Bagwork The Side Kick has the highest force output on the bag

[Royce Greasy]

Yeah.. why? do you know about King of the streets

There is a video of a Jujitsu guy that beat a guy with a firearm, in argentina i think

Sure there's outliers absolutely but you can be sure a guy with a firearm wins 9 times out of 10, jiu jitsu is good if you can get hands on someone quick for sure.


Crazy video just watched he reacted fast also the bystanders were smart to grad the gun.

 

[noc]

Yes I know of King of the streets especially the Polish guy getting KO'd by the English savage, that's ok they're grown men but someone will eventually get killed, not really a fan of it.

I think street beefs is as realistic as far as fighting goes for the average person that has some experience in martial arts or combat sports, UFC is elite combat athletes so it's unrealistic to use that as an example of how 1 vs 1 fights will unfold between average trained people, street beefs to me is a better medium of how those sorts of individuals react in street fights.

UFC is just entertaiment, i wasnt refering to that. King of the streets is more serious than Street beefs

But in saying im interested in anything goes... just to train for that, to see what is the best method for that kind of fight. That's what was important for Bruce Lee
Eyes, groin and knees are primary targets for him

 

[Royce Greasy]

UFC is just entertained, i wasnt refering to that. King of the streets is more serious than Street beefs

But in saying im interested in anything goes... just to train for that

Oh ya King of the streets is extreme they're like trying to be real life Bloodsport more power to them, so you want to fight in King of the streets?

 

[noc]

Oh ya King of the streets is extreme they're like trying to be real life Bloodsport more power to them, so you want to fight in King of the streets?

No, im saying... i care about a real fight, in a real fight anything goes. That's what Martial Arts want actually, to win using anything, to be the number one style, is just that they don't train correctly

So many styles in China.. because they tried to come out with something to beat the other styles. That's the essence, the real tradition

 

[Royce Greasy]

No, im saying... i care about a real fight, in a real fight anything goes. That's what Martial Arts want actually, to win using anything, to be the number one style, is just that they don't train correctly

So many styles in China.. because they tried to come out with something to beat the other styles. That's the essence, the real tradition

What do you train? and do you full contact spar? I get it unfortunately alot of people are pussies and cowards and won't honor that nowadays.

 

[noc]

What do you train? and do you full contact spar? I get it unfortunately alot of people are pussies and cowards and won't honor that nowadays.

KIckboxing was my style. But im trying to train a bit of the real Jeet Kune Do, the late stage JKD (stuff from the 70s that most JKD instructors don't know about)

Honor what?

 

[Royce Greasy]

KIckboxing was my style. But im trying to train a bit of the real Jeet Kune Do, the late stage JKD (stuff from the 70s that most JKD instructors don't know about)

Honor what?

If you like JKD then check out the NHB fight between George Carson vs Jay Russell in IFC.

I was referring to street fights people nowadays have no doubt.

 

[noc]

If you like JKD then check out the NHB fight between George Carson vs Jay Russell in IFC.

I was referring to street fights people nowadays have no doubt.

That was probably somebody from JKD Concepts, that's not real JKD, is something invented by Inosanto

There is still street fights

 

[Royce Greasy]

That was probably somebody from JKD Concepts, that's not real JKD, is something invented by Inosanto

There is still street fights

Sorry meant to say people on the streets have honor not doubt lol.

What's the difference between JKD concepts and real JKD, I know who Dan Inosanto is Lee's best student.

Street fights are a gamble for the reasons I mentioned already.

 

[noc]

Sorry meant to say people on the streets have honor not doubt lol.

What's the difference between JKD concepts and real JKD, I know who Dan Inosanto is Lee's best student.

Street fights are a gamble for the reasons I mentioned already.

JKD Concepts is like MMA, took anything you like from everywhere. Original JKD has his own techniques

Some people needs a beatdown, better to avoid bad places. I recommend to everybody to walk with a knife, just to use it in certain situations

 

[noc]

Inosanto is not his best student, a lot of things he could not do, he himself said that

 

[Royce Greasy]

Inosanto is not his best student, a lot of things he could not do, he himself said that

Wasn't he the first student of Lee's when he opened his first school in California. I was thinking about the movie Dragon that came out in 93 I think I'm gonna watch that again.

JKD is very interesting I don't know a whole lot about it except that the it was based on Lee's philosophy of taking the best things from other arts and using what works, I think Wing Chun is in it or elements of it the thing is there were a few guys early in NHB that trained it one being John Lober in the 90's who holds a win over Frank Shamrock but he also knew BJJ as well. The fight I mentioned earlier between Carson and Russell in it Carson comes from a team out of Waltham, Massachusetts that they say their base is JKD and in the fight don't know if you've saw it Carson used headbutts and a soccer kick to end the fight very brutal ending.

 

[noc]

Wasn't he the first student of Lee's when he opened his first school in California. I was thinking about the movie Dragon that came out in 93 I think I'm gonna watch that again.

JKD is very interesting I don't know a whole lot about it except that the it was based on Lee's philosophy of taking the best things from other arts and using what works, I think Wing Chun is in it or elements of it the thing is there were a few guys early in NHB that trained it one being John Lober in the 90's who holds a win over Frank Shamrock but he also knew BJJ as well. The fight I mentioned earlier between Carson and Russell in it Carson comes from a team out of Waltham, Massachusetts that they say their base is JKD and in the fight don't know if you've saw it Carson used headbutts and a soccer kick to end the fight very brutal ending.

He had Inosanto in Los angeles, his first school in California was in Oakland. The first one was in Seattle

The movie Dragon is a Bruceploitation movie with more budget

JKD is direct, simple and non classical. It follows those principles, so there is a lot of good techniques from the best styles that are not used, because they are not the most direct, or the most simple (for a bare nuckle anything goes fight)

 

[Royce Greasy]

He had Inosanto in Los angeles, his first school in California was in Oakland. The first one was in Seattle

The movie Dragon is a Bruceploitation movie with more budget

JKD is direct, simple and non classical. It follows those principles, so there is a lot of good techniques from the best styles that are not used, because they are not the most direct, or the most simple (for a bare nuckle anything goes fight)

Thanks, I didn't know the first school was in Seattle.

The movie I liked quite a bit if you say it's "Bruceploitation" I'll take your word for it, to me it came off as a Biopic, a lot about his early life and background story and life in the U.S as well as marriage and family life.

I thought that JKD has a lot of TMA elements though, I'm gonna research it because I had an interest in it before due to more than a few mma fighters having used it as their base in the NHB days it seems very effective.

 

[noc]

Thanks, I didn't know the first school was in Seattle.

The movie I liked quite a bit if you say it's "Bruceploitation" I'll take your word for it, to me it came off as a Biopic, a lot about his early life and background story and life in the U.S as well as marriage and family life.

I thought that JKD has a lot of TMA elements though, I'm gonna research it because I had an interest in it before due to more than a few mma fighters having used it as their base in the NHB days it seems very effective.

I liked the movie (and i like some scenes of the Bruceplotation movies) but he needs something more accurate. His real story is much more interesting, an art film is the only way to do it

JKD is the opposite of TMA, is modern. It can't be just your base, it has to be everything

 

[Royce Greasy]

I liked the movie (and i like some scenes of the Bruceplotation movies) but he needs something more accurate. His real story is much more interesting, an art film is the only way to do it

JKD is the opposite of TMA, is modern. It can't be just your base, it has to be everything

About JKD then the question would be are there any legit schools or are the ones that are listed just bullshido, I would think the latter considering the legit instructors are probably deceased or really old in 2025.

 

[noc]

About JKD then the question would be are there any legit schools or are the ones that are listed just bullshido, I would think the latter considering the legit instructors are probably deceased or really old in 2025.

The school of this guy



He has instructors and teach online
The others are the instructors of Ted wong, Ted was the last student
Wong and Carruthers are the most accurate to real JKD, the late stage. The others have the JKD from the 60s (like the guy who trained the actor for the Dragon movie) and then you have the Inosanto invention