The War Room Lounge 158: In Ben Shapiro's Bed, No One Can Hear You Scream

[Andy Capp]

WARNING: AN EMOTIONAL ASS LOVE LETTER TO THE War Room.

I might check Railsea. If I may ask what books would you say define your youth? (this extends to all the loungers. @Sketch @Limbo Pete @irish_thug @Andy Capp and @HereticBD I really would like to know this from y'all)

I read a lot, but I find that page turning anticipation of fiction kind of lost from modern literature. It's honestly one of the saddest parts of the internet age, a words worth is almost meaningless now. It's so sad to me. In my studies I came across a letter that was almost hard to believe. (I got the book off the shelf for this)

Of course.. it's Zinn, in reference to free educated black children in the North about slavery in the south. This is a quote from a free black girl, knowing what was happening down south. Just listen, a seven year old, I swear we've lost the meaning of speech and it's going to take incredible writers to bring it back, or at least aspiring writers to suffer for it, anyway her words..

" Dear schoolmates, we are going next summer to buy a farm and to work part of the day and to study the other part if we live to see it and come home part of the day to see our mothers and sisters and cousins if we got any and see our kind folks and to be good boys and when we get a man to get the poor slaves from bondage. And I am sorrow to hear that the boat... went down with 200 poor slaves from up the river. Oh how sorrow I am to hear that. It grieves my heart so that I could faint in one minute."

Brilliant isn't it? "Grieves my heart so", the weight of it. I used to get beat up by a cunty stepmother for over ten years, who couldn't read, because big words made me sound like a "f*ggot" but yet. I know this sounds rather pathetic, but I want you guys to know. I've had a really rough go of it since this started. I worked really hard, I quit living a life on the road, I lived my life my way, found a wonderful job, have a beautiful apartment, even, for the first time in my life had savings. Those were drained so quickly, I saved my money with the unemployment, first time in my life I ever took a handout, after all I'm a man who survived only on bus fare and doing a show three states over for a slice of pizza, because that was my life. I finally found a home.What a live I've lead, but God did it feel good to have a home. Not a friends couch in a random state headlining a show I spent $100 to get drooling against the window of a greyhound watchin Texas turn to Colorado. A real home. A beautiful decorated apartment. The last of my savings is gone now but I'm not too afraid. Truth be told I'm not good at being an adult, I was stoked to finally learn, even though I'm fucking thirty two (an age I never thought I'd reach mind you)

Anyway, I just want to let you guys know that you've been my saving grace, and I really want to write this dumbass millenial manifesto thing, but I'm glad I know y'all, and you guys inspire the fuck outt of me. Sorry for another long winded post but... yeah. I'm a bit lost right now and it makes me very upset.

I expect this will sound trite, but I know the feeling you're expressing in the last part. I was in a similar position about 10 or so years ago. Had a nice apartment, settled in after living there a few years, wasn't ever planning to leave, had a decent job, then everything went to shit (long story) and suddenly I was broke and unemployed and had to move and ditch half my stuff. But keep your head up, man. This is discouraging but discouraging shit happens. Life is long and there's going to be plenty of occasions where it will go the other way, supremely encouraging shit will happen. I firmly believe anyone whose life is full of woe just didn't get to live long enough. I was at my lowest low but I was determined not to give up on life. Now, I am married coming up on 8 years and I live in a beautiful downtown condo a 5 minute walk from everywhere and I mainly have only the issues in my own mind to deal with.

[Edit:] Now, to answer your question, I devoured mysteries and horror but what really got me where I lived was science fiction and fantasy. The Foundation Series and Robot series by Asimov, the Dune books by Herbert, The Lord of the Rings, of course, all really influenced my thinking but there was lots of other stuff too, Ray Bradbury, Harlan Ellison, et al. Piers Anthony and Spider Robinson helped me embrace my love for puns, for example. I never read much Heinlein and I regret that. And it was the 70's so of course there was the spy shit. My father was big on the subject so I naturally read all his John le Carre and it helped a lot with making my world view more realistic and less idealized. Truth being stranger than fiction, I wonder if you've heard of the Kim Philby story, just out of curiosity.

But all that was when I was young. I have to admit I'm not all that well read, especially for my age. There are multiple reasons for that but it's mostly because instead I've read a lot of non-fiction online, scholarly articles and the like but I really haven't read many books in the last 20 years. I should change that.

 

[Lead]

This has been super helpful for me but it's not really taught a lot. There's guard retention, and guard recomposing, that stuff gets taught a lot. But there's a brief moment after it's too late to recompose or retain, but before the guy is taking you to smeshville that can make your life easier. I'd like to find more content on it but there's not so much.

Yea, one thing I find with newer guys is some think as soon as someone passes their knee line, they just should lay down cause that’s what side control looks like to them. The ones who get staying on this side get a lot farther in open mats. I had the one guy who was relentless at making sure I couldn’t flatten him out. There’s other avenues though is the are turned in. You can sprawl around to their exposed back and go for a kimura/ armbar or just pull them back and try to get hooks in. They just have to be mindful of it and turn during the switch. Either way, getting out is a bitch and I’m much happier if I can always keep at least one leg in for half guard

 

[Gandhi]

@Lead @Gandhi

My coach annihilated my toe this morning. We were working takedowns and his knee landed on my toe during the penetration step for a double leg.

I now have a license to butt scoot.

Embrace the scoot!

 

[PolishHeadlock2]

Lol can't wait for these tapes to leak

 

[sickc0d3r]

WARNING: AN EMOTIONAL ASS LOVE LETTER TO THE War Room.

I might check Railsea. If I may ask what books would you say define your youth? (this extends to all the loungers. @Sketch @Limbo Pete @irish_thug @Andy Capp and @HereticBD I really would like to know this from y'all)

I read a lot, but I find that page turning anticipation of fiction kind of lost from modern literature. It's honestly one of the saddest parts of the internet age, a words worth is almost meaningless now. It's so sad to me. In my studies I came across a letter that was almost hard to believe. (I got the book off the shelf for this)

Of course.. it's Zinn, in reference to free educated black children in the North about slavery in the south. This is a quote from a free black girl, knowing what was happening down south. Just listen, a seven year old, I swear we've lost the meaning of speech and it's going to take incredible writers to bring it back, or at least aspiring writers to suffer for it, anyway her words..

" Dear schoolmates, we are going next summer to buy a farm and to work part of the day and to study the other part if we live to see it and come home part of the day to see our mothers and sisters and cousins if we got any and see our kind folks and to be good boys and when we get a man to get the poor slaves from bondage. And I am sorrow to hear that the boat... went down with 200 poor slaves from up the river. Oh how sorrow I am to hear that. It grieves my heart so that I could faint in one minute."

Brilliant isn't it? "Grieves my heart so", the weight of it. I used to get beat up by a cunty stepmother for over ten years, who couldn't read, because big words made me sound like a "f*ggot" but yet. I know this sounds rather pathetic, but I want you guys to know. I've had a really rough go of it since this started. I worked really hard, I quit living a life on the road, I lived my life my way, found a wonderful job, have a beautiful apartment, even, for the first time in my life had savings. Those were drained so quickly, I saved my money with the unemployment, first time in my life I ever took a handout, after all I'm a man who survived only on bus fare and doing a show three states over for a slice of pizza, because that was my life. I finally found a home.What a live I've lead, but God did it feel good to have a home. Not a friends couch in a random state headlining a show I spent $100 to get drooling against the window of a greyhound watchin Texas turn to Colorado. A real home. A beautiful decorated apartment. The last of my savings is gone now but I'm not too afraid. Truth be told I'm not good at being an adult, I was stoked to finally learn, even though I'm fucking thirty two (an age I never thought I'd reach mind you)

Anyway, I just want to let you guys know that you've been my saving grace, and I really want to write this dumbass millenial manifesto thing, but I'm glad I know y'all, and you guys inspire the fuck outt of me. Sorry for another long winded post but... yeah. I'm a bit lost right now and it makes me very upset.

My heavy reading phase was kicked off by my love for Savage Sword Of Conan comics, and turned into Every Conan Book Ever Written. All the Robert E Howards, and then the later stuff by Robert Jordan especially.
I also loved the Pierce Anthony Xanth series, and Bio Of A Space Tyrant.
Once I picked up my first Stephen King around age 14 or 15 I became hooked on horror. Probably read his stuff, Straub, Koontz, and McCammon exclusively for a good 5 or 6 years. Except for the odd PKD or William Gibson here and there.

 

[Gandhi]

Injuries suck. I rolled my ankle a few months back and it took forever to feel like I could put a lot of weight on it rolling. I pretty much did side control escapes that whole time cause I couldn’t do other positions.

Bet you're pretty good at escaping side control though. Actually being able to actively escape from side control is pretty big game. Jiu jitsu sucks if you can't escape.

Yea, one thing I find with newer guys is some think as soon as someone passes their knee line, they just should lay down cause that’s what side control looks like to them. The ones who get staying on this side get a lot farther in open mats. I had the one guy who was relentless at making sure I couldn’t flatten him out. There’s other avenues though is the are turned in. You can sprawl around to their exposed back and go for a kimura/ armbar or just pull them back and try to get hooks in. They just have to be mindful of it and turn during the switch. Either way, getting out is a bitch and I’m much happier if I can always keep at least one leg in for half guard

That gurgle video is pretty solid. I watched the whole Danaheur SM escape set and, while it has a lot of good stuff, it did not cover this at all. I then watched the blue belt accelerator course By Whittier and a version of this improved my SM defense over night. Only when on his right side he lies the right arm along his head like a pillow. Stops top guy from using that arm to pull u flat. He also tucks the left arm between his legs to avoid Kimora ‘or darces. Also if top guy goes north south be ready to follow him with your bottom leg and come up onto your knees. Great defense imo.

 

[PolishHeadlock2]

Interesting thread on herd immunity for COVID

 

[Andy Capp]

My heavy reading phase was kicked off by my love for Savage Sword Of Conan comics, and turned into Every Conan Book Ever Written. All the Robert E Howards, and then the later stuff by Robert Jordan especially.
I also loved the Pierce Anthony Xanth series, and Bio Of A Space Tyrant.
Once I picked up my first Stephen King around age 14 or 15 I became hooked on horror. Probably read his stuff, Straub, Koontz, and McCammon exclusively for a good 5 or 6 years. Except for the odd PKD or William Gibson here and there.

How about Incarnations of Immortality? That was another Piers Anthony series that I really enjoyed. Funny, I read a lot of horror in my teens but it didn't translate into me becoming a huge horror movie consumer. I was a sucker for Stephen King novel adaptations although half of them sucked, and other book adaptations like Omen and the Exorcist, but I never got into more modern horror that relies on a lot of gore. Suspense is where it's at for me.

 

[Prokofievian]

That gurgle video is pretty solid. I watched the whole Danaheur SM escape set and, while it has a lot of good stuff, it did not cover this at all. I then watched the blue belt accelerator course By Whittier and a version of this improved my SM defense over night. Only when on his right side he lies the right arm along his head like a pillow. Stops top guy from using that arm to pull u flat. He also tucks the left arm between his legs to avoid Kimora ‘or darces. Also if top guy goes north south be ready to follow him with your bottom leg and come up onto your knees. Great defense imo.

 

[Gandhi]

My heavy reading phase was kicked off by my love for Savage Sword Of Conan comics, and turned into Every Conan Book Ever Written. All the Robert E Howards, and then the later stuff by Robert Jordan especially.
I also loved the Pierce Anthony Xanth series, and Bio Of A Space Tyrant.
Once I picked up my first Stephen King around age 14 or 15 I became hooked on horror. Probably read his stuff, Straub, Koontz, and McCammon exclusively for a good 5 or 6 years. Except for the odd PKD or William Gibson here and there.

I picked up BIO of Space Tyrant when I was like 13 on a camping trip. It had the authors name up top bigger than the title. When you said his name I went straight to the title. Was enthralled at the time.

I still remember the refugee space pod and the successive waves of pirates that kept getting worse and worse (rape, meaner rape, murder rape) then the military contract marriages as he progressed through the military ranks. I think I only get three books in.

When I remember it now it’s seems like it was sensationalist dreck, but I could be wrong.

 

[Gandhi]

Not sure if this is a reference to how long it takes to get through a Danaher series or because he is doing the new stuff. Guess it’s the first lol.

 

[Gregolian]

Don't have much motivation for work today. Grumble.

 

[Zebra Cheeks]

Don't have much motivation for work today. Grumble.

Monday’s, I tell you what

 

[Andy Capp]

Well, color me shocked. Peter McKay didn't win the Conservative Party leadership. I really thought it was a foregone conclusion but they went with Erin O'Toole, Veteran's Affairs minister under Harper. In case you're wondering, he looks like Carl Rove and seems just as trustworthy.

To me, that's a good thing. I think if Trudeau steps aside and installs Freeland as PM, the Liberals will be assured of victory in the next election. McKay might have been able to give her a run for her money. This guy, O'Toole, already lost a leadership bid.

 

[Prokofievian]

Not sure if this is a reference to how long it takes to get through a Danaher series or because he is doing the new stuff. Guess it’s the first lol.

That guy is so fucking long winded, I'm not sure I've listened to him explain anything fully.

 

[Higus]

 

[Prokofievian]

Well, color me shocked. Peter McKay didn't win the Conservative Party leadership. I really thought it was a foregone conclusion but they went with Erin O'Toole, Veteran's Affairs minister under Harper. In case you're wondering, he looks like Carl Rove and seems just as trustworthy.

To me, that's a good thing. I think if Trudeau steps aside and installs Freeland as PM, the Liberals will be assured of victory in the next election. McKay might have been able to give her a run for her money. This guy, O'Toole, already lost a leadership bid.

Do you think Trudeau will step aside? What's the general zeitgeist back home? I'm just catching up with this WE charity scandal thing now. It honestly makes me a bit sick. It's just so cliche. Even our scandals suck. It's exactly what you imagine it is when you first hear of it. Gimme some pee pee tapes or a pizza parlor full of demons for cryin in the sink.

 

[Fawlty]

@Jack V Savage what is this nonsense about Fernando Tatis Jr. being criticized for hitting a grand slam on a 3-0 pitch when his team is leading? Relief pitcher then throws behind the next batter. Holy crap, what a childish complaint. Walks have consequences. I expect this in high school sports. Aren't these professionals?

 

[Andy Capp]

Do you think Trudeau will step aside? What's the general zeitgeist back home? I'm just catching up with this WE charity scandal thing now. It honestly makes me a bit sick. It's just so cliche. Even our scandals suck. It's exactly what you imagine it is when you first hear of it. Gimme some pee pee tapes or a pizza parlor full of demons for cryin in the sink.

I don't know if he will, but for sure it would be the best move to help assure a Liberal victory in the next election. Like Chretien, Trudeau has mostly been doing a good job but he can't keep his hand out of the cookie jar. A lot of people let it slide because they really wanted to like Chretien/Trudeau. Unlike Chretien, however, Trudeau appears to have a lot more people dead set on taking him down a peg due to their perception of him as smugly and hypocritically self-righteous. Lack of perspective about why people have an issue with black face meant a lot of immigrants voted for him in the last election with no fucks given and I think it's fair to say they were instrumental in his winning even a minority. I doubt they'll have the same reaction to this scandal.

By contrast, Freeland has been really successful and wholly without taint throughout the entire period Trudeau has been in power. Trudeau had huge amounts of good will coming in from how he was handling the COVID crisis until this scandal popped up. If he steps aside for Freeland, that goodwill will continue to accrue. Not so if he sticks around. I think the Liberals are likely to lose in a no-confidence vote and then in the general election if Trudeau insists on being a millstone around the neck of the party.

 

[Jack V Savage]

@Jack V Savage what is this nonsense about Fernando Tatis Jr. being criticized for hitting a grand slam on a 3-0 pitch when his team is leading? Relief pitcher then throws behind the next batter. Holy crap, what a childish complaint. Walks have consequences. I expect this in high school sports. Aren't these professionals?

I agree with you. Hitters normally take all the way on 3-0, and pitchers, knowing that, tend to just fire fastballs in the zone. And especially with a big lead, players are expected to be really conservative (stealing bases is also looked-down upon, for example). But fuck it. If someone doesn't want to follow those rules, I think it should be his choice. The comment by his manager seems to indicate that he wasn't specifically given the take sign and was just supposed to know (I'm sure he was aware of the convention but took it as a suggestion).