The Simpsons™ Destroyed By PC Goons. #ApuToo

[Jack V Savage]

And in turn, it's totally out of the realm of possibility for you to believe he's full of shit.

I do so love these little talks we have, Jack.

I didn't say it was out of the realm of possibility that he's full of shit. I tend to assume that people are not full of shit unless I have reason to think they are, but it is possible. The fanatically dogmatic one here is you--you've been acting like you're completely certain that he's putting on an act.

 

[nac386]

No its not. You're the most SJW poster in this forum. 99% of your posts are about race, unfortunately they only seem to extend to one political party. I would respect it more if you were consistent.

Lol. This is more nonsense.

 

[ultramanhyata]

When your characters are so out of touch, isn't it time to can the show?

Says the guy clinging to his CK avatar...

 

[chubbman]

When did stereotypes stop being funny.

 

[panamaican]

But it's been like 30 years. Do you just see it as a coincidence that now in the ultra PC everyone is an offended culture of the past few years is when he comes out with his brave new moral stance?

It was a go-to way to mock Indians in the 90's, everyone knows that. Why now? His conscience, really?
Why do people stick up for these Hollywood hypocrites that clearly do some of this stuff only out for publicity and going along with the prevailing winds and new Hollywood causes?

I didn't watch the Colbert interview clip or whenever he mentioned this, is the sheep audience giving him the nice applause that his brave new stance deserves? I saw a glowing article on Yahoo about it. What a good guy, 30 years later at the most convenient time to do this.

I think you also stuck for George Clooney and his pathetic extremely delayed excuse/talking points about knowing nothing about Harvey(or the parties with Italian PM and 15 yr old hookers he attended) as some brave stance.

Do I see it as a coincidence that now that upset people are more vocal that the subject of their complaints has stated a public response to them? No it's not a coincidence. That doesn't make it disingenuous either.

 

[Law Talkin’ Guy]

Next thing will be a bunch of DREAMERS tweeting outrage about the Bumblebee Man.

 

[superpunch]

nm

 

[HomerThompson]

Hank is free to feel however he wants. I think Apu was a great character, if you look at all of his characteristics from the show. Sure he was a stereotype in some ways(Indian Qwick-e-mart owner with a heavy accent), but he was always portrayed as a good human being.

Also, the show introduced many Americans to Indian religion, and culture, and I would argue in a positive way.

However, I'm also sure kids were called Apu, and made fun of. Certainly they would've been made fun of anyway, but Hank has a right to feel bad that his creation was used to bully people.

The real pussies here, once again, are the Alt-Right morons who can't trip over each other fast enough to be outraged that someone is different than them. Whether it be in beliefs, religion, or skin tone.

 

[panamaican]

He had 30 years to realise whether or not the character was an overly negative portrayal. Every indian I know celebrates the Apu stereotype, same goes for other cultures made fun of on the Simpsons.

As I said to someone else - how does the public opinion tell you anything about his private opinion? That to me makes zero sense.

30 years ago, he originated the voice and the tag line. Why would he feel badly then. As the years progress, society's opinion on the character changes. He is aware of that. His perception of the character changes. 30 years later, his opinion on the character could be very different from it was when he first voiced it. His personal experiences might have driven that.

That it comes in response to public statements isn't in the least bit strange. Only a truly narrow minded individual wouldn't see their position on something change as a result of public feedback.

Everyone's positions evolve over time. I can think of 2-3 positions that I hold right now (not related to politics) that have changed as a result of conversations with people more directly impacted on the subject than I am.

As an attorney, my theory on a case constantly evolves as a I learn new information and more parties become involved. So the idea that someone would no longer support something they previously supported as a result of public opinion isn't in the least bit strange. It's stranger, to me, to have people whose opinions never change even in the light of new, relevant, information.

 

[Culombo]

Indian People : We find the character offensive.

Non Indian People: We are offended that you find the character offensive.

everybody's offended by something .. ban all media .. ban any type of art .. ban creativity .. just ban everything to be safe

 

[Seano]

Next thing will be a bunch of DREAMERS tweeting outrage about the Bumblebee Man.

 

[elfeliz]

"Destroyed The Simpsons" lol... Simpsons haven't been good since Season 9

 

[jeffbeesdat]

Indian People : We find the character offensive.

Non Indian People: We are offended that you find the character offensive.

TBF... The couple of articles i have seen on it cite twitter outrage from professional sjw’s of the non Indian variety.

 

[HomerThompson]

https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/25/entertainment/hank-azaria-apu/index.html

This is #1 Bullshit. Hank Azaria is about to leave the role of Apu because of PC backlash.

"The idea that anybody, young or old, past or present was bullied or teased based on the character of Apu, it just really makes me sad," Azaria said. "It was certainly not my intention. I wanted to spread laughter and joy with this character and the idea that it's brought pain and suffering in any way, that it was used to marginalize people, it's upsetting."

Godamnit.

*PC Thugs

 

[S-dot]

Do I see it as a coincidence that now that upset people are more vocal that the subject of their complaints has stated a public response to them? No it's not a coincidence. That doesn't make it disingenuous either.

It doesn’t make it disingenuous but it also doesn’t make it right. Its easy to hear an emotional plea and change your position because of it but that doesn’t mean you’re moving in the right direction. I’m not saying he’s lying or that he doesn’t have the right to do whatever he wants. regardless of his reasons, he’s making a mistake.

 

[Final Rehab]

Yeah when I saw this story on yahoo I thought "Sherdog thread in 3..2..1..". Took several more minutes than I expected but not too many.

I for one think Indian people should never be stereotyped for the sake of laughs

Also, I'm playing a game ITT where I read posts without letting myself see the poster and guessing who the poster is. I'm doing very well.

 

[panamaican]

It doesn’t make it disingenuous but it also doesn’t make it right. Its easy to hear an emotional plea and change your position because of it but that doesn’t mean you’re moving in the right direction. I’m not saying he’s lying or that he doesn’t have the right to do whatever he wants. regardless of his reasons, he’s making a mistake.

It's not right to respond to an emotional plea and change your position because of it?

Moving in the right direction is to hear an emotional plea and ignore it?

If that is what you're saying I certainly can't agree with that. If that's not what you're saying, you're going to have to clarify it for me.

 

[Breakitdown]

In a perfect world, anybody offended by a cartoon character such as this would be arrested.

Would be a wonderful test, show somebody an episode and simply ask if they are offended. Arrest from there. What a wonderful state of affairs that would make for.

 

[HunterSdVa29]

can any celebrity have balls?

'i'm sorry for if people were marginalized' should in reality be 'man up, quit being a baby'

 

[S-dot]

It's not right to respond to an emotional plea and change your position because of it?

Moving in the right direction is to hear an emotional plea and ignore it?

If that is what you're saying I certainly can't agree with that. If that's not what you're saying, you're going to have to clarify it for me.

It’s part of what I’m not but not entirely, my bad on the clarity I’m working and chasing my son around the house and posting on sherdog...too much going on.

My point is that emotional pleas in and of themselves work but they aren’t always backed by righteousness and they don’t always point you in the direction of the solution. If my son cries because I don’t let him play with a fork he pulled out of a drawer, it doesn’t mean that I should appease him by letting him play with the fork.

People complaining about Apu may need to be told that they are aiming in the wrong direction rather than acquiesced to. I haven’t watched the simpsons in 15 years so maybe they’ve done something with Apu I’m not aware of, but if the complaint is he’s a stereotype so stop it, I would say the proper response is no, I’m sorry if it bothers you because it isn’t meant to, rather than hanks response.