The Truth about Mr. Jones

[Poirierfan]

you don't have to make fake, appeasement complements, the video is complete stupidity. Let's just declare Aspinall the best and then use that as your foundation to explain why Jon Jones isn't the best because he won't fight the best? I can't really fault Aspinall for trying to earn that huge paycheck but it is pretty cowardly to be talking like a tough guy pretending you actually want to fight Jones while he is physically unable to fight.

Very similar to the reality you detail about Francis's lies about wanting to fight Jon. Francis has stated himself he was presented a contract to fight Jon Jones for a ton of money and he turned it down, which is fine. What is not fine is his dishonest at best claims that he wanted to fight Jones and will always regret not fight inghim while also blaming the UFC for why the fight didn't happen. The fight didn't happen because Ngannou wanted nothing to do with HW size Jones so he made up completely unmeetable demands like a position on the board of a public company, when Dana White was not even a board member, to use as his excuse.

Complete bullshit, just stop. I'm not even gonna try and refute what you've posted because you're so ill-informed it's comical.

@OldBoy91, these fucking guys in here, man, holy crappola.

 

[Cartiac]

Complete bullshit, just stop. I'm not even gonna try and refute what you've posted because you're so ill-informed it's comical.

@OldBoy91, these fucking guys in here, man, holy crappola.

sounds like someone's test levels might be close to 4.9 ng/dL

 

[EYEKICKFACES]

Zzzzz...

Crackers on a candle, who's house is it anyways?

 

[Like a fiddle]

good video, but still perpetuating this false narrative that Jones avoided frank for 3 years

Frank became champ March 2021
He signed to fight Ciryl October 2021
Fought Ciryl January 2022
Announced knee surgery, targeted return 2023
January 2023 he bounced

Frank is at least 50% responsible for that fight never happening. There was 6 months it could have been negotiated and signed but Frank fought a 10 fight kickboxer, nearly lost, then bounced before he had to fight Jon or Sergei/Tom.

Then Jones came and beat Ciryl like a red headed step child.

But at the end of the day, Jones could've fought at heavyweight anytime he wanted to. UFC being the clown show that it is, he could've jumped to the front of the line with an immediate title shot any time he wanted to...Which he finally did after several years of hype and bullshit. By 'coincidence', literally days after Francis parted ways with the UFC.

He didn't even try to hide jumping at the opportunity.

 

[icemun]

But at the end of the day, Jones could've fought at heavyweight anytime he wanted to. UFC being the clown show that it is, he could've jumped to the front of the line with an immediate title shot any time he wanted to...Which he finally did after several years of hype and bullshit. By 'coincidence', literally days after Francis parted ways with the UFC.

He didn't even try to hide jumping at the opportunity.

He tried

"Dana White reveals Jon Jones really did offer to fight for heavyweight title at UFC 196"

Dana White reveals Jon Jones really did offer to fight for heavyweight title at UFC 196

Good grief

www.sportsjoe.ie

Dana said "nope"

and lets not forget, big Frank QUIT MMA instead of taking the highest pay ever to fight Jones.

Ultimately doesnt really matter, hes the longest reigning champion ever and goat at this point.

 

[icemun]

Aspinall will eventually be the HW goat if he doesn't get injured, watch. It's pretty obvious he's elite while everyone else are just good imo. No one's ever even made it to the final bell with Tom, that's the reason people want to see Jones fight Tom, plus Tom's the interim champ as.well while Stipe is just a pointless fight.

Btw, there's even video of Jones being ask who's a HW coming up to watch out for, this was before Jones decided to move up to HW. Know what name Jon said? that's right, Tom Aspinall. Y'all are being bamboozled, Jon knows he ain't beating Tom.Aspiamll. He's trying to pull the wool over everyone's eyes by saying Stipe the greatest, it's all bullshit, Stipe ain't close to what he use to be.

yea yea yea
The same way Jones wasnt beating Gane or DC or Gus or Rampage Rashad rf Shogun or Pavovich

Todays great hope, tomorrows faded memory

 

[Poatan Power]

But at the end of the day, Jones could've fought at heavyweight anytime he wanted to. UFC being the clown show that it is, he could've jumped to the front of the line with an immediate title shot any time he wanted to...Which he finally did after several years of hype and bullshit. By 'coincidence', literally days after Francis parted ways with the UFC.

He didn't even try to hide jumping at the opportunity.

And isn't it funny that the only compelling fight at HW at the time was Jones/Francis and Francis turned down $8m to fight him? See? You can spin it both ways.

Obviously Jones wants to go straight to a title shot. He's the GOAT (arguably) and plenty of people go for champ-champ title shots jumping the line. He's done enough to earn that nod more than anyone else, similar to GSP and Conor. It's both a what you've done for the organization / will the fight sell issue. There's nothing wrong with Jones looking out for himself above others. Francis, too, by the way. Nothing wrong with bouncing when he did to get rich. But assigning 100% blame to either is ridiculous. They both played a part. It is hilarious to me that people who are admittedly Jones haters blame him for both ducking Francis as a challenger and ducking Tom as a champion. Nobody ever has any responsibility in it, only Jones, lol.

Again that's my problem with the video. You can identify Tom is the #1 contender and you want him to get the shot, but from Jones perspective, why would he? Stipe is a less risky fight and he can make millions and retire. Tom is a legitimate threat, even if I pick Jones over him. Then he has to survive that and THEN try to fight Stipe, avoid injury etc. when what? Stipe is 45? Makes no sense. The sensible thing for Jones (as an advocate for his career/health/legacy/etc.) is to fight and beat Stipe, and if healthy, fight Tom win or lose and go out on his shield either way. Jones is approaching 37 too, he isn't a young man. This is when the downhill turn occurs. Jones is also correct in pointing out that if he and Stipe want the fight, they've earned it. A combined idk, 20 fucking title defenses, the arguable GOAT in both divisions for the UFC and made the company tens of millions. This is the last chance for it to ever happen. He should fight Tom, it's the right thing to do. But if this Stipe fight is ever going to happen is has to happen NOW. And preferably before Jones got injured -- but at this point it's now or never and the fight will sell. Tom or his advocates crying that Tom earned an immediate title shot in comparison to Stipe/Jones earning a face off in the cage is an uphill battle. Tom can fight for the title after Stipe/Jones, Stipe/Jones can't happen in 2-3 years.

Also, in that video the whole "Jones fought bloated middleweights" once again was perpetuated. I wish I could find my original post, but literally all of Jones' opponents were LHW or HW champions or both in the major organizations (UFC/WEC/SF/PRIDE/Bellator/etc.) or at least competed the majority of their careers at LHW/HW. with only Chael, Lyoto and Rashad being MW competitors. Chael was a true MW, but Rashad/Lyoto switched classes due to age and injuries.

Ah, found it. Excuse the nerdiness.

[UFC LIGHT HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPION] Rampage Jackson: Fought at heavyweight both 1999-2000 and 2015 onward.

[UFC LIGHT HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPION] Lyoto Machida: Fought at heavyweight before LHW, then moved to LHW and won the title. He was then eviscerated by Jon Jones and to avoid Jon Jones he emasciated himself to get to middleweight. He returned to LHW when he left the UFC and didn't have to fight Jon Jones.

[UFC LIGHT HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPION, PRIDE MIDDLEWEIGHT (205LB) GRAND PRIX CHAMPION] Shogun Rua: Fought at 205 in PRIDE and won the title, fought in UFC at 205 and won the title, fought at Heavyweight in PRIDE in 2006.

[BELLATOR LIGHT HEAVYWEIGHT AND HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPION] Ryan Bader: fought Jones at 205, fought in Bellator at 205 and 265 and won the titles in both divisions.

[IFL LIGHT HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPION] Vladimir Matyushenko: Fought at HW from 1997-2001, fought for the UFC LHW title against Tito Ortiz.

[WEC HEAVYWEIGHT GRAND PRIX WINNER, ONEFC HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPION] Brandon Vera: Fought at heavyweight from 2002-2008, 2013-2022. Won multiple titles at heavyweight.

[UFC LIGHT HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPION] Rashad Evans: fought at heavyweight in 2005, emaciated himself to get to middleweight in his later years due to age, years after Jones dominated him.

[UFC LIGHT HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPION] Vitor Belfort: Fought at heavyweight 1997-2001, fought at middleweight and LHW throughout the rest of his career.

Chael Sonnen: Fought at MW, LHW and HW. Primarily MW.

[UFC LIGHT HEAVYWEIGHT AND HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPION] Daniel Cormier: Literally the champion of both divisions. Emaciated Cormier could wrestle at 185 when he was like 20, in juco wrestled at 197.

Alexander Gus: Fought at LHW and HW as of 2020. Not a champion of either division because Jon Jones existed.

OSP: Light heavyweight all of his career with recent heavyweight competition.

Ciryl Gane: Heavyweight

 

[VinceArch]

Crackers on a candle, who's house is it anyways?

Zzzzz...

 

[TheTribalQueef]

Not at all!
If Jon was somehow able to beat Francis, Aspinall or Pavlovic then I would be very impressed.
I really cant see it happen tho

Jon struggled way too much against Gus, Santos and even lost to Reyes
Even cans like Anthony Smith and OSP

He just beat Gane in less than a round I don't think Aspinall would beat him lol.

Jon won vs reyes

Jon finished Gus in their second fight with ease. He didn't struggle against Anthony Smith and he didn't struggle against OSP, it was just a boring fight that he dominated lol this is how I know you don't watch the right.

 

[TheTribalQueef]

Aspinall will eventually be the HW goat if he doesn't get injured, watch. It's pretty obvious he's elite while everyone else are just good imo. No one's ever even made it to the final bell with Tom, that's the reason people want to see Jones fight Tom, plus Tom's the interim champ as.well while Stipe is just a pointless fight.

Btw, there's even video of Jones being ask who's a HW coming up to watch out for, this was before Jones decided to move up to HW. Know what name Jon said? that's right, Tom Aspinall. Y'all are being bamboozled, Jon knows he ain't beating Tom.Aspiamll. He's trying to pull the wool over everyone's eyes by saying Stipe the greatest, it's all bullshit, Stipe ain't close to what he use to be.

Tom never fought anyone besides palvolvich and blades whom he blew out his knee trying to throw a kick. Lol.

 

[Yankee]

Idk if OP is more of a Jones hater or Aspinall eater. That video was a waste to watch of course Aspinall's own countrymen is gonna ride him hard for 15 mins to try to discredit arguable one of the GOATs that has earned the right to do whatever the fuck he wants till he retires in 1-2 fights. Aspinall can wait for his turn like the nobody that he is right now.

 

[Brca031]

I know it is 2024 and we are supposed to pretend gender and biology aren't real, but if you think someone with test levels that high is actually a girl of any age, I got some bad news for you bud. Anyone with 4.9ng/mL test levels pees standing up. That measurement is mid reference range for an adult male. I'm not judging you for the type of "girls" you are into but it would be insane even for the biggest of female bodybuilders taking heavy exogeneous testosterone to be at 490ng/dL levels.

You do understand the difference between ng/mL and ng/dL right?

what about his T/E ratio

 

[LostMyBlackBelt]

I was down at the New Amsterdam
Staring at this yellow-haired girl
Mr. Jones strikes up a conversation
With a black-haired flamenco dancer
You know she dances while his father plays guitar
She's suddenly beautiful
And we all want something beautiful
Man, I wish I was beautiful