The superfight went to Diaz

[Fiya]

These. A fight between one of the three greatest fighters of all time, and a guy who's never held a title in a major promotion, is not a superfight.

Your right strikeforce sucked, how dare the consider themselves a major promotion ever

 

[BenjaminDuffy]

Your right strikeforce sucked, how dare the consider themselves a major promotion ever

He won the Strikeforce title from Marius Zaromskis. His first two defenses were against Cyborg and Noons. That isn't major. That's a joke.

I already said it upthread, but the Daley fight was the only really impressive thing Diaz did in Strikeforce. He made good money there, and that's about it. Waste of his time, competitively.

 

[bat_country]

Or maybe GSP had more to lose than someone who was retired.

This. Nick has nothing to lose (outside of a few minutes he might not remember very well).

 

[YukisHeart]

When Nick was the Strikeforce welterweight champion a middle-of-the-pack guy at 185lbs said 'come up and fight me bro'

Thats just not how it works. If Mayhem told Georges to come meet him at 185 he would have gotten laughed at, rightly so.

If Georges' career was at a dead end and he hadn't won a fight since 2011, I'm sure that he, too, would have considered taking a big money bout with a 40 year-old, stanky legged Anderson.

 

[XamcX]

Who unilaterally decided that someone has to be a champion to book a 'superfight'

Two marquee names in the sport who would otherwise not meet in their own division is a superfight to me.

They're both coming off consecutive losses.
Both coming off long layoffs
Super fight?? Haha

 

[honzo]

It's a little bit of a different situation GSP was the champion so that does complicate things. In saying that though, they are different fighters with different mindsets regardless of the belt.
Diaz doesn't care about anything, GSP has an image and a legacy to uphold and is very worried about his health.

 

[HydralisK]

GSP was scared of losing and tainting his legacy, Nick just likes to fight big names he doesn't care

He didn't seem to have a problem "tainting" his legacy by getting a gifted decision and ducking a rematch.

 

[CatchOmega]

GSP had way more to lose taking that fight. I don't blame him for not taking it. Silva destroys both of them easily imo.

Diaz is willing to take any fight that pays him enough. He doesn't really care about his legacy or a championship of any sort. He's after that silva money.

 

[Fiya]

He won the Strikeforce title from Marius Zaromskis. His first two defenses were against Cyborg and Noons. That isn't major. That's a joke.

I already said it upthread, but the Daley fight was the only really impressive thing Diaz did in Strikeforce. He made good money there, and that's about it. Waste of his time, competitively.

I wouldn't call it a waste of time, he pretty much built his brand there

Regardless of who he got the belt from and who he defended against, strikeforce was pretty much the next best thing to the ufc

Edit* I really enjoyed cyborg vs diaz, fight had my standing the entire time, bit off topic

 

[riitzni]

They're both coming off consecutive losses.
Both coming off long layoffs
Super fight?? Haha

As much as I want to agree with Rjm, this. Superfight is generally reserved for current champs against each other.

 

[rjmbrd]

If Georges' career was at a dead end and he hadn't won a fight since 2011, I'm sure that he, too, would have considered taking a big money bout with a 40 year-old, stanky legged Anderson.

I have no idea what the context of your post is, or if you even meant to quote me. I was responding to 'Georges fought Mayhem, but Diaz would not' and simply pointed out that Georges fought Mayhem at 170lbs. He wanted Diaz to move up.

Roll back in this thread and note my post stating that Georges is not only the greatest welterweight of all time, but he left the sport with his brain intact and a multi, multimillionaire.

Don't let this blow your mind, but being a fan of Diaz does not automatically mean you are anti-Georges. Some fans of MMA are adults and don't see it all in binary.

 

[rjmbrd]

They're both coming off consecutive losses.
Both coming off long layoffs
Super fight?? Haha

It is a fair point, but in my mind Anderson Silva is a living legend in the sport and makes the grade in both massive PPV buys and legacy standing.

I have a hard time disqualifying him from being in a 'superfight' because he is no longer champion. When he fought Forrest it was considered a superfight despite coming off a summary TKO loss to Rashad.

Generally I think of a superfight in terms of two marquee fighters from different divisions being booked. Two marquee fighters who would otherwise not meet unless one or both moved weight, thus, making it a 'superfight' as opposed to something that would happen in the course of divisional rankings insisting the fight happen.

 

[shoenie22]

This to me is a super fight. Don't really care what anyone else thinks. In my mind it is. And yes Diaz has bigger balls than gsp but we already knew that.

 

[Fighter123]

I wouldn't call it a superfight, but it is a fight that Anderson will have no problems winning.

 

[Zeta Reticuli]

Supper

 

[phatron]

It is a fair point, but in my mind Anderson Silva is a living legend in the sport and makes the grade in both massive PPV buys and legacy standing.

I have a hard time disqualifying him from being in a 'superfight' because he is no longer champion. When he fought Forrest it was considered a superfight despite coming off a summary TKO loss to Rashad.

Generally I think of a superfight in terms of two marquee fighters from different divisions being booked. Two marquee fighters who would otherwise not meet unless one or both moved weight, thus, making it a 'superfight' as opposed to something that would happen in the course of divisional rankings insisting the fight happen.

I don't understand what peoples hesitation is to call it a superfight.

I agree with you.

Its gonna do way more ppv sales and garner way more interest than any ppv recently.....so being a champ doesn't mean shit according to recent buyrates.

To me its not about a belt, or just about switching weight classes. To me its about the aura, excitement, and anticipation leading up to it that makes it a super fight.

Anderson v James Irvin wasn't a superfight, Tito vs schlemenko wasn't a superfight, Vitor vs bones wasn't a superfight.....none of those fights had the aura about them that this fight does.

Its the combination of nicks willingness to step up, his quote worthy press conferences, and all the questions about andersons return and leg than make this a superfight in my eyes.

 

[Cosmahorio]

A super fight requires 2 super stars. Anderson is, Diaz is not.

I can't believe how much hype Diaz has. Hell, Bisping would whoop his arse.

 

[anthony stark]

Well, Diaz was the champ of Strikeforce, but I mean thats still not enough to call this a superfight considering how Diaz record in the UFC.

nick "7W-6L ufc record" diaz

 

[anthony stark]

Guys like Nick and BJ and a handful of others have the warrior mentality and wanted to test themselves at extreme levels. I applaud that and really its a big part of their attraction.

I don't think that should take away from Georges though. There is exactly zero shame in wanting to fight the toughest guys in your own division. I thought Hendricks clearly beat Georges and perhaps he wouldn't want to end his career on a controversial split decision, but thats another story.

The dude walked away from the sport a multimillionaire many times over with his brain still completely intact. He walked off as one of the top 3 draws in the history of the sport. Hard to cast doubt on that type of wildly successful career.

wow a reasonable thinking nick diaz fan. who knew someone like you good sir existed.

 

[Szwok]

Wouldn't really call Diaz/Silva a super fight. An awesome fight for sure, but not super fight.

2 legends from te sport collide, both former champs, 2 different weight classes and 2 very entertaining fighters...... how is this not a super fight?