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It's hilarious how naive the first Enterprise crew is, just bopping around with puppy exuberance, telling everyone where Earth is.
The original plan was the first season was actually suppose to take place on earth and orbit, building a learning about the ship. The network vetoed that.
 
Watching the Enterprise pilot Broken Bow.

It's a good 90 minutes of television.

The infamous decon scene with Tucker and T'pol is laughably gratuitous.

And Blalock's fake tits are disgusting.
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The show deserved more life.

John Billingsley is great as Phlox.
Broken Bow is one of the best Star Trek Pilots in my opinion. It got amazing ratings at the time aswell.
 
@Clippy

How old Trek handled border conflicts, politics, rebellion, gray areas, and poor decision making of the idealistic Federation higher ups without breaking the universe:



One of many great moments, love his rant at the end. DS9 bless

I see no difference. It was a metaphor for the easier lives we often live in the west vs. poorer areas of the world, and a veiled justification for being desperate enough to use dirty tactics in war. Pretty progressive at that time.
 
Watching the Enterprise pilot Broken Bow.

It's a good 90 minutes of television.

The infamous decon scene with Tucker and T'pol is laughably gratuitous.

And Blalock's fake tits are disgusting.
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The show deserved more life.

John Billingsley is great as Phlox.
One thing that pissed me off with that pilot was first contact with the Klingons wasn't consistent with the original series.
 
I see no difference. It was a metaphor for the easier lives we often live in the west vs. poorer areas of the world, and a veiled justification for being desperate enough to use dirty tactics in war. Pretty progressive at that time.
You don't see a difference between old Trek and new, and how they handle politics and other issues?
 
You don't see a difference between old Trek and new, and how they handle politics and other issues?
Very little difference between the example you gave and what I have seen in Picard. I tuned out early on Discovery and will not watch it again.
 
The original plan was the first season was actually suppose to take place on earth and orbit, building a learning about the ship. The network vetoed that.
It could've been killer with five unhurried seasons paid for up front. No need to shove a ratings-grab war to protect Earth into it.
 
Very little difference between the example you gave and what I have seen in Picard. I tuned out early on Discovery and will not watch it again.
I've only watched the first two episodes but I saw seen nothing remotely as thoughtful nor was the dialogue as good. The bit I did see was Picard looking meager, getting cussed at, and the adirmal saying 11 (14?) systems threatened to pull out if the Federation kept helping the romulans, not to mention I still don't understand why the romulans couldn't help themselves given that they had a vast and powerful empire that spanned many worlds.

If it got better in later episodes I wouldn't know, I tapped out after the second and just watch RLM reviews meow.
 
I've only watched the first two episodes but I saw seen nothing remotely as thoughtful nor was the dialogue as good.
I didn't say the overall production was better. I was just saying that the presence of political undertones wasn't much different.

The bit I did see was Picard looking meager, getting cussed at, and the adirmal saying 11 (14?) systems threatened to pull out if the Federation kept helping the romulans, not to mention I still don't understand why the romulans couldn't help themselves given that they had a vast and powerful empire that spanned many worlds.
Probably because all of those worlds were close enough to be adversely impacted by the super nova. A super nova's impact usually isn't limited to just its own solar system, and real estate is probably hard to come by in the galaxy.

If it got better in later episodes I wouldn't know, I tapped out after the second and just watch RLM reviews meow.
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I've only watched the first two episodes but I saw seen nothing remotely as thoughtful nor was the dialogue as good. The bit I did see was Picard looking meager, getting cussed at, and the adirmal saying 11 (14?) systems threatened to pull out if the Federation kept helping the romulans, not to mention I still don't understand why the romulans couldn't help themselves given that they had a vast and powerful empire that spanned many worlds.

If it got better in later episodes I wouldn't know, I tapped out after the second and just watch RLM reviews meow.
I don't understand how people bash a show, they are not even watching? The last episode was excellent. Same thing happened with discovery, they watched the first free episodes on CBS and based there opinions on that, without really giving the show a chance.
 
I don't understand how people bash a show, they are not even watching? The last episode was excellent. Same thing happened with discovery, they watched the first free episodes on CBS and based there opinions on that, without really giving the show a chance.
Discovery is a crap production. Don't compare the two.
 
I don't understand how people bash a show, they are not even watching? The last episode was excellent. Same thing happened with discovery, they watched the first free episodes on CBS and based there opinions on that, without really giving the show a chance.
Fair, though I've given a lot of shows a chance after a rocky start. Picard, for me, went from decent with some questionable stuff in the first episode to straight off a cliff and many people who share my tastes have said it doesn't get any better. I've gotten enough info from listening to reviews that it doesn't sound like my cuppa tea, pardon the pun. 7/11 for example, even just seeing ads I can tell she's basically a different character. I could be wrong here but I'm old enough that I can usually tell when I'm gonna be able to enjoy something.

I'm trying not to post so much here because you and a couple other people like the show and I don't wanna keep being debbie downer, lol, it's just that it is The Star Trek thread.

I didn't say the overall production was better. I was just saying that the presence of political undertones wasn't much different.


Probably because all of those worlds were close enough to be adversely impacted by the super nova. A super nova's impact usually isn't limited to just its own solar system, and real estate is probably hard to come by in the galaxy.


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I don't know the specifics of a super nova nor exactly how big the romulan empire was, just that it spans thousands of light years. Plus, I think it's the show's job to explain specifically how it affected the empire (which I didn't see before I tapped out). Then there's also the fact that ST is very science based and even present science says that you can see a supernova coming a long time before it happens. If they wanna say someone caused it to go supernova that's fine, I just haven't heard anything to suggest that's the case, and they'd need to hint at that very early to avoid breaking suspension of disbelief.

To be clear, I'm not some purist, there's bad and cheesy moments in all of Trek and things to nitpick, I just felt like I was being hit over the head trying to watch the show
 
Seriously, there is no thread about this doggy doo?

 
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So Jeri Ryan is 52? She's holding up decently.
 
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