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Well, they do have replicators. Maybe for security reasons they just replicate them like they're pieces of paper.


I really appreciate the tone of this post. I feel that in the past, we (as in Star Trek fans) took canon as a given, and had fun thinking about how what we saw fits into canon / can be explained in-universe. Nowadays it seems like everybody is very eager to point out inconsistencies in canon. I am not saying that with respect to the original post from @JonesBones here, it's just a more general observation.
 
Well, they do have replicators. Maybe for security reasons they just replicate them like they're pieces of paper.

They also have limited transporter credits. Replication costs resources. I guess your response makes sense though.
 
They also have limited transporter credits. Replication costs resources. I guess your response makes sense though.
In the future, there are no monetary issues though, so I was always curious about the resources needed to replicate everything.
 
In the future, there are no monetary issues though, so I was always curious about the resources needed to replicate everything.
I was watching the TNG episode where chief Obrien and Keiko get married, and Data and Worf were at the replicator looking for gifts. Got me thinking, how much meaning would a gift mean, if you could literally make one at anytime for free. Would you be insulted to receive a replicated gift rather than something made from hand or from a unique place.
 
I was watching the TNG episode where chief Obrien and Keiko get married, and Data and Worf were at the replicator looking for gifts. Got me thinking, how much meaning would a gift mean, if you could literally make one at anytime for free. Would you be insulted to receive a replicated gift rather than something made from hand or from a unique place.


Even today, I usually buy gifts instead of making them. It is why I usually add a gift card. Availability and resources aren't really an issue unless it is a gift for some major occasion.

The gesture might mean less, but I think the amount of thought one puts in would become more important.
 
Even today, I usually buy gifts instead of making them. It is why I usually add a gift card. Availability and resources aren't really an issue unless it is a gift for some major occasion.

The gesture might mean less, but I think the amount of thought one puts in would become more important.
But it would be different when there is no monetary value to it. Would stuff be appreciated as much when It has no monetary worth

It also got me thinking of DS9. I wonder how the Federation crew got money. It seems like many of the services and products on the station, had to be paid for. Where do they get that latinum?
 
But it would be different when there is no monetary value to it. Would stuff be appreciated as much when It has no monetary worth

It also got me thinking of DS9. I wonder how the Federation crew got money. It seems like many of the services and products on the station, had to be paid for. Where do they get that latinum?

Well 1) the no money thing isn't necessarily federation-wide, and 2) I guess they must get an allowance, dealing with other species
 
Started to watch DS9. On episode 5. It's a much better, more realistic portrayal of actual people and other creatures living together in space. They aren't restricted by Roddenberrys rules, so they have more room to write better stories.

The characters themselves aren't as memorable as TNG crew yet, though.
 
Interview: Jonathan Frakes Talks “Ambitious” Picard Show And ‘Star Trek: Discovery’ Growing Its Beard

| APRIL 15, 2019 | BY: ANTHONY PASCALE 17 COMMENTS SO FAR

Earlier this week we posted the first part of our extended exclusive interview with Star Trek: The Next Generation veteran Jonathan Frakes, focusing on directing last Thursday’s episode of The Orville. In the second (of three) parts of the interview, Frakes talks about his work on Star Trek: Discovery and the upcoming Picard show, featuring Sir Patrick Stewart.

Excited to work on ambitious Picard show
You said you were working on the Picard show, can you say what episode or episodes?

I’ve been booked for they call the “second block,” which is episodes 3 and 4.

Hanelle Culpepper is booked to direct the first two…

Yeah, they are doing it in blocks. There are going to be ten episodes, with five blocks … She is about to start shooting, and then I start prepping after she starts shooting for a couple of days. I am so looking forward to it, I can’t tell ya.

Are the blocks for logistic reasons or are there five mini-arcs?

No, I read the first two and it is not that. It is a ten-episode movie, as Patrick put it one time. I think it has to do with amortization. It is a very ambitious approach to television, in the first season.

Obviously, we can’t get into spoilers, but how do you feel fans will feel about the show and how it fit with TNG and carrying on the legacy however many years later?

Eighteen years later. I think the fans are going to be thrilled and excited and surprised. I have had the privilege of reading the first couple of episodes and I have spent some time with Patrick who is so engaged [laughs] Sorry. It’s wonderful. It’s smart. I’m excited about it. He is obviously more excited. His announcing of it at Las Vegas—which I believe was his idea—was very smart. You know he is 78, and he is going to be carrying the show on his shoulders, his considerable shoulders.

I’m excited for him and personally, I feel so blessed to back. It’s so ironic that I spent so many years trying to expand where I was working and I was lucky enough to get onto other types of shows. The directing has been a mitzvah for me—to learn another craft. And now I am deeply ensconced in the world I was in 31 years ago—and I’ve got to say—incredibly grateful for it, between The Orville, and Discovery and Picard. And hopefully the Empress Georgiou show.


Jonathan Frakes with Sir Patrick Stewart at Calgary Expo in 2017 (photo: Calgary Sun)

Why Discovery has grown the beard
Have you already started talking about working on the third season of Discovery?

Yes. I’m booked for episode three and another one later in the season.

Do you feel in the second season, that Discovery has grown the beard?

Oh, excellent question. I do. And beautifully phrased I might add. There are few people who understand the importance in the Urban Dictionary of Riker’s Beard. I have had to explain it to some people and I am so proud of it. I think Discovery has done it and I think a lot of has to do—like on our show, we didn’t get there until the third season, even though I grew the beard—the settling in of both sides of the camera: the writing and the actors … The show feels to me like it is very much on the tracks now and running with real strength.

One of the things that has been incredibly successful is how complicated Burnham’s backstory and history is, and continues to reveal. A lot of it is Sonequa [Martin-Green]’s brilliance in seeing glimmers of it. That character is so complex and so complicated and so damaged and so intriguing and so intelligent, that has made that show for me. The casting of Sonequa to head the show was genius
 
Interview: Jonathan Frakes Talks “Ambitious” Picard Show And ‘Star Trek: Discovery’ Growing Its Beard

| APRIL 15, 2019 | BY: ANTHONY PASCALE 17 COMMENTS SO FAR

Earlier this week we posted the first part of our extended exclusive interview with Star Trek: The Next Generation veteran Jonathan Frakes, focusing on directing last Thursday’s episode of The Orville. In the second (of three) parts of the interview, Frakes talks about his work on Star Trek: Discovery and the upcoming Picard show, featuring Sir Patrick Stewart.

Excited to work on ambitious Picard show
You said you were working on the Picard show, can you say what episode or episodes?

I’ve been booked for they call the “second block,” which is episodes 3 and 4.

Hanelle Culpepper is booked to direct the first two…

Yeah, they are doing it in blocks. There are going to be ten episodes, with five blocks … She is about to start shooting, and then I start prepping after she starts shooting for a couple of days. I am so looking forward to it, I can’t tell ya.

Are the blocks for logistic reasons or are there five mini-arcs?

No, I read the first two and it is not that. It is a ten-episode movie, as Patrick put it one time. I think it has to do with amortization. It is a very ambitious approach to television, in the first season.

Obviously, we can’t get into spoilers, but how do you feel fans will feel about the show and how it fit with TNG and carrying on the legacy however many years later?

Eighteen years later. I think the fans are going to be thrilled and excited and surprised. I have had the privilege of reading the first couple of episodes and I have spent some time with Patrick who is so engaged [laughs] Sorry. It’s wonderful. It’s smart. I’m excited about it. He is obviously more excited. His announcing of it at Las Vegas—which I believe was his idea—was very smart. You know he is 78, and he is going to be carrying the show on his shoulders, his considerable shoulders.

I’m excited for him and personally, I feel so blessed to back. It’s so ironic that I spent so many years trying to expand where I was working and I was lucky enough to get onto other types of shows. The directing has been a mitzvah for me—to learn another craft. And now I am deeply ensconced in the world I was in 31 years ago—and I’ve got to say—incredibly grateful for it, between The Orville, and Discovery and Picard. And hopefully the Empress Georgiou show.


Jonathan Frakes with Sir Patrick Stewart at Calgary Expo in 2017 (photo: Calgary Sun)

Why Discovery has grown the beard
Have you already started talking about working on the third season of Discovery?

Yes. I’m booked for episode three and another one later in the season.

Do you feel in the second season, that Discovery has grown the beard?

Oh, excellent question. I do. And beautifully phrased I might add. There are few people who understand the importance in the Urban Dictionary of Riker’s Beard. I have had to explain it to some people and I am so proud of it. I think Discovery has done it and I think a lot of has to do—like on our show, we didn’t get there until the third season, even though I grew the beard—the settling in of both sides of the camera: the writing and the actors … The show feels to me like it is very much on the tracks now and running with real strength.

One of the things that has been incredibly successful is how complicated Burnham’s backstory and history is, and continues to reveal. A lot of it is Sonequa [Martin-Green]’s brilliance in seeing glimmers of it. That character is so complex and so complicated and so damaged and so intriguing and so intelligent, that has made that show for me. The casting of Sonequa to head the show was genius


Somehow I am probably more excited for the world building implications of the Picard show than the show itself.

I am a bit fearful that they will only show small parts of what has happened in the interim and focus on the Picard microcosm.
 
Somehow I am probably more excited for the world building implications of the Picard show than the show itself.

I am a bit fearful that they will only show small parts of what has happened in the interim and focus on the Picard microcosm.
By the way, Picard started filming yesterday!

Kinda Intresting that each director is being given a 2 hour block to film. I'm pretty curious what a TV director actually gets paid. I read an interview with Frakes, where he said each episode was basically a 6 to 8 week commitment, from pre production, to filming, to post .
 
Ok looked it up, the base pay for a union PGA director is $46,000 per one hour episode. That is just a base salary, so more experience the number could go up quite a bit.
 
By the way, Picard started filming yesterday!

Kinda Intresting that each director is being given a 2 hour block to film. I'm pretty curious what a TV director actually gets paid. I read an interview with Frakes, where he said each episode was basically a 6 to 8 week commitment, from pre production, to filming, to post .

I have no source for this, so this is straight pooma and might be totally off. But personally, I cannot imagine that someone like Frakes would cost less than, say, a partner of some consulting firm per day. That would place him at, say, 5000 dollars or about 150-200k for an eight week episode commitment. It's probably a bit too high, but in any case, it should be worth it financially for him for sure.
 
Ok looked it up, the base pay for a union PGA director is $46,000 per one hour episode. That is just a base salary, so more experience the number could go up quite a bit.

Ha, didn't see that. I don't think Frakes would be a unionized director?
 
Ha, didn't see that. I don't think Frakes would be a unionized director?
They are pretty much all unionized in Hollywood. Writers guild, Screen actors guild, Producer guild of America, ect...

That's why it can be a pretty big deal for an actor or writer to finally get into the guilds. You'll earn more money, and the ever vital health insurance and pensions.
http://film.ca.gov/production/associations-guilds/
 
3 more castmembers announced for Picard

CBS All Access' upcoming Jean-Luc Picard Star Trek series has three more to beam aboard. Alison Pill, Harry Treadaway, and Isa Briones are joining the cast as series regulars.

They join previously announced cast members Santiago Cabrera, Michelle Hurd, and Evan Evagora, as well as Sir Patrick Stewart, who will reprise his iconic role as Jean-Luc Picard.

Alison Pill recently completed filming for Alex Garland's upcoming FX series Devs and was in 2018's Oscar-nominated film Vice. Her previous television credits include American Horror Story: Cult, The Family, The Newsroom, In Treatment, and The Book of Daniel. She has also starred in numerous films including Miss Sloane, Hail, Caesar!, Snowpiercer, Goon, Scott Pilgrim vs. the World, and Dan in Real Life. She gained critical acclaim for her role in the Tony-nominated play, Three Tall Women, and has numerous theatrical credits.

Harry Treadaway can be seen in the upcoming fourth season of Netflix's renowned series The Crown and before that starred opposite Brendan Gleeson in David E. Kelley's series Mr. Mercedes. He also played Victor Frankenstein in the Showtime series Penny Dreadful. His film credits include Gringo, opposite Joel Edgerton, Charlize Theron, and David Oyelowo, and The Lone Ranger with Johnny Depp and Armie Hammer.

Isa Briones earned acclaim recently as the youngest member of the Hamilton national tour. She can also be seen on television in FX's American Crime Story: Versace and on the big screen in 2010's Takers with Matt Dillon.

After playing the iconic role for seven seasons of Star Trek: The Next Generation and in four feature films, Sir Patrick Stewart will depict his famous character in the next chapter of his life.

The series will air exclusively on CBS All Access in the United States and will be distributed concurrently internationally by CBS Studios International. Stay tuned to CBS.com for future news on the untitled Jean-Luc Picard Star Trek series.
 
About midway through the first season of DS9. It's definitely a better written show than TNG.

I notice that attempted murder isn't that big of a deal though. There are plenty of times when someone tries to kill a main character, and they are forgiven lol
 
Rewatching Voyager.

Like the episode where they find the 2 Ferengi that went through the Barzan wormhole in TNG
And they ruled a planet and shaped it according the rules of aquisition.
 
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