heat for his view that the creature is real and he is a Full Professor of Anatomy and Anthropology and a Professor of the Department of Anthropology at Idaho State University. He has shown that some of the footprints found actually have a mid-tarsal break (many primates do) and dermal ridges for pete's sake.

 

[MusterX]

All ancient civilizations and even religions talk about that in theyre beginings they were visited by the Gods in some sort of chariots, they called them sun Gods or they who from heaven came to Earth.
Even the Egyptians stated that, in the begining, the first time or zep tepi like they called it , it was a time when Gods rulled the Earth.
Not to mention the Sumerian tablets and the Indian vedas.
I allready knew about Puma Punku , the stone of the pregnant woman in Baalbek, Machu Pichu , the elongated skulls , Sacsayhuaman , the yonaguni underwater ruins, forbidden archeology, etc .... there are many fascinating sites and all sorts of material about ancient civilizations that are really interesting , and ive allways been into to that.
Check out these 2 pictures :

Heliopolis Baalbek

quarry cut in Ollantaytambo

... fascinating stuff !!

The one that really got me was the discovery of the ancient ruins of Gobekli Tepe. Thought to be 12,000 years old, this site is thousands of years older than the pyramids.

When I was growing up in school they always taught us the first real civilizations were the Sumerians, Mesopotamians/Egyptians, but I think that has to be amazingly wrong. Have you ever heard of Graham Hancock? I love to listen to this guy talk and his work is valuable even if its not all right. Anyway, this video is a Joe Rogan podcast with both Graham Hancock and Randal Carlson where they talk about humanity being a race with amnesia. That basically the earth has been struck with great cataclysms in the past, multiple times, and has reset our progress. Basically that there are entire civilizations wholly forgotten to time.

This is long but an absolutely fascinating listen.

 

[BearGrounds]

Yes I'm familiar with the Freeman footage. I too spent a good amount of time finding everything I could about Sasquatch to try to get a fuller picture. People are scoffers though. I'm not saying I know for sure that Sasquatch is real but it seems to be one of the most credible cryptids in the book.

Take Jeff Meldrum for example. He actually receives a lot of heat for his view that the creature is real and he is a Full Professor of Anatomy and Anthropology and a Professor of the Department of Anthropology at Idaho State University. He has shown that some of the footprints found actually have a mid-tarsal break (many primates do) and dermal ridges for pete's sake.

When you take into account all the track evidence found, like that that of studied men like Meldrum, it becomes pretty difficult to remain in a position of absolute disbelief. Bindernagel's book does as great job analyzing much of the track evidence available. Some of the tracks Meldrum has, for instance, are "half-tracks" (it happens when the subject is perhaps leaning forward while climbing or running). This they believe indicates a mid foot flex, like that of the African great apes. A human's foot flexes farther forward.

It also covers stride length and how the sustained long stride, coupled with the track imprint anatomy, accompanying eyewitness testimony, seriously speaks of this animal truly existing out there. There was a report in 1851 Arkansas with a series of 12 to 14 foot leaps (each print measuring 13inches each) which would have been absurdly difficult to have hoaxed.

All in all there's been an incredible amount of prints found, some known to be hoaxed, of course, but so many so that it would be of incredible difficulty, bordering on impossible, for them all to have been hoaxed as a result of any sustained deception to be taking place. Add to that the eyewitness accounts and stories going back a seriously significant duration of time, when anyone scoffs at the possibility you can almost certainly be sure they haven't seriously looked into the phenomena at all.

 

[BearGrounds]

Also, gotta link the Meldrum JRE podcast since we're on SD

 

[MusterX]

When you take into account all the track evidence found, like that that of studied men like Meldrum, it becomes pretty difficult to remain in a position of absolute disbelief. Bindernagel's book does as great job analyzing much of the track evidence available. Some of the tracks Meldrum has, for instance, are "half-tracks" (it happens when the subject is perhaps leaning forward while climbing or running). This they believe indicates a mid foot flex, like that of the African great apes. A human's foot flexes farther forward.

It also covers stride length and how the sustained long stride, coupled with the track imprint anatomy, accompanying eyewitness testimony, seriously speaks of this animal truly existing out there. There was a report in 1851 Arkansas with a series of 12 to 14 foot leaps (each print measuring 13inches each) which would have been absurdly difficult to have hoaxed.

All in all there's been an incredible amount of prints found, some known to be hoaxed, of course, but so many so that it would be of incredible difficulty, bordering on impossible, for them all to have been hoaxed as a result of any sustained deception to be taking place. Add to that the eyewitness accounts and stories going back a seriously significant duration of time, when anyone scoffs at the possibility you can almost certainly be sure they haven't seriously looked into the phenomena at all.

Another cryptid, and perhaps the most likely to exist of them all, is called the Oreng Pendek. It lives in the remote forests of Sumatra. Its smaller than Bigfoot, between 30 and 60 inches tall, and is said to be bi-pedal. Its description is very creepy.

 

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The one that really got me was the discovery of the ancient ruins of Gobekli Tepe. Thought to be 12,000 years old, this site is thousands of years older than the pyramids.

When I was growing up in school they always taught us the first real civilizations were the Sumerians, Mesopotamians/Egyptians, but I think that has to be amazingly wrong. Have you ever heard of Graham Hancock? I love to listen to this guy talk and his work is valuable even if its not all right. Anyway, this video is a Joe Rogan podcast with both Graham Hancock and Randal Carlson where they talk about humanity being a race with amnesia. That basically the earth has been struck with great cataclysms in the past, multiple times, and has reset our progress. Basically that there are entire civilizations wholly forgotten to time.

This is long but an absolutely fascinating listen.

Yes ... i also knew about Gobekli Tepe and yes , i also know and really apreciate Graham Hancock´s work .... tbh i never bought one of his books, which is stupid of me , but ive allready seen all of his documentaries , speeches, interviews , you name it ... i literally check his website every single day to read the news.
According to some recent speeches that he made, apparently he is now convinced that the Gyza piramids were indeed built by the Egyptians , despite the fact that along with Robert Bauval , both putted forward the so called "orion correlation".
Allthough i dont totally agreed with that serving as "evidence" that the pyramids are much older then the time of the Egyptians , i still believe that it werent the Egyptians that built the Gyza piramids and that they are much older and served a completly diferent purpose then its common belief.
Work on the erosion of Sphinx as been studied by the geologist Robert Schoch whose opinion on the Sphinx erosion was sought by another great investigator John Anthony West.
It concludes that the erosion present indicates that at least the Sphinx predates the time of the Egyptians.
Zahi Hawass, former Egyptian minister of state for antiquities affairs and secretary-general of the Supreme Council of Antiquities, long time rival of Graham and extreme defender of the modern paradigm when asked if it would be possible if a more ancient civilization could have sculpted the Sphinx, Hawass replied: "Of course it is not possible for one reason …. No single artifact, no single inscription, or pottery, or anything has been found until now, in any place to predate the Egyptian civilization more than 5,000 years ago.
Thats why the discovering of Gobekli Tepi is even more important ... and i might even add the yonaguni underwater ruins.
Which i think is pretty cool

 

[MusterX]

Yes ... i also knew about Gobekli Tepe and yes , i also know and really apreciate Graham Hancock´s work .... tbh i never bought one of his books, which is stupid of me , but ive allready seen all of his documentaries , speeches, interviews , you name it ... i literally check his website every single day to read the news.
According to some recent speeches that he made, apparently he is now convinced that the Gyza piramids were indeed built by the Egyptians , despite the fact that along with Robert Bauval , both putted forward the so called "orion correlation".
Allthough i dont totally agreed with that serving as "evidence" that the pyramids are much older then the time of the Egyptians , i still believe that it werent the Egyptians that built the Gyza piramids and that they are much older and served a completly diferent purpose then its common belief.
Work on the erosion of Sphinx as been studied by the geologist Robert Schoch whose opinion on the Sphinx erosion was sought by another great investigator John Anthony West.
It concludes that the erosion present indicates that at least the Sphinx predates the time of the Egyptians.
Zahi Hawass, former Egyptian minister of state for antiquities affairs and secretary-general of the Supreme Council of Antiquities, long time rival of Graham and extreme defender of the modern paradigm when asked if it would be possible if a more ancient civilization could have sculpted the Sphinx, Hawass replied: "Of course it is not possible for one reason …. No single artifact, no single inscription, or pottery, or anything has been found until now, in any place to predate the Egyptian civilization more than 5,000 years ago.
Thats why the discovering of Gobekli Tepi is even more important ... and i might even add the yonaguni underwater ruins.
Which i think is pretty cool

Have you seen any of Magical Egypt? I believe West was involved with it. Rogan always talks about these videos but I haven't watched them yet. Here is the first episode.

 

[MusterX]

Also, gotta link the Meldrum JRE podcast since we're on SD

I'm listening now, thanks for this one.

 

[FadeLess]

Have you seen any of Magical Egypt? I believe West was involved with it. Rogan always talks about these videos but I haven't watched them yet. Here is the first episode.

I know , im talking 2 much
Thanks for the vídeo , havent watched those yet!
Another guy that has caught my interest is Michael Tellinger ... if you are not familiar with his work i respectfully suggest you to check it out.
His website .... http://michaeltellinger.com/
... and you can also find various of his speeches on youtube.
Cheers

 

[MusterX]

I know , im talking 2 much
Thanks for the vídeo , havent watched those yet!
Another guy that has caught my interest is Michael Tellinger ... if you are not familiar with his work i respectfully suggest you to check it out.
His website .... http://michaeltellinger.com/
... and you can also find various of his speeches on youtube.
Cheers

I'm going through his site, I like it. I'm going to link his website in the OP. I found almost immediately where he was saying that the Sumerians and Egyptians inherited their knowledge from civilizations thousands of years before themselves which was what I was talking about in that last post. We have forgotten much of our history, just lost to time.

 

[MusterX]

This thread needs John Brzenk. He has been as dominant in his sport as any athlete in a major sport. He is also known as the "Giant Killer" for taking on larger opponents in weight classes above his and winning. In my opinion he is the greatest armwrestler that has ever lived. The movie Over the Top with Sylvester Stallone was based on John Brzenk.

Brzenk is also known as "The Perfect Storm" and "The Golden Boy." Guiness Book of World Records named him the greatest arm wrestler of all time. John is now 51 years old and way past his prime. In fact, he is downright old. Guess what, he's still going. He competes in the Ultimate Armwrestling League, is the current UAL Right-Handed Champion (Heavyweight Division). He is also the current World Armwrestling League right handed Heavyweight champion.

John Brzenk

 

[Fuzzybabyducks]

This is one of the craziest things I've come across. It is called the Kowloon Walled City. 33,000 people lived in a modern day labyrinth that was destroyed 2 decades ago. It looks like Barter Town from Mad Max, or something straight out of Bladerunner. Just hit begin exploring then click on the clickable squares for some stories but also at the bottom of the page click the other tabs like explore.

I don't know if this is the most horrible or most awesome place I've ever seen. It is remarkable to say the least.

http://projects.wsj.com/kwc/#chapter=intro

I think I watched a doc on this place .. forgot what it was called

 

[Amerikuracana]

Lost me at "making of Shining."

 

[Amerikuracana]

This thread needs John Brzenk. He has been as dominant in his sport as any athlete in a major sport. He is also known as the "Giant Killer" for taking on larger opponents in weight classes above his and winning. In my opinion he is the greatest armwrestler that has ever lived. The movie Over the Top with Sylvester Stallone was based on John Brzenk.

Brzenk is also known as "The Perfect Storm" and "The Golden Boy." Guiness Book of World Records named him the greatest arm wrestler of all time. John is now 51 years old and way past his prime. In fact, he is downright old. Guess what, he's still going. He competes in the Ultimate Armwrestling League, is the current UAL Right-Handed Champion (Heavyweight Division). He is also the current World Armwrestling League right handed Heavyweight champion.

John Brzenk

Makes me wish I was really good at something. Good for him. Bad dude.

 

[MusterX]

I think I watched a doc on this place .. forgot what it was called

That website linked for the city is awesome, did you check that out? I didn't even know a place like that existed.