Bagwork The Side Kick has the highest force output on the bag

Trabaho said:
Air don't hit back. Nah I don't wanna edge you. But stop posting this lame stuff. At least post a whole heavy bag round or shadow box round. If not sparring. Whatever I'm kinda done.
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And now you understand my friend...
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Trabaho said:
Air doesn´t hit me or you. But I been talking major shit in this thread. Guess I need to work again soon.
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Air doesn't hit you and bags don't hit back.

All can be fixed by joining a gym. Otherwise youre this guy posting Ninja videos.
 
Intermission said:
This isn't the fighting forum.
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No it's the stand up forum and it's not the 80s anymore.

We went through the period where this kind of thing was proven to be pointless by actually seeing these martial arts in practice.

This whole thread is people talking about fighting each other whilst hitting air and kicking bags. @Trabaho and I have spoken about this before. Just pointing out to him how silly it looks with people talking about fighting whilst posting air kicks and heavy bag work. It's the definition of majoring in the minors. Any athlete worth their time does shadow boxing and bag work as supplemental work and wouldn't even think to put it up as proof of what they can do.
 
maximus__ said:
No it's the stand up forum and it's not the 80s anymore.

We went through the period where this kind of thing was proven to be pointless by actually seeing these martial arts in practice.

This whole thread is people talking about fighting each other whilst hitting air and kicking bags. @Trabaho and I have spoken about this before. Just pointing out to him how silly it looks with people talking about fighting whilst posting air kicks and heavy bag work. It's the definition of majoring in the minors. Any athlete worth their time does shadow boxing and bag work as supplemental work and wouldn't even think to put it up as proof of what they can do.
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I havent said anything about fighting or proof of what I can do.
 
maximus__ said:
It's the definition of majoring in the minors. Any athlete worth their time does shadow boxing and bag work as supplemental work and wouldn't even think to put it up as proof of what they can do.
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Thats just your narrow subjective perspective. plenty of other people train for fitness, development of technique and self growth.

And displays of various techniques is quite common.
 
maximus__ said:
No it's the stand up forum and it's not the 80s anymore.

We went through the period where this kind of thing was proven to be pointless by actually seeing these martial arts in practice.

This whole thread is people talking about fighting each other whilst hitting air and kicking bags. @Trabaho and I have spoken about this before. Just pointing out to him how silly it looks with people talking about fighting whilst posting air kicks and heavy bag work. It's the definition of majoring in the minors. Any athlete worth their time does shadow boxing and bag work as supplemental work and wouldn't even think to put it up as proof of what they can do.
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Hence I said I'm talking shit however shadow boxing and bag work are very valid if you can tell what you see. Just him posting his one punch karate vid I already know he is a novice to boxing and done some tkd traditional martial arts stuff mc dojoish.

Shadow box and bag are core. Lifting weights is suplemental. Skill building and specific conditioning vs athleticisim. I mean weights are great too
 
Intermission said:
I havent said anything about fighting or proof of what I can do.
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Hmm... Yeah. Maybe you could slip in a question mark kick on me. If you were 50% in Amateur Muay Thai after 15 fights I would bet on myself.

Yes you have.

Youre playing pretend that what you are doing displays any sort of actual practical martial arts technique.
 
maximus__ said:
Hmm... Yeah. Maybe you could slip in a question mark kick on me. If you were 50% in Amateur Muay Thai after 15 fights I would bet on myself.

Yes you have.

Youre playing pretend that what you are doing displays any sort of actual practical martial arts technique.
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never said I would taekwondo him. I can also box
 
Royce Greasy said:
I studied TKD in Canada and it was red belt then black stripe then double black stripe then BB, it's irrelevant what TKD ranks are in other parts of the world, during my time training in the late 90's early 2000's there was an American from Florida who trained with us for a month I spoke to him about many things one of which was ranks and he told me that there was a deputy BB rank lol to which we all thought was hilarious. To take it further at the BJJ school I trained in there was a pink belt after purple and I've heard that's not the norm but this particular school had it.
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Thanks, just seemed a bit weird. I've been training TKD since the 80's and that was the first I heard of a double black strip. Guess I shouldn't be surprised, lots of clubs make their own ranking system.
 
Intermission said:
I did ask a Karate instructor what level he thought it was at even though it's a little bit different mechanics in TKD and he said 2nd or 3 rd Dan for his style.
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Dude, you need to stop. I can tell you from a TKD perspective the kicks are around a green belt level. There is nothing wrong with being at a green belt level. Lots of time to improve. Make goals and set benchmarks and dedicate yourself to those goals.

There seems to be a lot of inconstancy in your instructors and styles. Remember "I fear not the man who practiced 10,000 kicks once, but I fear the man who has practice one kick 10,000 times".
 
Who executed these studies? What kind of subjects did they use? I'd be interested to see averages per kick with trained fighters.
 
Ginja_Ninja said:
Dude, you need to stop. I can tell you from a TKD perspective the kicks are around a green belt level. There is nothing wrong with being at a green belt level. Lots of time to improve. Make goals and set benchmarks and dedicate yourself to those goals.

There seems to be a lot of inconstancy in your instructors and styles. Remember "I fear not the man who practiced 10,000 kicks once, but I fear the man who has practice one kick 10,000 times".
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That's what I did , I trained the roundhouse kick for four years. No other kick. Sorry it didnt meet your standards.
 
Ginja_Ninja said:
Thanks, just seemed a bit weird. I've been training TKD since the 80's and that was the first I heard of a double black strip. Guess I shouldn't be surprised, lots of clubs make their own ranking system.
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Double black stripe is the probationary period before receiving a 1st Dan, that is the explanation from google AI.
 
Royce Greasy said:
Double black stripe is the probationary period before receiving a 1st Dan, that is the explanation from google AI.
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That works, every club has little differences. Are you still training and going to test for black?

I've trained with a lot of guys across Canada, where have you trained out of?
 
Ginja_Ninja said:
That works, every club has little differences. Are you still training and going to test for black?

I've trained with a lot of guys across Canada, where have you trained out of?
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I'm 40 now and began training at Cheung's TKD out of Brampton, Ontario in late 98 and stopped in early 2003, the club no longer exists but when it did they had like 4 locations I believe in the greater Toronto area the club was founded in the 70's if you look into it I would check at Grand master Ken Cheung he was the head instructor/owner and was also in the Canadian sports hall of fame he has BB's if I'm not mistaken in Judo, TKD, Karate and some other styles he was also from the Chinese army as well.


I put up a crazy story on my Taekwondo is disrespected thread about being involved in basically a bareknuckle fight at one of the testings, the club was very rough giving he(Cheung) was from the Chinese army the sparring was full-contact for sure people got injured and sometimes rarely KO'd, there was this after hours sparring only time I don't want to call it a class and about 30 people would line up you spar for 3 minutes and move down the line guys went all out. One time there was this white belt new guy who was very impressionable and decided it was a good idea to attend this sparring session I warned him against it, he went anyways and I stuck around to watch from the viewing area and he got the ever loving shit kicked out of him, he walked out of there bleeding and battered shortly after he quit.


After the encounter I had at the testing with this ITF guy throwing sucker punches and trying to KO me I was done, had enough of that and I think Cheung was testing me because he liked me and another student and used to tell both of us if you can get you spinning heel just slightly faster people are gonna be in fear. It really turned me off that some green belt ITF guy can just come in throw sucker punches and not using any TKD during our sparring for the testing, I don't have a problem with punches being thrown as long as it's made clear before the match that incident turned me off.
 
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